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Chancellor dishing the dosh for hospitality

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news

[Wabaloolah]

Day six of having this cough, although it’s not as bad as it was over the weekend. Still yet to find out whether we are positive or not - hopefully we get the text today. Have a feeling we’ll be back in lockdown by the time our isolation ends.

I very much doubt there'll be another lockdown, at least not in the sense of the ones we've had before, there will probably be some additional restrictions, think hospitality will be restricted, rule of six again and masks when moving around but Johnson cannot afford politically a lockdown so will resist unless the number of infections and hospitalisations are off the scale.

Hope you feel better soon, by the way.

I've had a cough for weeks now, LFTs and PCR all negative, hopefully yours will be the same and it's just the usual winter cold/cough that you can get at this time of the year

[PaulF]

Its certainly affecting my moods and my anger issues when I'm out, especially when we cut through the Trafford Centre yesterday and it was packed out with non mask wearers and security where stood there like fucking mannequins.

While people can just say 'i have a medical exemption', I don't see any point in security getting involved. Shit I know. But there it is.

[Musketeer Gripweed]

Its certainly affecting my moods and my anger issues when I'm out, especially when we cut through the Trafford Centre yesterday and it was packed out with non mask wearers and security where stood there like fucking mannequins.

There are a huge amount of asthma sufferers work and shop in my local Asda I've noticed recently.

[Wabaloolah]

There are a huge amount of asthma sufferers work and shop in my local Asda I've noticed recently.

Asthma is not a reason for not wearing one anyway, the missus has bad asthma, had to have steroids a couple of times where it has led to a chest infection but she religiously wears a mask and has to wear one in work even when sat down at her desk.

The people can't wear masks due to asthma are in the main talking bollocks as if you suffer from asthma, the last thing you would want would be COVID

[alonsoisared]

interesting piece this. i think you could say the 'opposite' of this also applies. some will likely now have continued anxiety or mental health issues as a result of the pandemic - and may choose to forever wear a masks, avoid larger crowds or feel anxiety being around unmasked people etc.

not to delve too deep into the argument around masks, but it did surprise me how quickly a lot of firmly anti-Tory types just ripped off their masks knowing what a shitshow the pandemic has been as soon as they weren't mandated. no judgment really as ultimately it should be the government telling people, but it did surprise me, can't lie.

I don't mean to be facetious but surely being "overwhelmed" by your glasses fogging up can't compare to the anxiety of getting the virus or passing it on to someone you love? I can't help but feel a lot of people in this country are hiding behind stuff like this so they can escape the flak from not wearing a mask. Just like the amount of asthma sufferers there are out there at the moment.

I live in Spain and I work in my mask all day. I haven't been in to a shop or on public transport without a mask since this all kicked off. I've always suffered with asthma but it's had no affect on me. Just like in England, when the first few people started wearing masks around that February people laughed and thought it was ridiculous. Then the government mandated it and we all just get on with it. In England they gave people the choice and now they can say no because their glasses fogging up overwhelms them. Some things are more important here surely.

We still had to wear them even in the street until the summer. Many people still wear them out and about particularly in busy streets or in city centres. It feels like common sense. People's attitudes towards it here I find incredible. It really isn't that much of a hardship.

[Son of Spion]

Asthma is not a reason for not wearing one anyway, the missus has bad asthma, had to have steroids a couple of times where it has led to a chest infection but she religiously wears a mask and has to wear one in work even when sat down at her desk.

The people can't wear masks due to asthma are in the main talking bollocks as if you suffer from asthma, the last thing you would want would be COVID

My brother has asthma and always wears a mask. Others I know who struggle with a mask wear visors instead.

[redbyrdz]

99% of people not wearing masks, even where it is the law, suffer from arseholism.

[djahern]

There isn't normally a choice. But ideally you want a different type to your first 2 as it is more effective.

It is odd that the hospital cases seem to be going down at the moment isn't it? It is over 2 weeks since the cases started spiking.

Hospitalisation numbers are rising, have been for over a week.

[Musketeer Gripweed]

99% of people not wearing masks, even where it is the law, suffer from arseholism.

