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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #240 on: October 11, 2016, 12:25:50 pm »
so how long will he be out for?

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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #241 on: October 11, 2016, 12:50:32 pm »


I much prefer 'Wino'.

He can get his own nickname!
It looks to me as if we have signed another 'average' player. I'll hold back my complete opinion until I see the lad play

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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #242 on: October 11, 2016, 12:51:30 pm »
milner, grujic, can, lucas, stewart, brannagan should all be able to cover, i think we will be fine. shame all the same.
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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #244 on: October 11, 2016, 01:02:26 pm »
''He told me during HT he felt his hamstring. He couldn't finish the game.''

So you carried on playing him? Dick.

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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #245 on: October 11, 2016, 01:12:26 pm »
Coutinho probably will drop into midfield, with either Can or Lallana with Hendo then. Shame about Gino. Looked like he was just about to get comfortable.

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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #246 on: October 11, 2016, 01:44:45 pm »
Bound to happen to at least one player. Internationals suck. Thankfully we've lost plenty of individuals at different times this season and it's not been noticeable.  With the arguable exception of Mane. Hopefully no one else gets broken.

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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #247 on: October 11, 2016, 01:45:44 pm »
Let's hope Gini isn't out too long with this setback. He was really hitting his groove.

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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #248 on: October 11, 2016, 02:00:03 pm »
Thank you international break  :butt.

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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #249 on: October 11, 2016, 02:38:12 pm »
''He told me during HT he felt his hamstring. He couldn't finish the game.''

So you carried on playing him? Dick.


If that's a genuine quote from the manager it's simply irresponsible. Surely as a player too you'd say I'm coming off?

As others have said its a blow but that's why we have a squad. All ready to play and maintain a level too.

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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #250 on: October 11, 2016, 04:15:35 pm »

If that's a genuine quote from the manager it's simply irresponsible. Surely as a player too you'd say I'm coming off?

As others have said its a blow but that's why we have a squad. All ready to play and maintain a level too.
F##king disgrace if true, and his son plays for the team were playing next.

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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #251 on: October 13, 2016, 09:16:38 am »
F##king disgrace if true, and his son plays for the team were playing next.

Seriously, it probably went like this: "Boss my hamstring feels a bit tight."
"Okay Gini, do you need to come off or do you want to try and run it off?"
"I'll give it a try"
"Give us a signal if you need to come off".

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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #252 on: October 13, 2016, 09:25:05 am »
Seriously, it probably went like this: "Boss my hamstring feels a bit tight."
"Okay Gini, do you need to come off or do you want to try and run it off?"
"I'll give it a try"
"Give us a signal if you need to come off".

Was lying on the ground in pain the signal?  and you never run off a hamstring pull.

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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #253 on: October 13, 2016, 08:05:42 pm »
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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #254 on: October 13, 2016, 08:17:25 pm »
Hip hip hooray!
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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #255 on: October 13, 2016, 08:19:41 pm »
Hip hip hooray!
We've got plenty of decent cover for him in that position, so if he's not quite ready, then there's no hip hip hurry.
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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #256 on: October 13, 2016, 08:42:16 pm »
Great news!

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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #257 on: October 13, 2016, 09:07:06 pm »
Fit to start or to play a part off the bench?

If the former I'd love to see how he fairs with Henderson and Can alongside him. That's a mouthwatering midfield trio. One that would cope better with United's aerial threat on set pieces.

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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #258 on: October 13, 2016, 09:16:10 pm »
In my view he is more important than lallana. coutinho can move into Lallana's position but there isn't anyone with a similar skillset for Wijnaldum's role.

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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #259 on: October 13, 2016, 09:17:26 pm »
In my view he is more important than lallana. coutinho can move into Lallana's position but there isn't anyone with a similar skillset for Wijnaldum's role.

Milner can play a similar role, no?

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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #260 on: October 13, 2016, 09:20:44 pm »
In my view he is more important than lallana. coutinho can move into Lallana's position but there isn't anyone with a similar skillset for Wijnaldum's role.
Seriously, he hasn't become that expendable yet.

