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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #12720 on: April 26, 2024, 07:46:51 pm »
From what I've been hearing from Dutch journalists on TV and also reading about him in the press I'm liking the cut of his jib. Hardly incisive I know but there you are.

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #12721 on: April 26, 2024, 07:48:17 pm »
Well, there's a big difference between style of play/philosophy and formation, which is muddying a lot of this discussion.

You can play high pressing football in lots of different formations, with and without the ball, obviously. You can play turgid, shit on a stick football using 4-3-3. The formation is neutral.

So, yeah, why was Alonso first choice with these "formation" considerations, yet these considerations ruled out Amorim? It doesn't make any sense and falls apart pretty easily when you analyze it.

We just prefer Slot to Amorim because of various considerations: it's that simple.

Or when we spoke to Amorim maybe he was absolutely adamant that he'd always play 3-5-2? I don't know if we ever spoke to Alonso, but he could have been more pragmatic about it.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #12722 on: April 26, 2024, 07:51:15 pm »
He's got into fights with Simeone and Mourinho. Basically he doesn;t like shit on a stick footie . ;D

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #12723 on: April 26, 2024, 07:55:20 pm »
He's got into fights with Simeone and Mourinho. Basically he doesn;t like shit on a stick footie . ;D

He’d going to love three quarters of this league then. :D

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #12724 on: April 26, 2024, 08:00:18 pm »
He's going to headbutt Ten Hag next season.  ;D

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« Reply #12725 on: April 26, 2024, 08:06:07 pm »

He improves the players he works with, good record of developing youngsters and over performs with the budget and resources he’s given, the only negative is he’s not managed at a similar level but we won’t know if he’s good enough unless he gets the chance


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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #12726 on: April 26, 2024, 08:11:58 pm »
From what I've been hearing from Dutch journalists on TV and also reading about him in the press I'm liking the cut of his jib. Hardly incisive I know but there you are.

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #12728 on: April 26, 2024, 08:15:33 pm »
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« Reply #12729 on: April 26, 2024, 08:17:11 pm »
Well Klopp seems to be ok with it, even though some fans have decided it's somehow both desperate and arrogant, unseemly and points to fundamental character flaws that can be projected across his entire management style.

 ;D It's def been one of the weirder criticisms I've ever seen of a potential signing.

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #12730 on: April 26, 2024, 08:21:15 pm »
Slot and Amorim are about equally as risky as each other. There is some sense going with the one that has the most similar tactics.

I don’t think that we’d be entirely against changing formations, and I think that shows it itself simply by us having Amorim as a finalist for the job, but it’s not hard to imagine that we don’t see Amorim as an unmissable prospect that we should rearrange our whole setup for.

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #12731 on: April 26, 2024, 08:23:35 pm »
I can understand appointing Slot much more than all the other potential replacements we've been linked with.  We need to remember that our club is bigger than any individual and while some individuals shine more in our history than others, this club does what it does because of the collective.

We need a head coach who will fit into the club as a personality and with how they put the players out on the pitch to represent us.  There are literally dozens of people who operate (or will operate) within that dynamic to prepare the team.  The head coach leads that so their ability to lead and communicate what is needed is clearly a key quality.  Fitting in with the structures we already have, and using the resources (players) we have to maximise their strengths is the role.

The style of play (which includes how the team is structured both in and out of possession) needs to fit in with the way our players have been coached, or we'll be in a complete rebuild of the club territory (which isn't needed).  Klopp (and the rest of the people within the structure) has built an amazing platform for the next head coach to carry on from.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #12732 on: April 26, 2024, 08:29:15 pm »
Just have to go with the club on this one really (not that we have any say in the matter anyway), but who else is there who’s more of a dead cert for success?? Even Alonso’s only been at it 5 minutes and wouldn’t be the first coach to overachieve and the not live up to the hype.  There’s two managers who are stratospheres above anyone else at the moment, one of them is about to leave us and the other is at Man City…the level below that don’t seem like good fits for us, so what do you do? Say what you want about FSG but they do their homework.
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« Reply #12733 on: April 26, 2024, 08:36:54 pm »
I'm already worrying about Slots first official press interview after being appointed.
I fucking dread the predictably stupid questions he's going to be asked.

