Author Topic: Liverpool owner Hicks selling Texas Rangers shares (Read 303521 times)

Lenstar · « **Reply #1480 on:** April 23, 2009, 05:34:27 pm »

Quote from: dbroms on April 23, 2009, 05:32:52 pm

just made me laugh mate, thought id be the only sad git sitting on this page hitting F5 constantly, my guess is its nothing more than ticket prices and maybe some small financial statements but nothing exciting , heres hoping with my F5 key

i didnt say i was going to be sitting here hitting f5 (!!!!!!), just wondered what the odds were....

back to hitting f5 f5 f5 f5 f5

Liverbird 2010 · « **Reply #1481 on:** April 23, 2009, 05:39:17 pm »

Cant be doing with this I have to pack for my hols tommorrow and go shopping FFS.

fletched · « **Reply #1482 on:** April 23, 2009, 05:42:18 pm »

I'm pretty sure if we had new owners taking over tomorrow the ticket price freeze announcement would have been delayed. No better PR for new owners to breeze in saying they wont be increasing prices.

Everything feels flat again after a couple of days worth of hope

No666 · « **Reply #1483 on:** April 23, 2009, 05:42:45 pm »

Glad I've got some work on tomorrow.
the thing is, every time some info raises our hopes, only to be dashed again, my hatred for the two owners increases. Illogical but unavoidable. Sell, damn you, sell!

shelovesyou · « **Reply #1484 on:** April 23, 2009, 05:44:18 pm »

Apart form the ticket price announcment does anyone think we might have the accounts published ? ?
Just a thought like . . .they are due aswell . . .

It cant be the ticket freeze news on there tomoz as its already up there

lfctitch · « **Reply #1485 on:** April 23, 2009, 06:00:41 pm »

I still firmly believe a sale has/will be done within the next few days. When it is announced is anyones guess.

ttnbd · « **Reply #1486 on:** April 23, 2009, 06:01:48 pm »

Quote from: west_london_red on April 23, 2009, 04:35:10 pm

I can see all the clubs who have been docked points kicking up a massive amount of noise if we were in the same situation as them and treated any differently, and in all honesty who could blame them? Cant have 1 rule for the big guys and another for the little guys.

I'd keep more of an eye on West Ham and their issues. The rumours are that the banks are going to take ownership. If that's true then watch to see what the FA/Premier League do. If they do nothing then it would probably increase the chances of RBS taking on the club short term before selling rather than placing in administration if that were to become a significant risk, or instead of refinancing the loans with Hicks and Gillett.

ttnbd · « **Reply #1487 on:** April 23, 2009, 06:03:08 pm »

Quote from: shelovesyouyehyehyeh on April 23, 2009, 05:44:18 pm

Apart form the ticket price announcment does anyone think we might have the accounts published ? ?
Just a thought like . . .they are due aswell . . .

They are due but wouldn't have thought that would be the case. They didn't announce last years.

lfctitch · « **Reply #1488 on:** April 23, 2009, 06:06:20 pm »

Would you announce them publically after they spent how much on themselves? £2-3 million in last years alone.

12Kings · « **Reply #1489 on:** April 23, 2009, 06:07:50 pm »

Wait a second.... Has there even been any official word thats there's an anouncement tommorow?

lfctitch · « **Reply #1490 on:** April 23, 2009, 06:08:39 pm »

Quote from: 12Kings on April 23, 2009, 06:07:50 pm

Wait a second.... Has there even been any official word thats there's an anouncement tommorow?

No. It was a mistake I believe. After a poster on LFC.tv said there might be.

12Kings · « **Reply #1491 on:** April 23, 2009, 06:11:45 pm »

Quote from: lfctitch on April 23, 2009, 06:08:39 pm

No. It was a mistake I believe. After a poster on LFC.tv said there might be.

then this is all bollox... The End

shelovesyou · « **Reply #1492 on:** April 23, 2009, 06:13:44 pm »

Quote from: ttnbd on April 23, 2009, 06:03:08 pm

They are due but wouldn't have thought that would be the case. They didn't announce last years.

Would love to see last years accounts . . bet they quite revealing .

Billy1561 · « **Reply #1493 on:** April 23, 2009, 06:17:59 pm »

Quote from: 12Kings on April 23, 2009, 06:07:50 pm

Wait a second.... Has there even been any official word that's there's an announcement tomorrow?