There's plenty of options if he's out.
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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #261 on: October 13, 2016, 10:17:23 pm »
In my view he is more important than lallana. coutinho can move into Lallana's position but there isn't anyone with a similar skillset for Wijnaldum's role.

Don't agree he's more important than Lallana but opinions hey?

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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #262 on: October 13, 2016, 10:48:36 pm »
Milner can play a similar role, no?

He'd be the last player of the midfielders I'd want to see there.  I always thought last season our problem in midfield had a lot to do with them just being too slow and ponderous using the ball. And Milner was included in that group of midfielders. That is why Gini has made such a difference, he just keeps the ball moving, he's quick of mind and feet.

Plus, Milner needs to stay just where he is, doing a fantastic job at left back.

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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #263 on: October 13, 2016, 11:00:22 pm »
Don't agree he's more important than Lallana but opinions hey?
Lallana might be the more influential player but we have proper cover for him in Coutinho. But none of our players can be highly mobile, keep the shape and work through tight spaces like Wijnaldum does in that deeper role. Putting Coutinho so deep would be silly and there isn't really anyone else who could tick all of those boxes. We lose quite a lot, whoever we put in wijnaldum's spot.

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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #264 on: October 14, 2016, 01:05:44 am »
Lallana might be the more influential player but we have proper cover for him in Coutinho. But none of our players can be highly mobile, keep the shape and work through tight spaces like Wijnaldum does in that deeper role. Putting Coutinho so deep would be silly and there isn't really anyone else who could tick all of those boxes. We lose quite a lot, whoever we put in wijnaldum's spot.

I think we can probably get away with using Can there for this game. Wijnaldum's key attributes for the role are agility, mobility and positional intelligence, which help us to break a press and gives us another player going forward who's a threat via passing, runs into the box and finishing. In short, we have a great two-way player.

I don't think we need a two way player as much against United at home. I expect Mourinho to be parking the bus, so I can't see us being pressed nearly as much as we would be against another team, like Spurs or City. That means Can will hopefully have a bit more freedom and time to receive the ball from the CBs or Henderson, and make his driving runs deep into the United half, which is his strength, without having to worry as much about losing it in our half.

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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #265 on: October 14, 2016, 02:09:37 am »
Lallana might be the more influential player but we have proper cover for him in Coutinho. But none of our players can be highly mobile, keep the shape and work through tight spaces like Wijnaldum does in that deeper role. Putting Coutinho so deep would be silly and there isn't really anyone else who could tick all of those boxes. We lose quite a lot, whoever we put in wijnaldum's spot.
Coutinho can do what Lallana does on the ball and more but I'm not sure he can do what Lallana off the ball. There's a reason Klopp calls Lallana his hunter and why he leads the press.

Henderson could easily fill the position Wijnaldum is currently playing and Can can come in and fill the position Henderson has been playing, we wouldn't be losing anything.
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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #266 on: October 14, 2016, 03:51:01 am »
Coutinho can do what Lallana does on the ball and more but I'm not sure he can do what Lallana off the ball. There's a reason Klopp calls Lallana his hunter and why he leads the press.

Henderson could easily fill the position Wijnaldum is currently playing and Can can come in and fill the position Henderson has been playing, we wouldn't be losing anything.

Henderson is a good deal more disciplined and better at passing than Can. We'd lose that from the DM position if Henderson filled in for Wijnaldum.

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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #267 on: October 14, 2016, 04:08:42 am »
Henderson is a good deal more disciplined and better at passing than Can. We'd lose that from the DM position if Henderson filled in for Wijnaldum.
"A good deal more disciplined" - not sure that's true at all.

We haven't kept a clean sheet in the league yet and have conceded 10-goals. Obviously this can't all down to Henderson but with Can in that position last season we were regularly keeping clean sheets.

