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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2800 on: April 24, 2024, 08:33:44 am »
Can they afford to sack him with PSR issues? Or have they found a few more hotels to sell and Barcelona style economic levers to pull?

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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2801 on: April 24, 2024, 08:39:10 am »
For a few years they looked like they’re nose diving but then would bounce back and win something big. This time its terminal. They are done. It’s beautiful to see, hopefully city end up the same way.

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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2802 on: April 24, 2024, 08:40:37 am »
Can they afford to sack him with PSR issues? Or have they found a few more hotels to sell and Barcelona style economic levers to pull?

He'll be included in the Millenium and Copthorne Hotels sale where he will take up a new position as doorman.
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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2803 on: April 24, 2024, 08:43:21 am »
I long for Chelsea’s return to lower mid table irrelevance..maybe they’ll start parking cars behind the goal again.

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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2804 on: April 24, 2024, 10:27:13 am »
I think that defeat to Man City really knocked the wind out of them, particularly as it was a game they should have won comfortably.  They had been in (relatively) good form up to that game and looked good throughout most of it.

Just the fight for sixth place and Europa League to motivate them now.  Villa and Spurs next look like two losses for them.

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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2805 on: April 24, 2024, 10:35:59 am »
That was fucking embarassing last night, and it just shows that FFP/PSR is definitely having an impact or Pooch would have been sacked by now.

Btw where were Palmer and Gusto last night? They were about the only 2 Chelsea players showing any form these days. How do Arsenal keep dodging bullets like this?  :butt

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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2806 on: April 24, 2024, 10:44:02 am »
Odds on them going straight for Amorim after they sack Pochettino

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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2807 on: April 24, 2024, 10:45:59 am »
Odds on them going straight for Amorim after they sack Pochettino
Fairly high I'd say.

Expect they'll agree for Poch to "quit" and pay his severance off the books.
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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2808 on: April 24, 2024, 10:46:17 am »
From The Guardian
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Mudryk-Madueke-Jackson-Gallagher. This is a strange human soup, disparate parts, human talent as amortised numbers. We are the stuffed men. We are the hollow men. We are the Chelsea midfield. Imagine not beating this Chelsea team 5-0.

In a way it was refreshing. There is so much heavy systems football around. How liberating to see a team with no plan whatsoever. At one point Enzo Fernández carried the ball forward 30 yards, then just seemed to run out of bandwidth, stopping then starting again, visibly confused. Conor Gallagher’s only real job early on was to sprint in and stand in front of every Arsenal free‑kick. Well, it’s a living.

Talent has been hoarded here. But why? This is the question Chelsea seem to ask with every sideways pass, every shrugging restart. There is a serious drop off in quality in this Chelsea team without Cole Palmer and Malo Gusto. One odd thing about the 18-month mega-splurge was the narrow range of talent. Chelsea bought a lot of deeply room-temperature footballers. All filler no killer. This is our DNA now: the yeah-maybe player.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/apr/23/chelsea-arsenal-football-premier-league
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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2809 on: April 24, 2024, 10:54:43 am »
From The Guardian

Oooof - beautifully put.

Hopefully, the toxic virus from previous generations has spread too far into this club's DNA now.
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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2810 on: April 24, 2024, 10:57:08 am »
Fucking bums.

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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2811 on: April 24, 2024, 05:28:40 pm »
There are not enough hotels in the world that will save this football team

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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2812 on: April 24, 2024, 06:39:56 pm »
I long for Chelsea’s return to 2nd division irrelevance..maybe they’ll start parking cars behind the goal again.

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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2814 on: April 26, 2024, 12:12:53 am »
To the surprise of no one. John Terry's an absolute dickhead.

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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2815 on: May 7, 2024, 01:46:01 pm »
Signing another 17 year old Brazilian for £30m.

FFP needs to get them.
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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2816 on: May 8, 2024, 10:45:36 pm »
Signing another 17 year old Brazilian for £30m.

FFP needs to get them.

Why don't we make signings like this? Him and Endrick are almost no brainers....

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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2817 on: May 8, 2024, 10:55:29 pm »
We've been linked to Luis Guilherme who plays for Palmeiras.  :D

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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2818 on: May 8, 2024, 11:07:56 pm »
We've been linked to Luis Guilherme who plays for Palmeiras.  :D

We won't sign him and i think Estevao is rated as the biggest talent in Brazil apart from Endrick.

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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2819 on: May 9, 2024, 09:21:50 am »
Why don't we make signings like this? Him and Endrick are almost no brainers....

