Author Topic: Gareth Southgate: England's substitute teacher (Read 109431 times)

SwordInYourGut · « **Reply #400 on:** October 11, 2016, 08:34:27 pm »

For all of Henderson's abilities, turning on the ball simply isn't one of them. Klopp compensates for it by fielding Lallana and Wijnaldum next to him. Southgate is enhancing the problem by playing Dier next to him.

SamAteTheRedAcid · « **Reply #401 on:** October 11, 2016, 08:36:15 pm »

Quote from: SwordInYourGut on October 11, 2016, 08:34:27 pm

For all of Henderson's abilities, turning on the ball simply isn't one of them. Klopp compensates for it by fielding Lallana and Wijnaldum next to him. Southgate is enhancing the problem by playing Dier next to him.

Exactly. They're in no way a good fit as a midfield pair.

Hazell · « **Reply #402 on:** October 11, 2016, 08:37:27 pm »

Giggs should get the England job. If only to stop him being linked to every Premier League job that will become available and to stop hearing his monotonous voice on the tele.

RK7 · « **Reply #403 on:** October 11, 2016, 08:39:23 pm »

Quote from: TheShanklyGates on October 11, 2016, 08:04:37 pm

Walcott and Lingard offer absolutely nothing.

The same can be said for all of them. Really poor in the final third but the build up is predictable as well.

England must take more risks with their passing, every player takes 2/3/4 touches before passing the ball, there needs to be combinations which include fist time passes.

The players just don't seem to see the options, at this level they must see more than one or two passes and must have a picture of where their team mates are before they receive the ball.

cdav · « **Reply #404 on:** October 11, 2016, 08:41:42 pm »

Quote from: SwordInYourGut on October 11, 2016, 08:34:27 pm

For all of Henderson's abilities, turning on the ball simply isn't one of them. Klopp compensates for it by fielding Lallana and Wijnaldum next to him. Southgate is enhancing the problem by playing Dier next to him.

The problam they have is the lack of movement ahead of them, Walcott and Lingard just run in straight predictable lines in behind or to the ball meaning its easy to mark. It makes the passing slow and sideways as there is no ball through their midfield.

Statto Red · « **Reply #405 on:** October 11, 2016, 08:46:39 pm »

Should be 1-0 Slovenia, dreadful final ball.

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #406 on:** October 11, 2016, 08:47:43 pm »

Excellent save from Hart.

Statto Red · « **Reply #407 on:** October 11, 2016, 08:47:54 pm »

Nearly a comedy OG from the resulting corner.

Upinsmoke · « **Reply #408 on:** October 11, 2016, 08:48:00 pm »

What a save

smicer07 · « **Reply #409 on:** October 11, 2016, 08:48:02 pm »

Looked in that.

ShrewKop · « **Reply #410 on:** October 11, 2016, 08:48:15 pm »

Good save!

Statto Red · « **Reply #411 on:** October 11, 2016, 08:49:33 pm »

Hart the reason it's still 0-0.

Statto Red · « **Reply #412 on:** October 11, 2016, 08:51:30 pm »

At least there's another 40 minutes plus time to endure.

Solomon Grundy · « **Reply #413 on:** October 11, 2016, 08:53:42 pm »

Shit ball from Alli.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #414 on:** October 11, 2016, 08:53:50 pm »

Quote from: pyroparty on October 11, 2016, 08:32:34 pm

Lingaard is one of the worst I've ever seen. He wouldn't stand out in league one yet is playing for Man Utd and England. Luck right place/person right time goes a hell of a long way sometimes,

Lee Martin is fretting he may no longer be the shittest United player to score a Cup Final winner.

Red-Soldier · « **Reply #415 on:** October 11, 2016, 08:55:16 pm »

Quote from: Hazell on October 11, 2016, 08:37:27 pm

Giggs should get the England job. If only to stop him being linked to every Premier League job that will become available and to stop hearing his monotonous voice on the tele.

Surprised Savage hasn't linked him with it yet.

Upinsmoke · « **Reply #416 on:** October 11, 2016, 08:59:12 pm »

John stones isn't a defender.

CrasherKid79 · « **Reply #417 on:** October 11, 2016, 09:00:36 pm »

Here comes Rok Kronevator .... Great name

Solomon Grundy · « **Reply #418 on:** October 11, 2016, 09:00:50 pm »

Just get bloody Sturridge off.

Fiasco · « **Reply #419 on:** October 11, 2016, 09:01:25 pm »

What are the odds on Hoddle giving the man of the match award to a Spurs player?