I'd say Can will make us tighter at the back while Henderson would be in his best position.
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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #268 on: October 14, 2016, 10:05:50 am »
Coutinho can do what Lallana does on the ball and more but I'm not sure he can do what Lallana off the ball. There's a reason Klopp calls Lallana his hunter and why he leads the press.

Henderson could easily fill the position Wijnaldum is currently playing and Can can come in and fill the position Henderson has been playing, we wouldn't be losing anything.
It's true that Coutinho won't press as well as Lallana but he played there in 13/14 quite succesfully and he can maintain possession and the high tempo.

henderson's issue in that role compared with Wijnaldum is that he can't turn on the ball and doesn't have the same ability to wriggle out of tight spaces. This is partly why he has looked so good in the deeper role.

Nonetheless I think it's right what Redcap says, that united might sit back and this may allow Can to play there instead without too much loss of quality.

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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #269 on: October 14, 2016, 10:25:26 am »
I cant see Henderson moving out of the position he has done well in recently, Can is quite capable of taking Gini's place

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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #270 on: October 14, 2016, 01:02:10 pm »
It's true that Coutinho won't press as well as Lallana but he played there in 13/14 quite succesfully and he can maintain possession and the high tempo.

henderson's issue in that role compared with Wijnaldum is that he can't turn on the ball and doesn't have the same ability to wriggle out of tight spaces. This is partly why he has looked so good in the deeper role.

Nonetheless I think it's right what Redcap says, that united might sit back and this may allow Can to play there instead without too much loss of quality.
If you're going to mention how well Coutinho played in CM in 13/14 you can't then say Henderson can't play there considering how well he done in that position in 13/14 also.
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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #271 on: October 14, 2016, 01:45:37 pm »
I cant see Henderson moving out of the position he has done well in recently, Can is quite capable of taking Gini's place

Think it'll be Henderson because of his engine.
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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #272 on: October 14, 2016, 03:21:55 pm »
Think it'll be Henderson because of his engine.

Its like moving Milner from left back to midfield, he won't because its worked so well previously

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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #273 on: October 14, 2016, 03:51:35 pm »
Its like moving Milner from left back to midfield, he won't because its worked so well previously

You're just tweaking the midfield, though, so that analogy doesn't really work. Can is the least mobile of Lallana, Hendo and Gini, so I expect him to feature just in front of the defence. We'll see anyway.
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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #274 on: October 14, 2016, 04:02:15 pm »
''He told me during HT he felt his hamstring. He couldn't finish the game.''

So you carried on playing him? Dick.

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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #275 on: October 14, 2016, 04:37:21 pm »
You're just tweaking the midfield, though, so that analogy doesn't really work. Can is the least mobile of Lallana, Hendo and Gini, so I expect him to feature just in front of the defence. We'll see anyway.

we shall see indeed, personally I would leave Henderson based on his current form in that position but I see what you are saying

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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #276 on: October 17, 2016, 10:33:13 pm »
For me, today just showed how important it is for us to sign a genuine backup to this guy and Lallana, and now I understand the interest in Dahoud over a defensive midfielder. He would have really helped us to pass through the midfield.

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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #277 on: October 17, 2016, 10:33:58 pm »
For me, today just showed how important it is for us to sign a genuine backup to this guy and Lallana, and now I understand the interest in Dahoud over a defensive midfielder. He would have really helped us to pass through the midfield.

Good point, hope we go back for him in January

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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #278 on: October 17, 2016, 10:34:55 pm »
For me, today just showed how important it is for us to sign a genuine backup to this guy and Lallana, and now I understand the interest in Dahoud over a defensive midfielder. He would have really helped us to pass through the midfield.
Today really showed how important Gini and Lallana are for our build-up play. I know there were a few chunks of games where we struggled with them two but once they get going they do things so much quicker than our midfield tonight.
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Re: Georginio Wijnaldum
« Reply #279 on: October 17, 2016, 10:45:36 pm »
Missed him tonight.

Hope he back for Saturday.