Going around in circles a bit this thread now.. i believe a couple of ITK,s mentioned they had heard talk of a Friday announcement.
It's what i read and posted earlier anyhow. Nothing official

Lush is the best medicine... · « **Reply #1494 on:** April 23, 2009, 06:18:10 pm »

Quote from: shelovesyouyehyehyeh on April 23, 2009, 06:13:44 pm

Would love to see last years accounts . . bet they quite revealing .

cant you get them from companies house?

Billy1561 · « **Reply #1495 on:** April 23, 2009, 06:19:48 pm »

Quote from: ttnbd on April 23, 2009, 06:03:08 pm

They are due but wouldn't have thought that would be the case. They didn't announce last years.

Can they be seen by the public though from Companies house? Or do you have to be registered?

shelovesyou · « **Reply #1496 on:** April 23, 2009, 06:21:53 pm »

Quote from: Laughter is the best medicine... on April 23, 2009, 06:18:10 pm

cant you get them from companies house?

Yeh , I live just up the road from there actually , I wonder if I could just call in ? ?

ttnbd · « **Reply #1497 on:** April 23, 2009, 06:27:13 pm »

Quote from: shelovesyouyehyehyeh on April 23, 2009, 06:21:53 pm

Yeh , I live just up the road from there actually , I wonder if I could just call in ? ?

They are not available yet.

fry · « **Reply #1498 on:** April 23, 2009, 06:34:30 pm »

Quote from: shelovesyouyehyehyeh on April 23, 2009, 06:21:53 pm

Yeh , I live just up the road from there actually , I wonder if I could just call in ? ?

Goto reception and say fry sent you.

shelovesyou · « **Reply #1499 on:** April 23, 2009, 06:35:40 pm »

Quote from: ttnbd on April 23, 2009, 06:27:13 pm

They are not available yet.

I was thinking of last years accounts .

shelovesyou · « **Reply #1500 on:** April 23, 2009, 06:36:39 pm »

Quote from: fry on April 23, 2009, 06:34:30 pm

Goto reception and say fry sent you.

will do.

4pool · « **Reply #1501 on:** April 23, 2009, 06:47:05 pm »

Quote from: shelovesyouyehyehyeh on April 23, 2009, 06:35:40 pm

I was thinking of last years accounts .

Here you go as broken down by ttnbd. Bear in mind "last year" accounting reporting was for 2007, so this years will be for 2008:

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=220943.0

shelovesyou · « **Reply #1502 on:** April 23, 2009, 06:49:39 pm »

Quote from: 4pool on April 23, 2009, 06:47:05 pm

Here you go as broken down by ttnbd. Bear in mind "last year" accounting reporting was for 2007, so this years will be for 2008:

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=220943.0

Ah right , Cheers 4pool , I might of seen them already but thanks anyway .

PhilAnderer · « **Reply #1503 on:** April 23, 2009, 06:54:36 pm »

Quote from: Lyndsey_LFC on April 23, 2009, 05:39:17 pm

Cant be doing with this I have to pack for my hols tommorrow and go shopping FFS.

Can just see you on holiday in Dubai, spending half your time lobbying outside Sheikh Mo's house, with your 'Yanks Out' and 'One Dic Is Better Than Two' banners.

;-)

ali · « **Reply #1504 on:** April 23, 2009, 07:10:17 pm »

Quote from: maj on April 23, 2009, 02:39:58 pm

the debt is 410 million pounds appx and that includes interest. these 2have other debts alongside that.

that is horrendous maj, 3 days prior to the original financing in January 2008, Tony Barrett's article stated the debt at 278m

ttnbd · « **Reply #1505 on:** April 23, 2009, 07:11:32 pm »

Quote from: shelovesyouyehyehyeh on April 23, 2009, 06:35:40 pm

I was thinking of last years accounts .

Year ending july 2008 are not available yet (due in the next 5 weeks). year ending july 2007 I have in pdf if you want them.

fry · « **Reply #1506 on:** April 23, 2009, 07:11:37 pm »

Quote from: ali on April 23, 2009, 07:10:17 pm

that is horrendous maj, 3 days prior to the original financing in January 2008, Tony Barrett's article stated the debt at 278m

Did they not role up an interest payment of 33 mill along with players boought on other loans?

shelovesyou · « **Reply #1507 on:** April 23, 2009, 07:14:22 pm »

Quote from: ttnbd on April 23, 2009, 07:11:32 pm

Year ending july 2008 are not available yet (due in the next 5 weeks). year ending july 2007 I have in pdf if you want them.

