Topic: VAR! Video Assistant Referee & Shite Referees in General

[Hazell]

Gakpo hasn't half got Taylor out of the shit by not knocking that in you know

The fucker should've been stood down after Everton Forest and he's had another fucking stinker today 

Didn't pay much attention to it at the time but having seen it back, it looks pretty bad. Would love to hear the audio of it and Taylor's reasoning. I expect we'll get neither.

[rushyman]

Taylor actually looks at Ogbonna at one point when gakpos telling him as if to say 'look how awful he's being tell him'

The whistle didn't blow. It was open play, he blew the whistle for nothing

[rushyman]

Didn't pay much attention to it at the time but having seen it back, it looks pretty bad. Would love to hear the audio of it and Taylor's reasoning. I expect we'll get neither.

I've edited that version of what I said. He blew the whistle before Gakpo could finish it

[rushyman]

And then as the keeper was fine to carry on throwing the ball down for himself he actually takes it upon himself to bring on the physios

That's as bad as it fucking gets what the fuck

[Hazell]

I've edited that version of what I said. He blew the whistle before Gakpo could finish it

Yeah. It won't get much traction because Gakpo didn't put it in the net but its just as bad as the decisions against Man City, Arsenal and Tottenham. Big game changing decisions that refs have made this season. Some other teams have had it as well.

No doubt we'll get told refs are better than ever though and are getting 99% of decisions correct or something.

[GreatEx]

Ref Watch on Monday should be funny as fuck as that worm Gallagher tries to explain this one. He'll tie himself in knots defending his mate.

Has the incident even been mentioned in the UK press? I expect it'll never even make it to Dermot's desk.

[rushyman]

Was gonna say Dermot Gallagher will already be at work to explain this one

There's just no hiding place for this. But it's the golden boy of reffing he's having to talk about

Pulling a sickie is probably one of his options

[duvva 💅]

Another decent ref in tonight’s Championship game. Far better than the PL shite

[Bread]

And then as the keeper was fine to carry on throwing the ball down for himself he actually takes it upon himself to bring on the physios

Areola looked absolutely baffled by the whole thing. He was on the floor for a little bit initially after the catch which, fine, he's wasting time or whatever as goalies do but once he's stood up again, he's perfectly fine. I can only assume that Areola falsely believed that a free kick had been awarded which is why he doesn't move when Gakpo runs toward him because he didn't start feigning injury until Taylor told him to.

[rushyman]

Areola looked absolutely baffled by the whole thing. He was on the floor for a little bit initially after the catch which, fine, he's wasting time or whatever as goalies do but once he's stood up again, he's perfectly fine. I can only assume that Areola falsely believed that a free kick had been awarded which is why he doesn't move when Gakpo runs toward him because he didn't start feigning injury until Taylor told him to.

Taylor's face when Gakpo was telling him begging for help of Ogbonna is sickening

He's forced the keeper to play act. Told him to get on the floor nearly threw him over himself

That's the worst shit I've ever seen

[WhereAngelsPlay]

And then as the keeper was fine to carry on throwing the ball down for himself he actually takes it upon himself to bring on the physios

That's as bad as it fucking gets what the fuck

Way beyond, beyond.

[Coolie High]

Taylor's face when Gakpo was telling him begging for help of Ogbonna is sickening

He's forced the keeper to play act. Told him to get on the floor nearly threw him over himself

That's the worst shit I've ever seen

I can’t believe that they’re this inept, it doesn’t make sense.

[BoRed]

That Chelsea disallowed goal just now was apparently clear and obvious, and Doku on Macca wasn't.

[rob1966]

Taylor's face when Gakpo was telling him begging for help of Ogbonna is sickening

He's forced the keeper to play act. Told him to get on the floor nearly threw him over himself

That's the worst shit I've ever seen

Yeah you can see the confusion on his face, he's like "what the fuck are you calling the physios on for?"

[swoopy]

That Chelsea disallowed goal just now was apparently clear and obvious, and Doku on Macca wasn't.

The game is absolutely dead

[rushyman]

Jonathon pierce has just said he thinks the Gakpo incident was 'sensible all along'

😂😂😂

[JRed]

Jonathon pierce has just said he thinks the Gakpo incident was 'sensible all along'

😂😂😂

What is the point in being arsed about football anymore

They called it a howler and said the ref told keeper to go down to cover his mistake. No mention that it cost us the win tho. It’s just a messy situation caused by the refs mistake then move on.

