Topic: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids

[Kennys from heaven]

Why don't these dickheads have a sponsor yet?

Simples - They need to cook the books more, so in the next couple of day will announce a shirt sponsorship deal for about $1bn a season... then announce a bid for Caicedo.

FFP? Chelsea farts in your face.

[bird_lfc]

Ah well.

Enzo is indeed good.

Yeah people were trying to convince themselves he was shite. Looked very good today

Saying that, so did Gallagher :d

[Musketeer Gripweed]

Why do they have a Panini shiny sticker for their badge? It looks shite.

[stockdam]

Where’s the bid?

[farawayred]

Where’s the bid?

Be-Ing Devised

[gerrardisgod]

No amount of defensive midfielders will make these a good team going forward, they were fucking shocking.

[Ray K]

Time for the PL and UEFA to grow some fucking balls with these c*nts on FFP.

[Phineus]

What’s … their plan? Like, what is it they’re actually trying to achieve?

[Filler.]

Time for the PL and UEFA to grow some fucking balls with these c*nts on FFP.

Never going to happen. See literally every post of mine about FFP for the last 15 or whatever years - it's an absolute sham.

[blert596]

What’s … their plan? Like, what is it they’re actually trying to achieve?

Their plan is to buy anyone for any price over the last 18 months. And be damned with FFP.

I reckon the worst they think will happen to them will be a fine or a transfer ban for a year. Nether will affect them by then.

If they get fined, they'll get some sort of sponsorsip via Saudi through Clearlake to pay it. Theyre not arsed.

If they get a transfer ban then theyve stocked up on a load of decent talent for about 8 years per player. Again, not arsed.

rich teams can do what they like

[Peabee]

Never going to happen. See literally every post of mine about FFP for the last 15 or whatever years - it's an absolute sham.

Yeah, it’s one of those rules where most parties will adhere to it, but the authority won’t really do much about those not adhering to the rules other than meaningless fines and warnings etc.

[Phineus]

Their plan is to buy anyone for any price over the last 18 months. And be damned with FFP.

I reckon the worst they think will happen to them will be a fine or a transfer ban for a year. Nether will affect them by then.

If they get fined, they'll get some sort of sponsorsip via Saudi through Clearlake to pay it. Theyre not arsed.

If they get a transfer ban then theyve stocked up on a load of decent talent for about 8 years per player. Again, not arsed.

rich teams can do what they like

Yeah but, why buy so many players? Why spend so much in such little time?

What’s the actual plan or end goal they’re after? As batshit as it seems from outside, they won’t be doing it for shits and giggles. They’ll be some galaxy brain strategy in place, just trying to understand what advantage they think they’re getting.

[RedBec1993]

FFP dead and on its arse. Hope it comes back to bite them in the worst way possible, it won’t but yeah.

Horrible club from top to bottom.

[Trotterwatch]

Hope this somehow bites them in the arse and they eventually end up playing non-league football.  Bunch of crooks aided and abetted by the authorities.  Well run financially viable clubs have no way to compete.

[Filler.]

Yeah, it’s one of those rules where most parties will adhere to it, but the authority won’t really do much about those not adhering to the rules other than meaningless fines and warnings etc.

Most parties will adhere to it because it would be financially impossible for most of them to not adhere to it. And when those smaller clubs do cross the line, they can throw the book at them and say 'hey.. we're implementing FFP'


It's an absolute scam. This is high level football and the clubs with the MAJOR backers can laugh in the Premier League's faces because the PL are run by pricks who also love money. Money talks, not this FFP bullshit.

[RK7]

They are going to be force again, Enzo and Caicedo will be some partnership. Very good coach too.

[Peabee]

Most parties will adhere to it because it would be financially impossible for most of them to not adhere to it. And when those smaller clubs do cross the line, they can throw the book at them and say 'hey.. we're implementing FFP'


It's an absolute scam. This is high level football and the clubs with the MAJOR backers can laugh in the Premier League's faces because the PL are run by pricks who also love money. Money talks, not this FFP bullshit.

Agreed. Definitely a scam. UEFA just want as much money in the game as possible. FFP is akin to a nightclub handing over a few pills they’ve seized to give the impression they’re doing something.

[4pool]

Chelsea, this season, don't have to worry about FFP.... because they are not in Europe.

The Premier League does have their profit and sustainability rules. The ones Everton are being charged with.


So what are the profitability and sustainability rules?