Most of them look as if they are waiting for you to confront them. Weird selfish people.

[rob1966]

While people can just say 'i have a medical exemption', I don't see any point in security getting involved. Shit I know. But there it is.

When there are hundreds of young women and men strutting about maskless, they know they are taking the piss though.

There are a huge amount of asthma sufferers work and shop in my local Asda I've noticed recently.

Shocking isn't it? My missus ended up in hospital for 3 days when pregnant with our 2nd, could barely breathe and her sats were 90. Amazingly, she has no issue wearing a mask ....................................

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

Shit.
Hope you are Ok.

Feel worse for going the vaccination centre with it to be honest, and to a couple of shops this morning. Don't see how that could have been avoided though without testing myself every hour of every day! Shows how hard the virus is to contain I guess.

[PaulF]

When there are hundreds of young women and men strutting about maskless, they know they are taking the piss though.

Shocking isn't it? My missus ended up in hospital for 3 days when pregnant with our 2nd, could barely breathe and her sats were 90. Amazingly, she has no issue wearing a mask ....................................

Yeah, but realistically, what they going to do?  I must admit I don't really know what retail security staff do? I assume they are more of a 'presence' and a deterrent, rather than proactively stop crime.  Little more than the cardboard cut outs of a coppa or nan at a store entrance.  I guess I've watched too much Mall cop.

[RainbowFlick]

Yeah, but realistically, what they going to do?  I must admit I don't really know what retail security staff do? I assume they are more of a 'presence' and a deterrent, rather than proactively stop crime.  Little more than the cardboard cut outs of a coppa or nan at a store entrance.  I guess I've watched too much Mall cop.

get Paul Blart riding his segway enforcing mask wearing 

[Dull Tools]

Not really.  All the noise from SA was that it is mild.

Currently, the biggest impacts from Omicron are health workers having to isolate, thus not being able to work (care for people), and the hopitality sector going down the pan.

The hospitality and travel sectors aren't down to the virus though.

If the vaccines are working when we aren't really isolating then are there any need for further restrictions.

As everyone has said here, most people around shopping aren't wearing masks and there are still no issues with the hospitals.

[PaulF]

As everyone has said here, most people around shopping aren't wearing masks and there are still no issues with the hospitals.

I disagree with that . Last time I went out at least 50% were mask wearing. And I'd be surprised if it weren't higher than 70%.
That said it's more supermarket than shopping mall for me.

[RainbowFlick]

The hospitality and travel sectors aren't down to the virus though.

If the vaccines are working when we aren't really isolating then are there any need for further restrictions.

As everyone has said here, most people around shopping aren't wearing masks and there are still no issues with the hospitals.

but there will be issues with supply chains and staffing generally. coupled with some harsher brexit stuff in January, I think there may be a few weeks of difficulties there. hospitals are busy though (as they always are over winter, but more so), even if maybe not falling apart which some people seem to think is the point we should do *anything*.

[smicer07]

Wonder if we've broken the 100k barrier today?

[RainbowFlick]

turns out Rickie Lambert is one of *those* guys too https://www.instagram.com/l4mbo07/?hl=en

insane logic on his instagram and of course Dejan Lovren is liking all his posts too

[LanceLink!!!!!]

I listened to TalkSport in last night for a couple of hours, the adverts alternated between a gambling one or a covid booster advert, the wording and the frequency of them felt like proper brainwashing stuff, like a George Orwell novel.

[CraigDS]

turns out Rickie Lambert is one of *those* guys too https://www.instagram.com/l4mbo07/?hl=en

*those* meaning "fucking idiot".

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Scotland have effectively banned fans from sports events from Boxing Day for 3 weeks and table service only in hospitality

Hogmanay celebration in Edinburgh also canx

[Nick110581]

Been out today

Love the mask wearers who pull up their jumper 😬

[The G in Gerrard]

90,629 cases reported. 172 deaths.

Still not over 100k (officially).

Amazing amount of boosters again.

[Red-Soldier]

The hospitality and travel sectors aren't down to the virus though.

If the vaccines are working when we aren't really isolating then are there any need for further restrictions.

