Topic: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation

[spider-neil]

Given the comments made about him, the people deemed unlikely or ruled out, and the data analytical approach, I think it's going to be Thomas Frank

Thomas Frank? Please, no.

[redbyrdz]

very common these days for “Private” jets to have fractional ownership. You can own a share in a jet or just rent usage of a jet. So good chance it’s not owned by West Ham or us.
I also think West Ham don’t really need to keep quiet about interviewing Amorim (if they are sacking Moyes), whereas we have Klopp’s leaving to respect and typically Edwards et al keep stum about such things.
So no reason that this isn’t the first chance Amorim has had to do some interviews, including West Ham (who are not “hiding” this) and possibly also ourselves.

That's a bit the wrong way round I think. Surely we are more likely to conduct open interviews than West Ham. Klopp leaving is a fact, but Moyes hasn't been sacked yet.


I do agree though that Amorim might be having more than one interview, West Ham were maybe just more prepared to actually bring him over, while other clubs may have just been talking online.

[spider-neil]

The Portuguese journo was adamant the interview wasn't with just WH and the British journos have said Amorim isn't the only manager on the shortlist. So don't rule out Amorim just yet.

[Zlen]

That tweet that Edwards and Hughes aren't afraid to make an unpopular but brave decision is really worrying.

a) They know the decision will be unpopular
b) They consider the decision to be brave and reading between the lines 'brave' means a gamble

Nothing worrying about it for me. They have infinitely more information than any of us, journalists, pundits combined. They know how to interpret and put data to good use. They have a more intimate understanding of how they see the club evolving and what the new structure will be like in practice - we don't. Every single available option will be a gamble anyway, there is no sure thing in football. Even Klopp was seen as a gamble up to a point, having never managed the club of our size when he took over. Unless they hire someone who is a proven asshole - all the others are very much in the same tier and the selection is best left to those who know more.

[Caps4444]

That tweet that Edwards and Hughes aren't afraid to make an unpopular but brave decision is really worrying.

a) They know the decision will be unpopular
b) They consider the decision to be brave and reading between the lines 'brave' means a gamble

So Jason Tindall to be first team manager?

[Stockholm Syndrome]

The Portuguese journo was adamant the interview wasn't with just WH and the British journos have said Amorim isn't the only manager on the shortlist. So don't rule out Amorim just yet.

The Portuguese journo I believe is chatting wham and using the big Liverpool connection to get views and clicks

[Irishred1]

A lot of these journalists proved during the transfer window that they have as much information as us ie 0.

[spider-neil]

The Portuguese journo I believe is chatting wham and using the big Liverpool connection to get views and clicks

So you think Amorim is no longer a possibility?

[Stockholm Syndrome]

Thomas Frank? Please, no.

It does feel a bit Ferguson to Moyes

[Stockholm Syndrome]

So you think Amorim is no longer a possibility?

Unlikely yeah

[alonsoisared]

Gerrard should genuinely be above some of the names here IMO, especially the British ones.

He'd be far behind Emery for example but of the British coaches he's the only one with experience of taking a team expected to compete for a title and win it, unbeaten no less, as well as having a really good record in Europe.

It's not going to be him, just throwing it out there

[spider-neil]

I really wish Klopp would change his mind but he looks visibly drained. You see it with him sitting down now and his celebrations. Everything is subdued now.

[Qston]

There isn't a manager on the planet who'd stay at Villa if offered the Liverpool job

I don`t particularly want Emery, but I don`t agree with you. A former player managing in an inferior league has is essence taken the view he wants to have a crack at the CL with his current team and has effectively ruled himself out. What makes you think that if Emery finishes top 4 with Villa he wouldn`t take the same view ?

[Stockholm Syndrome]

A lot of these journalists proved during the transfer window that they have as much information as us ie 0.

I mean Ornstein was right about most deals - Bellingham not coming months before anyone else, got Szoboszlai news right, was the first to get Endo news I believe.

[Kalito]

What about Andy Hinchcliffe ?

Leeds winning 4-3 and he has said it time and again go over the top to Middlesbrough and they score.