Signing a 17-year old from Brazil who has made only 14 senior appearance for £30 million is a no brainer?
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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2820 on: May 9, 2024, 01:19:08 pm »
Signing a 17-year old from Brazil who has made only 14 senior appearance for £30 million is a no brainer?

Yep, if they have the level of talent that the likes of Neymar, Rodrygo, Vinicius Jr, Endrick have possessed. In recent years I think only Reinier Jesus has been a fail when buying Brazilian talent for that type of fee.

Estevao seems to have less experience than all those names mentioned to be fair but I would like to see us be more proactive in signing some of the biggest talents in South America.
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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2821 on: May 9, 2024, 02:34:16 pm »
Yep, if they have the level of talent that the likes of Neymar, Rodrygo, Vinicius Jr, Endrick have possessed. In recent years I think only Reinier Jesus has been a fail when buying Brazilian talent for that type of fee.

Estevao seems to have less experience than all those names mentioned to be fair but I would like to see us be more proactive in signing some of the biggest talents in South America.

Friendly bet, they'll both be playing in the Netherlands, Austria or a league of a similar standard in 4 years time

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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2822 on: May 9, 2024, 02:42:11 pm »
Yep, if they have the level of talent that the likes of Neymar, Rodrygo, Vinicius Jr, Endrick have possessed. In recent years I think only Reinier Jesus has been a fail when buying Brazilian talent for that type of fee.

Estevao seems to have less experience than all those names mentioned to be fair but I would like to see us be more proactive in signing some of the biggest talents in South America.

Yep. It completely depends on the club too. The likes of Vinicius, Rodrygo and later Endrick were all signed with the sole intention of eventually playing in the side, Chelsea have always gone for players like that so nobody else could have them.

Endrick will no doubt go straight into their side, look the business, and define the side for a generation alongside Bellingham, Mbappe etc.
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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2823 on: May 9, 2024, 04:03:06 pm »
Speaking at a Sportico conference in Los Angeles on Wednesday, Boehly said: "We've seen the last two and a half games... in the second half at Aston Villa [2-2 draw] and Tottenham [2-0 win] and West Ham [5-0 win] where we played beautiful football.

"It was so fluid, it was exactly the way we drew it up, when we came out of the back, built up and moved up the pitch, [it was] very organised and the number of shots we had.

"In those two and a half games, you could really start to see what we were working on coming together."
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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2825 on: May 9, 2024, 04:21:37 pm »
Honestly, one of the best things about John W Henry is he keeps his mouth shut
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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2826 on: May 9, 2024, 05:33:24 pm »
Cruyff: "Victory is not enough, there also needs to be beautiful football."

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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2827 on: Yesterday at 03:43:02 pm »
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'Abramovich loans fund owner of Dutch football club, leaked documents suggest':-

Files indicate oligarch enabled Valery Oyf to take over Vitesse Arnhem, raising fresh questions about his influence on football

www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/may/10/roman-abramovich-loans-fund-dutch-football-club-vitesse-arnhem-valery-oyf


'The owner of a leading Dutch football club has funded it with loans from Roman Abramovich, leaked documents suggest, fuelling questions about the continued influence the Russian oligarch, under sanctions from the EU and UK, still has on football.

Details of the arrangement involving Valery Oyf, who took over ownership of Vitesse Arnhem in 2018, have been uncovered by the Guardian and the Bureau of Investigative Journalism (TBIJ).

The papers raise questions about whether Abramovich, the former owner of Chelsea FC, is still involved with a European club despite being subject to sanctions in the wake of Russia’s attack on Ukraine.

They have emerged three weeks after the Dutch football association (KNVB) deducted Vitesse 18 points for breaching its licensing regulations, officially confirming their relegation from the Eredivisie, the Netherlands’ top flight.

The KNVB started investigating Vitesse after reporting by the Guardian and TBIJ uncovered apparent financial ties between the club and Abramovich involving the club’s two previous owners. The KNVB said the club had been given a record sanction because of repeated breaches of licensing rules and withholding information.

It added that there were “indications” that Abramovich, the former owner of Chelsea had controlled, or still controlled, the club and that there are risks of violation of ­sanctions and money laundering.'

^ more in the linked article.







'Geopolitics comes to Vitesse: how ‘Chelsea B’ were swallowed by Abramovich associates':-

Fans of the Eredivisie club hoped takeovers would transform their fortunes, but instead they face an existential threat to their future

www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/may/10/geopolitics-vitesse-arnhem-chelsea-b-roman-abramovich-associates


^ from The Grauniad's 'Oligarch files' - www.theguardian.com/world/series/oligarch-files

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