[rushyman]

What is the point in being arsed about football anymore

Mate I'm not saying this to make a point

I really think I'm done now. We are clearly going to step back into what United have found themselves doing for a decade now. Without the money

Var is ruining huge moments. The game is over sanitised and the refereeing is appalling

I'm 47 now and just haven't got the energy to sit through the 90's again.

[rob1966]

Jonathon pierce has just said he thinks the Gakpo incident was 'sensible all along'

😂😂😂

The fucking fat c*nt

At least Wrighty has laid into Taylor and Shearer highlighted that Areola wasn't even injured so why the physios called on?

[rushyman]

I can't get over that Taylor shit

I've been out most of the day (refereeing ironically, if I'd done that I would be dropped for a week) so I've missed you all talking about it. That was so fucking corrupt, and I don't mean he was paid to do it or anything like that. I mean his game managenent. He told that keeper to get on with it, he waved play on and open play

He illegally blew the whistle, ran over to the keeper and nearly begged him to get on the floor for treatment after telling him to get up and get on with it and waving play on

Absolutely disgusting and he has to be dropped for next week. He'll be hauled up by assessment internally for that. A society so shrouded and defended from the media you'd think they were Masonic, so you'll hear nothing.

[slaphead]

I can't get over that Taylor shit

I've been out most of the day (refereeing ironically, if I'd done that I would be dropped for a week) so I've missed you all talking about it. That was so fucking corrupt, and I don't mean he was paid to do it or anything like that. I mean his game managenent. He told that keeper to get on with it, he waved play on and open play

He illegally blew the whistle, ran over to the keeper and nearly begged him to get on the floor for treatment after telling him to get up and get on with it and waving play on

Absolutely disgusting and he has to be dropped for next week. He'll be hauled up by assessment internally for that. A society so shrouded and defended from the media you'd think they were Masonic, so you'll hear nothing.

Same here, didn't see the game just heard something about an incident with Gakpo when I was driving home. Couldn't believe it when I seen it, especially the wider angle where Taylor waves play on, runs toward the middle of the pitch, sees Gakpo very smartly aware that the ball was loose and just looked like he wasn't having it.  How can you tell a player to play on, blow the whistle, then tell the player he's injured (despite the keeper looking to take the goal kick) and block him !  I definitey need a break from this football carry on, none of it makes sense anymore

[n00bert]

It is baffling. I am baffled.

[kopite77]

Another decent ref in tonight’s Championship game. Far better than the PL shite

It makes no difference if they're a decent Referee's in the Championship, I remember when Oliver and a few others started refereeing in the Premier League they were decent officials, but it's when they're promoted and the PGMOL and their Cronies get their corrupt claws into them they to become corrupted and it stinks mate.

[thejbs]

The official line is:

Taylor saw it as a foul (it wasn’t) and played the advantage. Then, when he saw the keeper needed treatment (he didn’t), he brought an end to the advantage so that the physio could come on. And apparently a dropped ball to the keeper was then the correct thing to do after that.

I mean, it’s clearly a load of shite, but that’s what we have to swallow (the metaphorical shite, that is, not literal shite)

[The North Bank]

Referee telling players to take a dive !

Just when you think youve seen it all

[Kekule]

The official line is:

Taylor saw it as a foul (it wasn’t) and played the advantage. Then, when he saw the keeper needed treatment (he didn’t), he brought an end to the advantage so that the physio could come on. And apparently a dropped ball to the keeper was then the correct thing to do after that.

I mean, it’s clearly a load of shite, but that’s what we have to swallow (the metaphorical shite, that is, not literal shite)

Taylor didn’t notice the guy was injured when he was standing only a few meters away from him, he only noticed when he was half a pitch away, having just that moment turned around? He was looking at the keeper and not Gakpo running onto a loose ball was he?

The goalkeeper wasn’t bleeding, so what, specifically, was it about the goalkeeper that Taylor realised was wrong and needed immediate attention?  If he can see internal/impact injuries through clothing and skin why does he not use these powers on players who try to continue after an injury and to stop them possibly causing more damage to themselves?  Or did he just develop this extra sensory perception in the last few days?

[JRed]

The official line is:

Taylor saw it as a foul (it wasn’t) and played the advantage. Then, when he saw the keeper needed treatment (he didn’t), he brought an end to the advantage so that the physio could come on. And apparently a dropped ball to the keeper was then the correct thing to do after that.