Commonly but incorrectly referred to as FFP (financial fair play) they are the rules contained in Section E of the Premier League Handbook, rules E.45 to E.53.

Essentially they limit the permitted losses of a football club to £105 million over a three year period

[Filler.]

Agreed. Definitely a scam. UEFA just want as much money in the game as possible. FFP is akin to a nightclub handing over a few pills they’ve seized to give the impression they’re doing something.

Exactly. Part of me is kind of glad that there's another club ROYALLY taking the piss out of the PL tho that's balanced out by the fact everyone knows fuck all will be done.

[Dim Glas]

League or bust for Pochetinno this season.

What a farce this league is with them and the sportswashers (x2)

[MonsLibpool]

Chelsea, this season, don't have to worry about FFP.... because they are not in Europe.

The Premier League does have their profit and sustainability rules. The ones Everton are being charged with.


So what are the profitability and sustainability rules?

Commonly but incorrectly referred to as FFP (financial fair play) they are the rules contained in Section E of the Premier League Handbook, rules E.45 to E.53.

Essentially they limit the permitted losses of a football club to £105 million over a three year period

This is bullshit. Do you know why?

Because it will have an impact when they qualify for a European competition this season. I'm baffled by how easy it is to manipulate their fans. Their spending is spread out and will be factored into subsequent European campaigns.

How will they get a licence if they are blatantly flouting FFP? Or isn't the point of spending big to qualify for the Champions League at the very least (for sustainability)? That's why the above excuse doesn't hold water.

[cdav]

Absolutely fuck all said by the media on questioning how they can do this and be compliant with the rules. Its one of the biggest reasons cheats like these (and City) can continue as there is zero scrutiny

[Gifted Right Foot]

Ornstein just confirmed 115 mil plus sell on clause and a 8/9 year contract.  I'm sure his agent got a nice bonus as well.  Can't believe they can keep doing these sort of transfers. 

[FiSh77]

Absolutely fuck all said by the media on questioning how they can do this and be compliant with the rules. Its one of the biggest reasons cheats like these (and City) can continue as there is zero scrutiny

A hell of a lot of our support were hanging out of the media's arse when the club tried to do something about it (and no doubt the same c*nts are crying about FSG's transfer policy) we get what we deserve

While the game is in UEFA's hands (and to some extent the premier league's) there will never be a level playing field

[arfy05]

The media have no interest in asking questions about transfer spends. Everyone directly or indirectly gets paid, either through twitter from rehashing the same itk words 30 times or an agent, or sky from the entertainment and ssn breaking news. Then the regulators who are all corrupt or have been corrupt in the past. Heck the guy who runs PSG is the chairman of the ECA, same guy attacked a ref and had nothing happen to him. With sportswashers now entering the sphere this has only further minimized the apetite for regulation. Sportswashers have done such an effective job that so many fans want them and give zero fvcks about ethics or morals. The game isn’t the game anymore. The success Klopp 1.0 had will be talked about for years as it sill be one of the few projects not backed by dirty money in the next few decades.

[Machae]

This whole year, something very dodgy has happened. Abrahimovic is sanctioned, yet they were allowed to continue trading. His debts, or money owed has seemingly been written off. They've spent close to a billion, handing out contracts like its confetti and UEFA, FIFA, Premier League FA don't find this dodgy. Fuck that, why doesn't the Govt or Sports Minister look into this, because its shady as fuck

[Egyptian36]

This whole year, something very dodgy has happened. Abrahimovic is sanctioned, yet they were allowed to continue trading. His debts, or money owed has seemingly been written off. They've spent close to a billion, handing out contracts like its confetti and UEFA, FIFA, Premier League FA don't find this dodgy. Fuck that, why doesn't the Govt or Sports Minister look into this, because its shady as fuck

It's the UK. Just show them the money then you can do whatever you want.

[stoa]

League or bust for Pochetinno this season.

What a farce this league is with them and the sportswashers (x2)

Haven't seen him in a while. When did he start dressing like Diego Simeone's fat brother?

[Red Being]

They are going to be force again, Enzo and Caicedo will be some partnership. Very good coach too.

yep. Enzo is so good. Single handedly took the game away from us. We should've got him when we could've.

[The North Bank]

I hardly recognised any of their players. The new names kept coming. In all honesty they were bang average, hopeful clearances under pressure turned into good balls because the Liverpool defence was so open. First half an hour should’ve been a few goals down. At no stage did they look comfortable at the back or lethal going forward. Enzo was excellent and the 2 full backs, beyond that didnt see much to worry the top 4.