ShrewKop · « **Reply #420 on:** October 11, 2016, 09:01:42 pm »

Quote from: CrasherKid79 on October 11, 2016, 09:00:36 pm

Here comes Rok Kronevator .... Great name

He sounds like a terrible pun. Watch him score the winner!

Statto Red · « **Reply #421 on:** October 11, 2016, 09:02:11 pm »

Andros Townsend on for Walcott.

Elzar · « **Reply #422 on:** October 11, 2016, 09:02:12 pm »

Townsend haha

Clayton Bigsby · « **Reply #423 on:** October 11, 2016, 09:02:30 pm »

Walcott needs to be given extended rest

CrasherKid79 · « **Reply #424 on:** October 11, 2016, 09:03:13 pm »

Quote from: ShrewKop on October 11, 2016, 09:01:42 pm

He sounds like a terrible pun. Watch him score the winner!

It's been the highlight of the game

Clayton Bigsby · « **Reply #425 on:** October 11, 2016, 09:03:40 pm »

Lingaard really is shit

Statto Red · « **Reply #426 on:** October 11, 2016, 09:04:27 pm »

Rooney will be coming on soon to spawn a winner.

John C · « **Reply #427 on:** October 11, 2016, 09:06:11 pm »

Quote from: ShrewKop on October 11, 2016, 08:21:57 pm

What has struck me the most is the lack of any personalities or likeable players in the England squad. Dier, Ali, Walcott, Lingard, Stones etc are all such generic moulded non relatable millionaire footballers who all look like they don't give a shit.

Yep I agree even if others might think personalities shouldn't matter. I'm not a typical Liverpool fan that despises England, I grew up wanting them to win and enthused over them right up to the 90's & 2000's despite some debacles. But now, I feel like I don't give 2 fucks, I feel distant from the group of players and I feel deprived of my boyhood desires by a cohort of pricks running round with some Liverpool lads.

Hazell · « **Reply #428 on:** October 11, 2016, 09:06:19 pm »

Quote from: Upinsmoke on October 11, 2016, 08:59:12 pm

John stones isn't a defender.

He makes 2/3 bad mistakes a game and is still made out to be the reincarnation of Gaetano Scirea. I wish I could be as bad at my job as him and get away with as much as he does.

SamAteTheRedAcid · « **Reply #429 on:** October 11, 2016, 09:07:47 pm »

Stones is awful, he'll get taken apart by any half decent striker.

redalways · « **Reply #430 on:** October 11, 2016, 09:09:19 pm »

Quote from: Statto Red on October 11, 2016, 09:04:27 pm

Rooney will be coming on soon to spawn a winner.

Go Wayne Go

Igor Tripod Biscan · « **Reply #431 on:** October 11, 2016, 09:09:21 pm »

Stones and Rose? - They'd be better off with the Stone Roses

They're all Charlatans is you ask me

They probably had a happy Monday but a lousy Tuesday

Definitely needs to be a new order for England

erm....Inspiral Carpets

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #432 on:** October 11, 2016, 09:09:50 pm »

Hart has absolutely bailed England out time and again.

OOS · « **Reply #433 on:** October 11, 2016, 09:10:13 pm »

Dier and Henderson are so boring

Statto Red · « **Reply #434 on:** October 11, 2016, 09:10:16 pm »

Hart saves Henderson, Slovenia would be a few goals up if it wasn't for Hart

Statto Red · « **Reply #435 on:** October 11, 2016, 09:10:48 pm »

Rooney about to come on.

rawcusk8 · « **Reply #436 on:** October 11, 2016, 09:11:11 pm »

Eeek Hendo almost made to pay for that bad backpass. Here comes Shrek

kaiser franz · « **Reply #437 on:** October 11, 2016, 09:11:45 pm »

You really dont looking good,should really find some real manager.

Upinsmoke · « **Reply #438 on:** October 11, 2016, 09:12:00 pm »

Quote from: Hazell on October 11, 2016, 09:06:19 pm

He makes 2/3 bad mistakes a game and is still made out to be the reincarnation of Gaetano Scirea. I wish I could be as bad at my job as him and get away with as much as he does.

Its the constant insistence on trying to play this idealistic footballing way at the cost of making fundamental errors. Like doing cruyff turns when he should knock it out for a throw, or letting the ball bounce because he wants to use his feet rather than his head. Even the best ball playing defenders ever out common sense before this kind of defending. Just ridiculous, he's not even that good on the ball, half the time it looks unnatural and ungainly

Hazell · « **Reply #439 on:** October 11, 2016, 09:12:09 pm »

Quote from: Statto Red on October 11, 2016, 09:10:48 pm

Rooney about to come on.

Oh joy. Maybe Tyldesley can finally start talking about him now