I mean, it’s clearly a load of shite, but that’s what we have to swallow (the metaphorical shite, that is, not literal shite)

It wouldn’t be a Liverpool game without a bit of gaslighting from the officials.
It’s enough to affect a persons mental health I’m stepping away from being so emotionally invested in the game as it’s just too much now, it’s actually insane what they are doing and the explanations they are giving

[BobPaisley3]

It wouldn’t be a Liverpool game without a bit of gaslighting from the officials.
It’s enough to affect a persons mental health I’m stepping away from being so emotionally invested in the game as it’s just too much now, it’s actually insane what they are doing and the explanations they are giving

General feeling at the club at the moment is one of exhaustion. Fighting this doesn’t seem appealing to anyone. Although you’re right, they’re lying in plain sight.

[JRed]

General feeling at the club at the moment is one of exhaustion. Fighting this doesn’t seem appealing to anyone. Although you’re right, they’re lying in plain sight.

Honestly, I’m starting to doubt what I’m seeing with my own eyes and thinking maybe the officials are right. So I know it’s time now.

[RedSince86]

We're never ever winning the League with Webb as Boss and Atkinson in charge hand picking Refs and VAR.

Seems like every 10 games we get Taylor 3 times. Tierney  and Kavanagh twice, Coote doing a game, then getting Kavanagh Tierney and Coote rotating doing VAR.

The amount of ridiculous decisions we've had go against us since Webb took charge is astounding.

[Fromola]

It wouldn’t be a Liverpool game without a bit of gaslighting from the officials.
It’s enough to affect a persons mental health I’m stepping away from being so emotionally invested in the game as it’s just too much now, it’s actually insane what they are doing and the explanations they are giving

Will always be the way with Webb. Ex-SYP he's all about arse covering and public relations. Let's get our story straight and justify the unjustifiable.  He's just brought the police culture into PGMOL.

That approach just makes things worse though. Riley just sat back and said and did nothing as standards plummeted, but the Webb approach has made things worse.

They need to sort the standards and accountability out across the board, not be focused on covering their own arses. VAR as well just makes everything 10 times worse.

[Legs]

It wouldn’t be a Liverpool game without a bit of gaslighting from the officials.
It’s enough to affect a persons mental health I’m stepping away from being so emotionally invested in the game as it’s just too much now, it’s actually insane what they are doing and the explanations they are giving

Its frustrating mate and as much as we are all invested in the club/game dont let it get to your mental health its just not worth it.

Footy is a release and something to enjoy but I see why you have said it as its clear rules/decisions are being made up could be worse imagine how Wolves feel if I was them id want a swift return to the championship.

Webb is a disgrace and only time ive watched him on that thing with Owen was to see how he explained Diaz goal....it was laughable really you'd think it was blokes down Red Lion running it not a billion pound industry.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Its frustrating mate and as much as we are all invested in the club/game dont let it get to your mental health its just not worth it.

Footy is a release and something to enjoy but I see why you have said it as its clear rules/decisions are being made up could be worse imagine how Wolves feel if I was them id want a swift return to the championship.

Webb is a disgrace and only time ive watched him on that thing with Owen was to see how he explained Diaz goal....it was laughable really you'd think it was blokes down Red Lion running it not a billion pound industry.

Footy isn't a release any more. It's as bent as fuck and you can't even celebrate a fucking goal any more.

Some fucking release.

[JRed]

Footy isn't a release any more. It's as bent as fuck and you can't even celebrate a fucking goal any more.

Some fucking release.

Definitely. It’s adding to life stress rather than being a distraction now.

[Elzar]

Surely the clubs have to demand PGMOL changes leadership and rethinks completely.

How can we go every weekend and 50% of games have the referee’s making howlers, players furious, clubs releasing statements, and the clubs not all come together and do something.

Whatever that was yesterday was an utter farce and the club should yet again be asking for microphone recordings and a full explanation.

[cptrios]

Surely PGMOL won’t have any problem releasing the audio. Right? Right?

[smicer07]

I long for the days when, after a goal, you just had a quick glance at the linesman before celebrating.

[red_Mark1980]

The official line is:

Taylor saw it as a foul (it wasn’t) and played the advantage. Then, when he saw the keeper needed treatment (he didn’t), he brought an end to the advantage so that the physio could come on. And apparently a dropped ball to the keeper was then the correct thing to do after that.

I mean, it’s clearly a load of shite, but that’s what we have to swallow (the metaphorical shite, that is, not literal shite)

Has that been officially released anywhere?

[Andy @ Allerton!]

I long for the days when, after a goal, you just had a quick glance at the linesman before celebrating.

Does seem like decades ago now

[Terry de Niro]

Surely PGMOL won’t have any problem releasing the audio. Right? Right?

Taylor to the keeper - "I fucked up, pretend you're injured"