Author Topic: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT  (Read 8410 times)

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Given that we're not quite half way through the season and how close things are currently, the result here may not be all that important overall - however it's also fair to label this as the biggest game of the season so far.

Despite the fact we're a point off top, qualified a game early in the Europa and are in the semi's of the League Cup, it still felt like we were out of form to a degree. So Wednesday night was a real boost. West Ham were perhaps as poor as I can remember and they do have a terrible record at Anfield (one win in their history), but we were sharp, energetic, creative and clinical in a way thats been missing recently.

I think Saturday we find out where we really at.

I haven't followed Arsenal closely but it seems they're less adventurous than last season but have added a bit more control, become harder to beat and it's clearly been effective as they're through to the last 16 of the CL and sit a point ahead of us in the League.
They've got a few injuries, with Partey, Viera, Tomiyasu & Timber out and Elneny and Jorginho doubts, but that doesn't feel like it impacts them massively.


I don't think we've any players due back Saturday, so we're likely still without Jota & Mac Allister and the long term ones (Robbo, Thiago, Matip, Bajcetic, Doak). That still means we can field a strong line up with options on the bench.
I suspect Jones will keep his place with Endo & Szoboszlai in the middle, but Elliott somehow will probably be back on the bench with Salah back in. Not sure about the rest of the forward line.
Probably the only choice in defence is who partners Virgil, and you can make cases for all 3 of Gomez, Konate & Quansah. But I'll let you all discuss line ups, as I'm not really sure how we're going to go.


I think this has all the makings of an open attacking and exciting game, hopefully it ends up that way rather than us both perhaps being too nervy or cancelling each other out. They've put together a good team with the likes of Saka, Martinelli, Odegaard & Rice bringing real quality. They've shown they're dangerous and can win games late (not as often as us mind), but they concede late in games as well. Sometimes these are in games they're ahead in but it's something we may be able to take advantage of to win the game late.

I'm hopeful the cohesion and sharp, quick but controlled play that was evident on Wednesday can be re-produced here, if so we're the better team in my view and if we can show that we win. If we're below our best by any amount then this becomes a very tough game potentially. I like our chances at Anfield, we've got a good record against them at home. I believe we'll be top for Christmas.

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« Last Edit: December 22, 2023, 02:37:01 pm by Twoturtleduvvas »
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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2023, 02:47:04 pm »
Alisson, TAA, VVD, Konate, Tsimikas, Endo, Jones, Szob, Salah, Nunez, Diaz.

Looks a good enough team to me to win a high scoring encounter.

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2023, 02:54:49 pm »
nice post, duvva.

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2023, 03:02:41 pm »
biggest test of the season so far.

their midfield:
- Odegaard is slick as hell, and v fast
- Rice is a machine
- Havertz can play but goes missing more than he shows up

so do we start Endo or move Trent to 6 with Joe at RB?

Endo
- did very well vs West Ham, and vs MU imo (note the "imo" let's not rekindle a tedious debate ok?)
- but Arsenal are a very very different proposition
- Klopp may prefer a natural DM

Trent
- we know what he can do with the ball, without the ball is the issue
- if he's at 6 the Arse players will target the hell out of him
- vs West Ham we saw a glimpse of him at the 6 so you could read the tea leaves to death on that.  but again ... West Ham, in a game that was pretty comfortable at that point

my guess-expectation: I think Klopp will put his faith in Endo, and go with Jones and Dom to continue getting them into rhythm together. but if he does that, I'd like him to tell Trent to cool it with going inside otherwise Martinelli will run riot.

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2023, 03:07:57 pm »
This will be a really good test for both teams, should also be a really good football match.
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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2023, 03:08:50 pm »
I'd have Gomez at RB to help deal with Martinelli and also going forward, his runs have been helpful down the right. I'd move Trent to midfield with Jones and Szobozslai, Id keep Nunez on the left, Mo central and Harvey on the right. Youd get midfield numbers with him there too.


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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2023, 03:11:18 pm »
biggest test of the season so far.

their midfield:
- Odegaard is slick as hell, and v fast
- Rice is a machine
- Havertz can play but goes missing more than he shows up

so do we start Endo or move Trent to 6 with Joe at RB?