As everyone has said here, most people around shopping aren't wearing masks and there are still no issues with the hospitals.

People are cancelling events and changing their behaviour - driven by Omicron.

I know.  It's great that hospitalisations aren't increasing!  Perhaps, the people that suggested it wont be so bad, were right.....

Perhaps we've hit the peak (in cases) and that things will now start to level off.

Channel 4 news asked last night whether Omicron would increase hospitalisations and deaths, but couldn't get a prediction.

[filopastry]

90,629 cases reported. 172 deaths.

Still not over 100k?

Cases in London have been levelling off at least which to me seems to largely be based on changing behaviour (lots of empty pubs and restaurants)

[The G in Gerrard]

Cases in London have been levelling off at least which to me seems to largely be based on changing behaviour (lots of empty pubs and restaurants)

Is this as bad as it gets daily cases wise then you reckon?

[filopastry]

Is this as bad as it gets daily cases wise then you reckon?

As long as those behaviours hold then I'm not sure it will be horrifically worse from here, should start to get benefit from school closures as well.

Even if behaviour does revert a bit, socialising may be less of a driver in Jan than Dec, hard to call though, as I certainly think things could go significantly higher if we returned fully to normal in terms of everyone going back to the office and socialising as normal.

[Nick110581]

Went out today and town was quiet.

A few shops closed due to staff sickness too.

[didi shamone]

Is this as bad as it gets daily cases wise then you reckon?

I still expect the post Christmas early January spike to be the peak in most places. It's the peak mixing time for all ages.
I'm hoping for it to be brief enough. All speculative on my part.

[CraigDS]

Is this as bad as it gets daily cases wise then you reckon?

Hard to say. If people go on as a normal Xmas and go out / mix in multiple different friend/family groups then could see there being higher daily numbers in the coming weeks.

[jillcwhomever]

I still expect the post Christmas early January spike to be the peak in most places. It's the peak mixing time for all ages.
I'm hoping for it to be brief enough. All speculative on my part.

There are a lot people on the train this morning coughing away, how many have tested and how many are putting it off until after Christmas. A bloke at work has just tested positive and is now off, like all the guys downstairs he never wore a mask. While it’s good they have not hit the expected levels it could still go up quickly.

[classycarra]

I know.  It's great that hospitalisations aren't increasing!  Perhaps, the people that suggested it wont be so bad, were right.....

Hospitalisations are increasing. Viewing by NHS region helps.



Thread of graphs/source:
https://twitter.com/VictimOfMaths/status/1473302455110803459

[CraigDS]

Hospitalisations are increasing. Viewing by NHS region helps.



Thread of graphs/source:
https://twitter.com/VictimOfMaths/status/1473302455110803459

Perspective though...



https://twitter.com/VictimOfMaths/status/1473302467710537729

[classycarra]

Perspective though...



https://twitter.com/VictimOfMaths/status/1473302467710537729

Yep that's why I shared the thread.

Just seen it said a few times that hospitalisations aren't rising, and wanted to show the actual data.

[rob1966]

As long as those behaviours hold then I'm not sure it will be horrifically worse from here, should start to get benefit from school closures as well.

Even if behaviour does revert a bit, socialising may be less of a driver in Jan than Dec, hard to call though, as I certainly think things could go significantly higher if we returned fully to normal in terms of everyone going back to the office and socialising as normal.

January is a very quiet month normally anyway, pubs and restaurants are usually very quiet, the Haulage industry always goes quiet in January as people aren't buying much/shopping much.

[Nick110581]

Isn’t testing capacity fucked so that’s why cases not higher?

[CraigDS]

Yep that's why I shared the thread.

Just seen it said a few times that hospitalisations aren't rising, and wanted to show the actual data.

No mate don't worry figured that, but just guessed plenty prob wouldn't bother looking 

[rob1966]

Isn’t testing capacity fucked so that’s why cases not higher?

Surely that is even better news then? If we have deaths and hospitalisations not shooting up, but in reality 4 times the declared cases, then that's a result?

[classycarra]

No mate don't worry figured that, but just guessed plenty prob wouldn't bother looking 

Sorry misread the tone! Thanks for sharing it.