Topic: The Daily Mail

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Coutinho doing a bunch of exclusive articles for the Fail. What a dick.

[Statto Red]

Virgin West Coast to stop selling Daily Mail on it's trains.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42621425

[So… Howard Philips]

Coutinho doing a bunch of exclusive articles for the Fail. What a dick.

It could have been worse.

[Jshooters]

Virgin West Coast to stop selling Daily Mail on it's trains.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42621425

Saw this quote in the Independent version  :

A Virgin Trains spokesperson said: “We regularly review the products we have on sale for customers in the shop onboard our west coast trains and after listening to feedback from our people, we decided in November 2017 that we would no longer stock copies of the Daily Mail.

"When we stocked the Daily Mail onboard, we sold one copy for every four trains.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/virgin-trains-daily-mail-ban-sell-newspapers-beliefs-compatible-richard-branson-a8149786.html

[Rush 82]

Coutinho doing a bunch of exclusive articles for the Fail. What a dick.

Goes to show how out of touch his minders are with Liverpool fan political orientation.

Twats

[Lush is the best medicine...]

Goes to show how out of touch his minders are with Liverpool fan political orientation.

Twats

carra and Kenny had columns in that paper in the recent past

[SP]

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/jan/11/victoria-police-say-daily-mail-provoked-african-gang-flare-up-scuffle

Just the same down under.

[Kwaideng]

Oliver Holt today on about Holgate.

    Mason Holgate says he was racially abused by Roberto Firmino in FA Cup clash
    Since making the complaint, Holgate has suffered further abuse via social media
    Treatment of Holgate shows how black players are on trial when they speak out

'further abuse'  ...Come on man. We know you are Emily Bishop's lad like but this is not fuckin Corrie.

Two faced c*nt  praising LFC 'stance'.  Mancs are such snidey,devious, underhand, bitter fuckers.

[SP]

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/feb/16/center-parcs-pulls-daily-mail-ads-after-column-against-same-sex-parents

Story in the URL.

Did not realise Richard Littlejohn was still spouting bile. I had been blissfully ignorant of his output for years.

[TepidT2O]

Good on centre parks...

[So… Howard Philips]

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/feb/16/center-parcs-pulls-daily-mail-ads-after-column-against-same-sex-parents

Story in the URL.

Did not realise Richard Littlejohn was still spouting bile. I had been blissfully ignorant of his output for years.

Ignorance of Littlejohn's output is a positive by product of not reading the Mail.

[ManiacKop]

I get the outrage.. but like with racism it’s all about the era you were raised in. When Littlejohn was a kid being gay was illegal. It was a shameful act that could get you sacked from work or beaten or worse. It’s the same reason why racism is a massive issue in the states (more so than here) because for a lot of people they remember when blacks were segregated and with this ingrained memory and belief, I guess it’s hard to shift from that just to be told one day that actually blacks and gays are one of us now.

And I’m not bashing gays or blacks. Just trying to rationalise why people think the way they do. I think it’ll be a few more generations before everyone grows up, and becomes acceptant, of same sex marriage etc.

It’s wrong. But you only have to look at the comedy material on tv for these people in the 60s and 70s to see what was force fed them.

Regarding Tom and his partner, good luck to them. Who enjoyed a good nights sleep anyway?

[So… Howard Philips]

I'm the same age as Littlejohn but his views are more indicative of people in their eighties.

Having said that my Catholic mum, who was against gay marriage on doctrinal grounds, has accepted it as one of her friends sons recently got married. She refers to them as to "the gay boyfriends who got married"

If an 89 year old practising Catholic can be so accepting it makes it even worse that Littlejohn issues one of his narrow minded rants.

But I'm sure a lot of the Mail readers happily had a good old fume.

[ManiacKop]

I'm the same age as Littlejohn but his views are more indicative of people in their eighties.

Having said that my Catholic mum, who was against gay marriage on doctrinal grounds, has accepted it as one of her friends sons recently got married. She refers to them as to "the gay boyfriends who got married"

If an 89 year old practising Catholic can be so accepting it makes it even worse that Littlejohn issues one of his narrow minded rants.

But I'm sure a lot of the Mail readers happily had a good old fume.

If only everyone was as willing to change as your mum. Some people are just stuck in their ways.

[Libertine]

Got a notification on my phone from the Guardian last night - saw that it was something about Paul Dacre.

First time I think I've ever gottten something like this and thought "please be dead, please be dead".

Alas, only a resignation, but still good news. And good riddance to the racist, homophobic scumbag.

[HarryLabrador]

Got a notification on my phone from the Guardian last night - saw that it was something about Paul Dacre.