Endo
- did very well vs West Ham, and vs MU imo (note the "imo" let's not rekindle a tedious debate ok?)
- but Arsenal are a very very different proposition
- Klopp may prefer a natural DM

Trent
- we know what he can do with the ball, without the ball is the issue
- if he's at 6 the Arse players will target the hell out of him
- vs West Ham we saw a glimpse of him at the 6 so you could read the tea leaves to death on that.  but again ... West Ham, in a game that was pretty comfortable at that point

my guess-expectation: I think Klopp will put his faith in Endo, and go with Jones and Dom to continue getting them into rhythm together. but if he does that, I'd like him to tell Trent to cool it with going inside otherwise Martinelli will run riot.

Trent + Joe at RB:
Get the advantage of TAA in DM but not sacrifice defensive solidity at RB
TAA is faster than Endo
If TAA is in MF, Joe still gives us an attacking threat on the right.
Plus I like the idea of Gakpo dropping deep, TAA + 1 as the centre 3.
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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2023, 03:14:21 pm »
Will l be forced to watch that jumping gimp Arteta pitch side or is he banished to the stands? So tiresome to watch his side’s time wasting. They seem to have improved their dark arts routines especially in getting opposition players riled up.

Endo has played quite a bit of football and Nunez played the full 90. Tough call for Klopp. We’ll need to pace ourselves for this one. I sincerely hope we only show them as much respect as is required and not an ounce more.
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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2023, 03:21:55 pm »
This will be a really good test for both teams, should also be a really good football match.
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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2023, 03:28:07 pm »
These are always pretty poor away to anyone half decent so hopefully that continues tomorrow and we are back at the top.

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2023, 03:48:44 pm »
if Jones and gakpo start we win
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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2023, 04:36:14 pm »
Heard a bloke on the radio saying both sides would take a draw if offered now. Not sure I agree with that, up until the the Mancs game we were 100%.
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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2023, 04:39:13 pm »
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Endo   Szoboszlai   Jones
Salah   Nunez   Gakpo

Hoping the weather is nice and fucking vile, these are fucking fairies when push comes to shove. Reckon we'll be right at them from the off, the old heavy metal football making a comeback for this one would be nice, remember the 5-1 after boxing day? Yeah, something like that would be nice. Arsenal are quite strong around the pitch but I think they have clear deficiencies in goal (hopefully Raya playing but I've got a feeling he'll shit himself and put Ramsdale in) and on both sides at full-back. Endo and Gomez on later to see it out, ta.

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2023, 04:39:28 pm »
Heard a bloke on the radio saying both sides would take a draw if offered now. Not sure I agree with that, up until the the Mancs game we were 100%.


Were at home , I’m hoping for a win

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2023, 04:41:23 pm »
Heard a bloke on the radio saying both sides would take a draw if offered now. Not sure I agree with that, up until the the Mancs game we were 100%.

Yeah dropped points in 2 home games in a week would be shit regardless of the opponents, these have already lost at Villa and Newcastle and fluked an undeserved point at Chelsea after getting dominated all game, got to be beating them at home.

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2023, 04:43:05 pm »
Cheers for the OP.

Everything is set up for this to be a fantastic clash. Even if it's low scoring I'm still expecting some good football and some drama. I feel it's not very often we have boring games against Arsenal (although I'm sure I'll be corrected on that one ;D). Buzzing for it personally.

Heard a bloke on the radio saying both sides would take a draw if offered now. Not sure I agree with that, up until the the Mancs game we were 100%.

As good as Arsenal are, at home and with their record at Anfield, I would never opt for a draw.

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2023, 04:46:07 pm »
Heard a bloke on the radio saying both sides would take a draw if offered now. Not sure I agree with that, up until the the Mancs game we were 100%.
I think his name R. Tetta?

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2023, 04:47:14 pm »
Trent hasnt started a game for Liverpool in midield or as a 6.
I cant see him starting this as a 6.
Szobo will have to so alot of running. They'll target Martenelli v Trent 1v1

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2023, 05:30:40 pm »
Saliba out for them…

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2023, 05:32:19 pm »
The 2-2 last year at Anfield we should've easily won. Their first goal had a big element of luck. Andy's mistake and then Virgil's unlucky flick then Andy's missed clearance.

Mo's missed penalty, two further penalty awards we should have had. Endless goal line clearances.

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2023, 05:33:03 pm »
Saliba out for them…

Who do they have to replace him?

Can't see that anywhere?

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2023, 05:33:08 pm »
Wish we had Bobby for this.  He was usually always good for a brace against them. 

I deputize Gakpo to take on that role Saturday. 

I don't think we lose, but can't say I'm confident of a win either.  We should win, but wouldn't be shocked or too upset about a 2-2 scoreline. 