About how he will replace Jurgen. There's got to be preparation by him and the club to bat that shit away swiftly. He can't replace Jurgen Klopp, he's simply the next appointed candidate to occupy the position as Liverpool manager - that's it.

What he expects to win and achieve. Lets hope he doesn't go in studs first and say it depends if the PL sanction the cheats for financial corruption, and just says he'll do his best in his own way.

etc, etc, just wait. There'll be few genuinely interesting questions which drill down in to how he likes football and his philosophy about the game.

And within all that.
If he says one misunderstood comment or something somebody doesn't like, I dread the fucking hysteria across our online fanbase.
The wools and dickheads will slaughter him before he's even said hello to the full squad.

It's amazing how for both the extremes of good and bad, Slots life will change beyond significantly for the foreseeable future.

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« Reply #12734 on: April 26, 2024, 08:38:10 pm »
He's going to headbutt Ten Hag next season.  ;D
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #12736 on: April 26, 2024, 08:40:35 pm »
Missed the last 100 pages or so but is there any chance this might open the door to our Pep staying an extra 12 months for continuity?
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #12737 on: April 26, 2024, 08:42:09 pm »
Good posts from prof and John C.

Unless he turns into Hodgson I don’t think anyone should be sharpening their knives for at least a couple of years

He seems to have the kind of style and tactical nous that should fit our current squad and it will be clear to him how he’ll fit within the player recruitment structure so that shouldn’t present any problem.

The biggest thing for me is whether he has the gravitas for want of a better word to lead the bigger names and get them to believe in him and his way, which will ensure the players stick together in the hard times.

I’m quite excited to see what a fresh approach might bring
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #12739 on: April 26, 2024, 08:44:17 pm »
Missed the last 100 pages or so but is there any chance this might open the door to our Pep staying an extra 12 months for continuity?
Sounds like he'll be brining his own assistant, and Ljinders seems keen to have another crack at management.

Regardless, I think a new start is the best thing for us. New ideas, new system, new style. There's a feeling that our current system is getting stale.

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #12740 on: April 26, 2024, 08:45:30 pm »
Paul Joyce - Liverpool and Feyenoord have now verbally agreed a compensation package for Arne Slot.

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #12741 on: April 26, 2024, 08:45:53 pm »
Be done shortly this.

Imagine full announcement end of week, to allow for proper interview and media package etc.

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« Reply #12742 on: April 26, 2024, 08:47:21 pm »
You can tell it’s Friday evening, nobody’s here for the news  ;D
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #12744 on: April 26, 2024, 08:51:23 pm »
Wears Stone Island too, perhaps he’s a right hard c*nt

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #12745 on: April 26, 2024, 08:51:53 pm »
Really liked everything I've seen and heard about him over the past couple of days.

Now that it's pretty much done, I'm excited to see what he'll bring to the club and how he'll put his stamp on things.


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« Reply #12746 on: April 26, 2024, 08:53:04 pm »
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #12747 on: April 26, 2024, 08:53:09 pm »
I like him, based off Feyenoord match highlights. Team is well coordinated in both phases, reacts quickly to game situations in an organised manner - which is always a good starting point to assess and know that a lot of coaching work has gone into the side.
He's no man-manager bluffer, he's a coach first. The rest, if it gives him 'charisma', great.

You see the quick short passing and high press, which fits us fine, but also there's a defensive solidity there, which we lack.
If he can modify the shape we play now to make us more compact, while taking in aspects of that consistent high press from Feyenoord...we could easily improve in our play compared to this season.

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #12748 on: April 26, 2024, 08:54:24 pm »
Welcome Mr Slot.