First time I think I've ever gottten something like this and thought "please be dead, please be dead".

Alas, only a resignation, but still good news. And good riddance to the racist, homophobic scumbag.

Thought as much. But good riddance; however, it's their MO and he'll only be replaced by another racist, homophobic scumbag as they know who their customers are - racist scumbags!!

[Lush is the best medicine...]

Thought as much. But good riddance; however, it's their MO and he'll only be replaced by another racist, homophobic scumbag as they know who their customers are - racist scumbags!!

yeah wouldn’t quite have the champers out just yet

[Trim0582]

I will be very interested to track if there is a noticeable Editorial shift. I mean it will always be right wing, but I wonder if it will occupy a more centrist position.

The main problem being it would require me reading it and that is a bridge too far.

It sounds somewhat preposterous to say, but something as simple as a resignation, could change the world-view of hundreds of thousands of people whom routinely read the Daily Mail.

[classycarra]

I will be very interested to track if there is a noticeable Editorial shift. I mean it will always be right wing, but I wonder if it will occupy a more centrist position.

The main problem being it would require me reading it and that is a bridge too far.

It sounds somewhat preposterous to say, but something as simple as a resignation, could change the world-view of hundreds of thousands of people whom routinely read the Daily Mail.

Isn't it the most read paper online in England? I wouldn't get our hopes up that it's going to shift on it's model

[Lush is the best medicine...]

Isn't it the most read paper online in England? I wouldn't get our hopes up that it's going to shift on it's model

the website isn’t as right wing as the paper,  plus a lot of the view are for the celeb shite

[classycarra]

the website isn’t as right wing as the paper,  plus a lot of the view are for the celeb shite

Oh yeah, I know. Always catch a glance of people on the celeb shite walking through our office. Still, don't expect the front pages to be different from the nasty shite any time soon

[Trim0582]

Isn't it the most read paper online in England?

I didn't realise that.

Well thanks for rapidly quashing my hopes,  it's not even lunchtime 

[classycarra]

I didn't realise that.

Well thanks for rapidly quashing my hopes,  it's not even lunchtime 

I aim to please depress!

[SP]

The owner Lord Rothermere is actually fairly liberal and far more Europhilic. His family have been pressing for him to tone down the Mail, because of the stigma of bigotry.

Dacre is the chief c*nt who moulded the paper in his image. His replacement will not have such clout.

Alastair Campbell’s Twitter is good at first the moment for disabusing the Mail’s grandiose self promotion.

[sms1986]

I didn't realise that.

Well thanks for rapidly quashing my hopes,  it's not even lunchtime 

It used to be, according to http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/sun-is-most-read-uk-newsbrand-and-dominates-on-mobile-but-guardian-top-on-desktop-new-readership-figures-show/ in 2017 -

Most read on mobile is the shitrag
Most read on tablets is the Daily Heil
Most read on desktop is the Guardian/Observer
Most read in print is the Metro (they use brand reach for this one, so I'm not sure how accurate the numbers are)

[Zeb]

Hassinator, some time ago, drew my attention to this read on the Mail. Andrew O'Hagan doesn't pull any punches about Dacre or the Mail under him. Just the first paragraph:

The word c*nt was invented by the Norwegians. At first the OED wouldn’t have it in its pages and even today the dictionary describes it as the most taboo word in English. Norsemen said kunta and the Danes said kunte, as did ninth-century Germans, though not, seemingly, in anger or spite. Apparently, the first known use of the word in English was in 1230, when an Oxford street was named Gropecunt Lane. Paul Dacre, that nice man who edits the Daily Mail, has become famous in recent times for ‘double-cunting’: a colleague, usually male, will be ticked off via a thunderous, compound deployment of the Old Frisian. ‘You call that a good cunting headline, you c*nt?’ might be a typical start to the afternoon. ‘Dacre would call us a “load of c*nts”,’ the former Mail crime reporter Tim Miles told Adrian Addison, ‘or a “shower of c*nts”. It was always “c*nt this” and “c*nt that”. He did like the word c*nt.’ And yet, in the natural way of things, over time the editor was to grope for other words. According to one source, ‘he would drop words such as Schadenfreude and hubris into conversations without, apparently, fully understanding their meaning.’ He came to show a weakness for phrases such as bien pensant, sine qua non and au contraire. Every day it seems was a growth day for baby Dacre as he crawled towards full suburban manhood. ‘Imagine the joy of putting together 96 pages from nothing!’ he said on Desert Island Discs, before choosing a Bing Crosby number called ‘That’s What Life Is All About’, written by his father.

[Nessy76]

Dacre has been promoted, he's not gone anywhere. We just have to hope that something really horrible happens to him.