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2023, 05:35:05 pm »
Saliba out for them…
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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2023, 05:35:05 pm »
Saliba out for them…

Who do they have to replace him?

No one has reported that you clown.  :D

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2023, 05:37:11 pm »
Still think they're overhyped. They've been lucky to get some wins recently. Who would you take from their team other than Saka and maybe Rice?

I'd love to bring them back down to earth and it would be a big statement with City not playing.
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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2023, 05:51:08 pm »
Just win. Get the 3 points. Happy Days.
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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2023, 05:56:56 pm »
No one has reported that you clown.  :D
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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2023, 05:59:16 pm »
Still think they're overhyped. They've been lucky to get some wins recently. Who would you take from their team other than Saka and maybe Rice?

I'd love to bring them back down to earth and it would be a big statement with City not playing.
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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2023, 06:05:34 pm »
looks like jota and macca back for the newcastle game

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #29 on: December 22, 2023, 06:07:50 pm »
This will be a big test.

We don't do this much anymore - however, West Ham was an exception - but we must start this game well. And try to get a goal in the first half, if we can.

If I had to guess the side based on Wednesday, it would be:

                   Ali

Trent   Konate   VVD   Tsimi

        Szobo  Endo   Curtis

  Salah      Gakpo     Diaz

With Elliot, Nunez, Gomez, and Grav on the bench and definitely coming on at some point.

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #30 on: December 22, 2023, 06:08:20 pm »
looks like jota and macca might be back for the newcastle game

you missed a key bit ....

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #31 on: December 22, 2023, 06:18:47 pm »
you missed a key bit ....

after the burnley game we dont play for 6 days so they should be ready by then

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2023, 06:24:36 pm »
after the burnley game we dont play for 6 days so they should be ready by then
you included a key bit!  :)

BTW it doesn't matter if it's 6 days after Tuesday's game - either they're available on 1/1 or they aren't.

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2023, 06:44:09 pm »
Endo would get slaughtered against them in the six IMO. They would massively target him. I'd rather see Trent or even Gomez in there.

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #34 on: December 22, 2023, 06:46:20 pm »
Endo would get slaughtered against them in the six IMO. They would massively target him. I'd rather see Trent or even Gomez in there.

Why would he get slaughtered?
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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2023, 06:52:50 pm »
Endo would get slaughtered against them in the six IMO. They would massively target him. I'd rather see Trent or even Gomez in there.

Not with Jones helping he wouldn’t.

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2023, 07:14:45 pm »
Why would he get slaughtered?
He couldn't cope against Palace and their press a couple of weeks back. He's too slow on the turn and when put under pressure he is an obvious weakness to exploit.

I like him and he has a part to play but in a big game against a team like Arsenal he just isn't at the level and nothing he has shown suggests otherwise. To me he actually looks better when he comes forward, his passing is good and he can shoot, but in the six he's been exposed plenty times enough to be worried about how he'd fare against arguably the best team in the league.

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #37 on: December 22, 2023, 07:21:55 pm »
is the Annie Rd fully open tomorrow?

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2023, 07:30:08 pm »
He couldn't cope against Palace and their press a couple of weeks back. He's too slow on the turn and when put under pressure he is an obvious weakness to exploit.

I like him and he has a part to play but in a big game against a team like Arsenal he just isn't at the level and nothing he has shown suggests otherwise. To me he actually looks better when he comes forward, his passing is good and he can shoot, but in the six he's been exposed plenty times enough to be worried about how he'd fare against arguably the best team in the league.

When did this happen?

I see what you mean about Endo but I think there's a big difference between home and away games. How many times do we ever look 2nd best at home? And I'm not talking about the opposition could have nicked it type games, I'm talking about really bested. The only game I have in mind is Real Madrid last season and I'm thinking back a while.

They started well at Anfield last season and in general have been consistently winning games since the start of last season but they just don't win big away games. Not to say it can't happen and nothing will ever really surprise me in football but I fancy the midfield to rise to the occasion tomorrow and see us through. Rice is usually on it even when his team isn't as a whole and Odegaard can be tricky but physically it's the type of game he's liable to go missing in, and I don't think you can play lightweights like Havertz in midfield at Anfield, seen it a thousand times before. On it in front of goal, test Raya, get the win.

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Arsenal, Anfield Sat 23rd Dec KO 17:30 GMT
« Reply #39 on: December 22, 2023, 07:38:25 pm »
is the Annie Rd fully open tomorrow?
Don’t think it’s fully open until Man City. 57K again
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