He knows his stuff this guy does he appeals as he has never lost a game as a manager too.

One miserable know-it-all c*nt that prick.

[jillcwhomever]

It does feel a bit Ferguson to Moyes

If this going to be the attitude then no one stands a chance. We have to be prepared to get behind whoever gets the job. Also, none of us know how it will go, suppose the person exceeds expectations? Unless you give people a chance who knows what they are capable of?

[Stockholm Syndrome]

I don`t particularly want Emery, but I don`t agree with you. A former player managing in an inferior league has is essence taken the view he wants to have a crack at the CL with his current team and has effectively ruled himself out. What makes you think that if Emery finishes top 4 with Villa he wouldn`t take the same view ?

Said manager has less experience so wants to learn more, and is young enough that he knows he has an exciting career ahead of him, and likely has his choice of 3 top jobs at some point in his career. He also likely already has a route to arguably to some the biggest job in world football in a year, with Real Madrid.

That is compared to Emery who is older and this could quite possibly be his last chance at a real top job, an opportunity which may completely pass him by and not offered again due to his past falls at Arsenal.

[Stockholm Syndrome]

If this going to be the attitude then no one stands a chance. We have to be prepared to get behind whoever gets the job. Also, none of us know how it will go, suppose the person exceeds expectations? Unless you give people a chance who knows what they are capable of?

Who says I am not giving him a chance, Christ he's not even the manager yet and may not be. Once anyone comes in they have  a chance. But let's be real here, not many people would be declaring it a great hit of business going from Klopp to Frank, I don't believe he would be anyone's first choice, and not many peoples second choice either

[djschembri]

I dont get how most fans were clamouring for Edwards return, clamouring for a return to the data-driven approach but at the first opportunity of them possibly taking that route to choose the manager, are chomping at the bits.

All we have learnt in the past 24 hours was that Amorim is now not likely anymore. No new name has come up and nothing to indicate the decision that they will take.

[Bangin Them In]

All sounds quite agent publicly negotiating a huge contract stuff
There’s other options available to our client so get the cash out

[spider-neil]

I wonder if Edwards and Hughes have looked at the make up of our squad and transitioning to 3-4-3 potentially will require a huge (expensive) turnover of players.

[jillcwhomever]

Who says I am not giving him a chance, Christ he's not even the manager yet and may not be. Once anyone comes in they have  a chance. But let's be real here, not many people would be declaring it a great hit of business going from Klopp to Frank, I don't believe he would be anyone's first choice, and not many peoples second choice either

Why do you keep mentioning all these particular people when you don't even know they are on the list? None of us have a clue so discussing the likes of Frank, Howe are a total waste of time anyway.

[Wool]

RAWK managerial don’ts:

- Skateboard
- Be bald
- Have spiky hair

Have I missed anything?

[Clint Eastwood]

I think someone like Hansi Flick would be brave and popular. Not someone who was on the radar but a winner of a CL for Bayern.

One good year in management at the age of 59. Doesn't get me going.

Reckon the next manager is almost definitely going to be below the age of 45. Unfortunately De Zerbi is 44.

[Musketeer Gripweed]

RAWK managerial don’ts:

- Skateboard
- Be bald
- Have spiky hair

Have I missed anything?

Have Jason Tindall as his assistant.

[killer-heels]

RAWK managerial don’ts:

- Skateboard
- Be bald
- Have spiky hair

Have I missed anything?

Slot is really bald. There is bald and then there is Arno Slot bald.

[Fromola]

I mean if we want him and don't get him because of West Ham that's a big problem

I think the briefing is exactly what it is, he isn't our first choice

I think there is also a degree of him being the favorite so people built him as the ideal perfect candidate, and now it isn't him there's very real backlash based on the perception of him we made because we thought he was coming in

Is he not first choice because someone else is though or because we haven't got one yet? That's the thing.

Amorim if nothing else will keep his options open, rather than wait for an offer he might not get.

[Stockholm Syndrome]

Why do you keep mentioning all these particular people when you don't even know they are on the list? None of us have a clue so discussing the likes of Frank, Howe are a total waste of time anyway.