[So… Howard Philips]

Thought as much. But good riddance; however, it's their MO and he'll only be replaced by another racist, homophobic scumbag as they know who their customers are - racist scumbags!!

I had the misfortune to read a copy the other day.

It is at fully bizarre paper. It's obsessed with class. It had a story about a Charterhouse alumni, white, upper class who'd been acquitted of thrusting his hand around a women's arse and towards a vagina.

He could understand, despite his £38k a year education (which the paper took great delight in extolling, complete with pictures of the college grounds) why he was charged with sexual assault and not just plain assault! They probably didn't cover the education of lady bits.

Anyway there was shock and horror at the oiks in the police and CPS for having the audacity to prosecute.

I'm waiting for the next acquittal of a lad from Moss Side or Croxteth to get the same in depth coverage.

[rob1966]

Saw the front page of the Spanish edition this morning, kicking off about crime in the UK and London. It's the cuts by their beloved Tories that's caused it the fucking hypocritical c*nts

[killer-heels]

Saw the front page of the Spanish edition this morning, kicking off about crime in the UK and London. It's the cuts by their beloved Tories that's caused it the fucking hypocritical c*nts

What the Mail mean is kill the blacks.

[OOS]

the website isn’t as right wing as the paper,  plus a lot of the view are for the celeb shite

Online website is easy to use, can navigate around quickly on a lunch hour or quick browse at home. It's shits on every other free to view paper. Every office i have worked in Liverpool, its on most people's screens. It's a good website and its got relevant content. Talking about the accessabilty of the site, not the editorial stances!

The Daily Mirror and Echo websites are dog shite to use.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

Online website is easy to use, can navigate around quickly on a lunch hour or quick browse at home. It's shits on every other free to view paper. Every office i have worked in Liverpool, its on most people's screens. It's a good website and its got relevant content. Talking about the accessabilty of the site, not the editorial stances!

The Daily Mirror and Echo websites are dog shite to use.

that too, plus it being free massively helps (always thought the rag going behind the paywall was one of the weirdest distribution decisions made by a paper in the recent past) but it’s nice and easy for people to get what they want

Mirror and echo are just pure clickbait filled with ads and auto play video and is shite for usabllity, mail and guardian aren’t which is why they’ve done well online

[Nessy76]

Online website is easy to use, can navigate around quickly on a lunch hour or quick browse at home. It's shits on every other free to view paper. Every office i have worked in Liverpool, its on most people's screens. It's a good website and its got relevant content. Talking about the accessabilty of the site, not the editorial stances!

The Daily Mirror and Echo websites are dog shite to use.

Sadly true. How hard can it be to design a useable website in this day and age, but no, pop up videos that autoplay whether you want them or not, horrible layouts that take forever to load/scroll and a general air of cheapness to the whole thing.

[SP]

Sadly true. How hard can it be to design a useable website in this day and age, but no, pop up videos that autoplay whether you want them or not, horrible layouts that take forever to load/scroll and a general air of cheapness to the whole thing.

They have crammed as much revenue generating shit on the page as they can, making the page so horrible that people actively avoid using the site. I never browse around the echo site, I only read specific stories. The unpleasantness of the site must hurt the total take. Rather than take a little money from a regular repeat customer, they just try and screw as much as possible from first visit, hang the future.

[SP]

https://amp.theguardian.com/media/2018/jun/07/new-daily-mail-editor-to-be-geordie-greig?__twitter_impression=true

Interesting times.

[Statto Red]

that too, plus it being free massively helps (always thought the rag going behind the paywall was one of the weirdest distribution decisions made by a paper in the recent past) but it’s nice and easy for people to get what they want

Mirror and echo are just pure clickbait filled with ads and auto play video and is shite for usabllity, mail and guardian aren’t which is why they’ve done well online

Plus the comments section make the Daily Mail look tame in comparison.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

Plus the comments section make the Daily Mail look tame in comparison.

still doesn’t beat the pure comedy of the express!

[TepidT2O]

https://amp.theguardian.com/media/2018/jun/07/new-daily-mail-editor-to-be-geordie-greig?__twitter_impression=true

Interesting times.

He’s pro remain......

[killer-heels]

The Mail on Sunday was very Pro Remain as well.

Wonder if its a case of trying to get a younger demographic reading the paper (good luck with that)?

[TepidT2O]

The Mail on Sunday was very Pro Remain as well.

Wonder if its a case of trying to get a younger demographic reading the paper (good luck with that)?

It evens the owners family have convinced him that the brand is utterly toxic .
Seems that maybe a more outward looking paper in the future?