[Kopenhagen]

They're seriously going to play Robert Sanchez for the rest of the season?

[shook]

They are going to be force again, Enzo and Caicedo will be some partnership. Very good coach too.

I think they will be a difficult match up for teams, especially with such a strong midfield, but a force?  They seem unbalanced. Kind of like a league version of those Strong Croatian teams, but not playing in a cup tournament where 1-1 after extra-time would help them achieve a great league position

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They're seriously going to play Robert Sanchez for the rest of the season?

[MBL?]

They will improve with the midfield signings but where are the goals coming from?

We dominated that game for about 35 minutes and they took over. That’s a big worry for us but for them they couldn’t beat us at home in that situation.

If this was the other way around at anfield we’d have won that game because we have a lot more players who get goals. Even in the second half Nunez came very close to scoring when we were under pressure. Jackson for them looked up for it but I’m not convinced he will score a load. Sterling isn’t as good as any of our wide options and I think the other lad is an 8 normally. nkunku Looks good but is out for about 6 months I believe.

[Egyptian36]

yep. Enzo is so good. Single handedly took the game away from us. We should've got him when we could've.

Totally agree and it's not like we didn't know about him, we were very interested in him. We fked up. It's so annoying that Boehly got him and Caicedo too.

[Armchair expert]

The media have no interest in asking questions about transfer spends. Everyone directly or indirectly gets paid, either through twitter from rehashing the same itk words 30 times or an agent, or sky from the entertainment and ssn breaking news. Then the regulators who are all corrupt or have been corrupt in the past. Heck the guy who runs PSG is the chairman of the ECA, same guy attacked a ref and had nothing happen to him. With sportswashers now entering the sphere this has only further minimized the apetite for regulation. Sportswashers have done such an effective job that so many fans want them and give zero fvcks about ethics or morals. The game isn’t the game anymore. The success Klopp 1.0 had will be talked about for years as it sill be one of the few projects not backed by dirty money in the next few decades.

When it looked like we may sign Caciedo the BBC were more arsed in rehashing 7 year old quotes from Klopp  about teams paying lots of money out for players like Utd did with Pogba

[Syntexity]

Remember the days during the takeover that everyone thought Chelsea would have to spend according to their finances? Not sure anyone imagined this 

They wont slow down anytime soon it looks like. They know the punishment for not breaking any rules are just small fines anyway. The worst part is they are putting the sportswashing cheats like Abu Dhabi and Saudicastle in their shadows so that they can continue their cheating ways with less light shined on them. The only thing that could ever stop this, is if the PL and UEFA will clean up and lets face it, they wont. 

[The North Bank]

Remember the days during the takeover that everyone thought Chelsea would have to spend according to their finances? Not sure anyone imagined this 

They wont slow down anytime soon it looks like. They know the punishment for not breaking any rules are just small fines anyway. The worst part is they are putting the sportswashing cheats like Abu Dhabi and Saudicastle in their shadows so that they can continue their cheating ways with less light shined on them. The only thing that could ever stop this, is if the PL and UEFA will clean up and lets face it, they wont.

They still finished 12th last season and while they’ll improve, they’re still miles off being serious contenders.

They do get a free ride, infact their spending seems to get celebrated.  There seems to be all round disappointment when chelsea dont spend , theres no pressure on them either by the media , top 6 is a good result for them this season I keep reading, after spending a billion. meanwhile arsenal must win everything because we spent in 5 years what they did in one window.

[Zlen]

And if Liverpool approach the Chelsea spending for one transfer, we get the BBC article asking is Klopp a hypocrite because in 2016 he said he would never buy players for 100m. But Chelsea and City inflating prices in those seven years - well, who cares about that.

[The North Bank]

And if Liverpool approach the Chelsea spending for one transfer, we get the BBC article asking is Klopp a hypocrite because in 2016 he said he would never buy players for 100m. But Chelsea and City inflating prices in those seven years - well, who cares about that.

And in the end he didn’t even spend the 100m , still had to face stupid questions about it. Not one journalist asks anyone at Chelsea whats the expectations after spending a billion in a year.
There are definitely narratives.

[Jwils21]

Caicedo, Fernandez and Lukaku all bought for over 100m.

Don’t complain about it though, you’ll just be another “salty” jealous onlooker.