Frank has been talked about - he has been mentioned a number of times as someone we think very highly of.

If you exclude Alonso, De Zerbi, and Amorim, the list of managers we have actively been linked with/discussed as a possibility are:

Frank
Fonseca
Motta
Roger Schmidt

I think Marco Rose maybe as well but from a not brilliant source

Hoeneß has also been discussed in that he is similar style to us but not really linked

I can either mention and infer from the people mentioned as possibilities from reliable sources, or I can say I know no one can be reliably linked of discredited and it can be literally anyone

With the names mentioned and the comments made, and if you look at the above list, I don't think it's a crazy guess to now think it is Frank.

Howe I haven't mentioned seriously, it won't be him. But he is the exception in that I won't be able to back him as manager, due to his behavior as Newcastle manager, and due to the old boys club concern that would come from Hughes/Edwards/Howe coming together. But I can very confidently say that won't happen

[Stockholm Syndrome]

Is he not first choice because someone else is though or because we haven't got one yet? That's the thing.

Amorim if nothing else will keep his options open, rather than wait for an offer he might not get.

I think it is because someone else is. Or at the very least he isn't in the final shortlist

I think him being ruled out either means we have our final shortlist and he is not on it, or we have our primary target and it isn't him

[Fromola]

I think it is because someone else is. Or at the very least he isn't in the final shortlist

I think him being ruled out either means we have our final shortlist and he is not on it, or we have our primary target and it isn't him

Ideally, we'd keep it under wraps until the end of the season anyway, or at least while in with a title chance. It's a distraction otherwise. That's why Amorim was partly assumed as he's got his own title race to focus on.

But it's hard to think nothing would be leaked, especially if we have our main target contracted to another club. If there was any contact with Amorim then it was picked up on in Portugal and a lot of noise made of it, until Amorim himself had to shut it down and refuse to comment about his future.

[Draex]

I dont get how most fans were clamouring for Edwards return, clamouring for a return to the data-driven approach but at the first opportunity of them possibly taking that route to choose the manager, are chomping at the bits.

All we have learnt in the past 24 hours was that Amorim is now not likely anymore. No new name has come up and nothing to indicate the decision that they will take.

Yep and there is going to be a long list of requirements, I'd imagine top of the list is someone who doesn't want the same level of power Klopp had at the end of his time here, it burnt Klopp out, Klopp is a unicorn you bend the structure for him but I doubt FSG will do that again especially from the off for a new manager.

[Sonofthewind]

Everybody’s going to be confused when the rumours of O’Neil start gathering pace only for it it to be Martin not Gary.

[Historical Fool]

Brave and unpopular - Mourinho
Brave and unpopular - O'Neill

Actually, who wouldn't be considered a brave and unpopular appointment

Benitez
Rodgers
Simeone

[Funkster]

Hopefully this doesn’t go tits up. This time next year the next super thread could be ‘Edwards out’ …

[Funkster]

Where is this Rodger’s link arising from??? Not in a million years of Sundays imo.

[Fromola]

Where is this Rodger’s link arising from??? Not in a million years of Sundays imo.

No love lost between him and Edwards.

[Pistolero]

Amorim still my first choice....Pochettino my second - surprised he hasn't been mentioned more? while pipsqueaks like Frank, O'Neil, De Zerbi and Howe have... excellent manager, knows the Premier League, not a knobhead...and I think he'd get us.....his job interview starts tonight....

[[new username under construction]]

You'd think someone at the club would sit down with the Captain and Vice and ask them what they think about playing under someone like Frank, De Zebre etc, wonder how many would be out the door if Howe came in

[Funkster]

Amorim still my first choice....Pochettino my second - surprised he hasn't been mentioned more? while pipsqueaks like Frank, O'Neil, De Zerbi and Howe have... excellent manager, knows the Premier League, not a knobhead...and I think he'd get us.....his job interview starts tonight....

Potch has just spent a billion quid and they are still shit ffs.

[MD1990]

Potch has just spent a billion quid and they are still shit ffs.

he hasnt spend that money in fairness