If you dont mind mate , Id be greateful to you , Im no financial expert like but Id like to educate myself a bit more so cheers .

ttnbd · « **Reply #1508 on:** April 23, 2009, 07:15:56 pm »

Quote from: fry on April 23, 2009, 07:11:37 pm

Did they not role up an interest payment of 33 mill along with players boought on other loans?

At the refinancing I'm not sure. They drew down £245m at Kop Football Holdings level and £14.4m at club level. The £245m covered the debt that was showing as at 31 July 2007 on Kop Football Holdings Limited.

west_london_red · « **Reply #1509 on:** April 23, 2009, 07:16:09 pm »

Quote from: maj on April 23, 2009, 02:39:58 pm

the debt is 410 million pounds appx and that includes interest. these 2have other debts alongside that.

Wheres that figure come from?

west_london_red · « **Reply #1510 on:** April 23, 2009, 07:17:00 pm »

Quote from: ttnbd on April 23, 2009, 07:15:56 pm

At the refinancing I'm not sure. They drew down £245m at Kop Football Holdings level and £14.4m at club level. The £245m covered the debt that was showing as at 31 July 2007 on Kop Football Holdings Limited.

When do they legally have to publish the books by?

ttnbd · « **Reply #1511 on:** April 23, 2009, 07:17:02 pm »

Quote from: shelovesyouyehyehyeh on April 23, 2009, 07:14:22 pm

If you dont mind mate , Id be greateful to you , Im no financial expert like but Id like to educate myself a bit more so cheers .

pm me your email address and I'll send you them. (got accounts going back to 1985 if you're an insomniac

)

ttnbd · « **Reply #1512 on:** April 23, 2009, 07:18:16 pm »

Quote from: west_london_red on April 23, 2009, 07:17:00 pm

When do they legally have to publish the books by?

Filing date is 31 May 2009, any later and they get fined. The likes of the premier league and uefa will already have a copy as they require them by march to obtain relevant licences/go ahead for european competition I think.

west_london_red · « **Reply #1513 on:** April 23, 2009, 07:20:40 pm »

Quote from: ttnbd on April 23, 2009, 07:18:16 pm

Filing date is 31 May 2009, any later and they get fined. The likes of the premier league and uefa will already have a copy as they require them by march to obtain relevant licences/go ahead for european competition I think.

I was wondering if they were going to try and keep everything under wraps incase it doesnt look too good, but I guess thats not really an option if they will get fined.

shelovesyou · « **Reply #1514 on:** April 23, 2009, 07:20:44 pm »

Quote from: ttnbd on April 23, 2009, 07:17:02 pm

pm me your email address and I'll send you them. (got accounts going back to 1985 if you're an insomniac )

Done. Cheers.

fry · « **Reply #1515 on:** April 23, 2009, 07:21:48 pm »

Quote from: west_london_red on April 23, 2009, 07:20:40 pm

I was wondering if they were going to try and keep everything under wraps incase it doesnt look too good, but I guess thats not really an option if they will get fined.

depends what the fine is i guess. If its like a 20 grand fine it may be worth it to save face till the club is sold

chemeddy · « **Reply #1516 on:** April 23, 2009, 07:26:29 pm »

Can't fanthom why Moores and Parry messed us up so badly by accepting the Americans' bid without pepper checks.

ttnbd · « **Reply #1517 on:** April 23, 2009, 07:27:10 pm »

Quote from: fry on April 23, 2009, 07:21:48 pm

depends what the fine is i guess. If its like a 20 grand fine it may be worth it to save face till the club is sold

If they were going to do that they'd have done it last year.

fry · « **Reply #1518 on:** April 23, 2009, 07:28:09 pm »

Quote from: chemeddy on April 23, 2009, 07:26:29 pm

Can't fanthom why Moores and Parry messed us up so badly by accepting the Americans' bid without pepper checks.

it just puts salt in the wound

ttnbd · « **Reply #1519 on:** April 23, 2009, 07:30:32 pm »

Quote from: shelovesyouyehyehyeh on April 23, 2009, 07:20:44 pm

Done. Cheers.

on their way, would have put 2006s in there too but I seem to have an email provider that refuses to send emails larger in size than a couple of meg.