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« Reply #12749 on: April 26, 2024, 08:55:10 pm »
Really liked everything I've seen and heard about him over the past couple of days.

Now that it's pretty much done, I'm excited to see what he'll bring to the club and how he'll put his stamp on things.



Yep, Klopp leaving is crap but at the same time, it's exciting as well to see how our squad will develop with him in charge.

Happy that this seems to be done quickly as well, I had a fear things would drag on into the close season but thankfully that doesn't seem to be the case.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #12750 on: April 26, 2024, 08:55:55 pm »
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #12751 on: April 26, 2024, 08:56:31 pm »
Welcome Arne. Really excited about this  :D

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« Reply #12752 on: April 26, 2024, 08:57:08 pm »
I'm already worrying about Slots first official press interview after being appointed.
I fucking dread the predictably stupid questions he's going to be asked.

About how he will replace Jurgen. There's got to be preparation by him and the club to bat that shit away swiftly. He can't replace Jurgen Klopp, he's simply the next appointed candidate to occupy the position as Liverpool manager - that's it.

What he expects to win and achieve. Lets hope he doesn't go in studs first and say it depends if the PL sanction the cheats for financial corruption, and just says he'll do his best in his own way.

etc, etc, just wait. There'll be few genuinely interesting questions which drill down in to how he likes football and his philosophy about the game.

And within all that.
If he says one misunderstood comment or something somebody doesn't like, I dread the fucking hysteria across our online fanbase.
The wools and dickheads will slaughter him before he's even said hello to the full squad.

It's amazing how for both the extremes of good and bad, Slots life will change beyond significantly for the foreseeable future.

You'd hope the other guy next to him, whether that would be Edwards (you'd expect given his job title, but he's previously ensured only 3 photos of him exist never mind a full on global presser) ) or Hughes (in the job 5 minutes) or my preference, Billy Hogan (as per Jurgen's announcement) to as you say, bat the shit away fairly swiftly, and keep things on agenda and the same page. We don't need another Rodgers/Ayre situation, which set the tone for his relationship with Edwards and the rest of the recruitment setup, which dug his own grave eventually.

The other thing to accept is Klopp was unique as he almost always knew exactly the right thing to say for any given occasion. I can't think of a single misstep or ill-judged comment. Astonishing really over 9 seasons. From "I'm just the normal one" to "It's not that I want to leave, but it's that I have to".

Even if he wasn't Dutch, Slot is just not going to be the same. So there'll need to be some patience, acceptance and allowances for this. It will happen and it won't sit well with some of us. As long as he does well, doesn't come off as a c*nt, like Ten Hag or Guardiola publicly berating out players, and is genuinely humble (unlike Rodgers) in the face of the life-changing opportunity he's been lucky to be granted, then it'll be grand. Until it isn't, results-wise.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #12753 on: April 26, 2024, 08:57:10 pm »
Welcome coach, best of luck to you!

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« Reply #12754 on: April 26, 2024, 08:58:24 pm »
Best of luck to Arne. Bring Hancko with you please

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #12755 on: April 26, 2024, 09:01:33 pm »
Hopefully he does well, don’t get why people would be excited, think he’s more a ‘wait and see how he does’ appointment. Particularly with the changes to the team that will be happening. The last of our great title winning team will be bowing out over the next two years in Mo, Virgil and Robertson. Trent, if he stays, will be the only outfield regular from that period. Will be a period of massive change so maybe unfair to expect Slot to have us challenging.

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« Reply #12756 on: April 26, 2024, 09:01:53 pm »
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« Reply #12757 on: April 26, 2024, 09:02:01 pm »
I can understand appointing Slot much more than all the other potential replacements we've been linked with.

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« Reply #12758 on: April 26, 2024, 09:03:13 pm »
Always great to see someone build a coaching career from the ground up rather than the Lampard / Gerrard superstar shortcut.

May his work prosper here, welcome Arne Slot  :scarf

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« Reply #12759 on: April 26, 2024, 09:06:05 pm »
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