Topic: The People's Club (I was saying Boo-urns)

[Armand9]

I dunno mate, I really did hate Hodgson..

oh mate, dont get me started on the owl - been a red since shanks and hodgson was my lowest point (especially when you factor in our owners at the time), still irked he's on our books historically as one of our managers - but as much as we wanted him gone, we sang 'hodgson for england', a very different approach to the toxicity that infects the other side

being that toxic isn't only bad for your club but for your health, literally, but they never learn and it appears their default setting

of course it isn't every blue but it's enough that perceptions are created

[Yosser0_0]

It was frankly disgraceful from the standard of any professional organisation.  Utter wankers from top to bottom. 

I hope that bottom is where they end up and the blue turd is finally flushed.

Almost looks like someone has written the statement in anger.


Everton Football Club can confirm the departure of Rafael Benitez as First Team manager.

Benitez, who joined Everton in June 2021, has left the Club with immediate effect.

An update on a permanent replacement will be made in due course.

https://www.evertonfc.com/news/2451049/benitez-departs-as-everton-manager

I never wanted him to go there and thought he showed poor judgement taking the job and in a way I'm quite glad it's over for him. However I've no doubt that once he went there he would have given his best and have been determined to make a success of it and grafted like mad. That obviously hasn't been valued over there and they are probably just pissed off that they've wasted yet more millions rather than looking at themselves as the root cause of the problems.

[disgraced cake]

BORIS FOR EVERTON

[John C]

I'd rather Newcastle went down than Everton

[Dim Glas]

I'd rather Newcastle went down than Everton

Me too.

And if they take burnley with them, jobs a goodun.

[ScouserAtHeart]

'Removal of Benítez will not solve all of Everton’s deep-lying problems'

The Goodison Park club is locked in a spiral of negativity and more change is required if they are to prosper

www.theguardian.com/football/2022/jan/16/removal-of-benitez-will-not-solve-all-of-evertons-deep-lying-problems


a snippet...

'Perhaps the strangest aspect of Rafa Benítez’s time at Everton is how well it began. He may have been sacked after a dismal run of one win in 13 league games, but after seven league games Everton had 14 points, a better start than they’d had last season, when everybody was cooing about Carlo Ancelotti and James Rodríguez.'

"But until there is a clear vision it is hard to see how Everton move forward, and that begins with an acceptance of their place in the world."

Yeah good luck with that

[Dave McCoy]

Yeah, full on in the Newcastle need to go down no matter what even if that means Everton stay up.  With that said there is almost no way possible that whoever they appoint it won't turn into a total clown show. I'm just praying for Dunc but if it's Rooney ever better.  Can't wait either way.

[thegoodfella]

What a post! Ta Capon... #sausages

[Black Bull Nova]

Bill/Mosh: So we've decided that as you are one of the top managers to give you the chance to manage our great club


Anyone: So what is the transfer budget?


Bill/Mosh: You can every penny of the money you get for Rondon to spend




There are only 3 types of manager who would take on EFC


The blindly loyal (Rooney/Ferguson)
Those interested in swelling their pension post for a short period of work (a la Ancelotti)
Idiots

Why would Graham Potter give up Brighton for Everton, thought I'd never hear that sentence

[scatman]

Me too.

And if they take burnley with them, jobs a goodun.

All 3 would be perfect

[Schmidt]

There are only 3 types of manager who would take on EFC

The blindly loyal (Rooney/Ferguson)
Those interested in swelling their pension post for a short period of work (a la Ancelotti)
Idiots

Why would Graham Potter give up Brighton for Everton, thought I'd never hear that sentence

That's like 80% of managers.

[rushyman]

Thank fuck he left before he took charge of a Merseyside Derby at Anfield

[Ghost Town]

It's a rudderless ship, isn't it.

Surely they must have talked recently and come to the conclusion that Rafa was on the brink unless he pulled it around very, very quickly. If so, why on earth would they sell a player that they seem to rate, especially knowing full well that if they lost to Norwich it would be goodbye Rafa?

The dice was in mid air, so you'd at least think they'd have waited to see how it landed before making any big decisions on players. As you said, it's one panic after another with them. No thought, just panic and kneejerk reaction.

They always wanted to be like Man United. Now they are.

To misquote Julius Caeser. the die was cast as soon as he crossed the Booo-bicon. He came, he saw, he laughed his head off and booked a cruise in January.

Though I imagine from an Ev fan point of view it was more a case of Veni, Vidi, Vichy rather than Vici 

I'm sure he's sat next to his phone awaiting their call.

 

Maybe when he [Zidane] was buying a house on Merseyside all those years ago he was playing the long game? "Alors, one day ze Ev will call me, and I will be ready. Pret a manager!"

[Ghost Town]

Has to be a red on a windup about ZZ. Has to be.

Hard to top, if so...

I think the story has legs...

[lamonti]

Director of Medical, Head of Recruitment, Manager of Scouting, Director of Football, Digne and the manager all gone in 6 months

Huge rebuilding job now.

Maybe that's why he was hired? To do a load of unpopular stuff and draw the heat from the board while they make a point of spending fuck all after wasting cash season on season?

Then again, I don't think there's that much joined up thinking going at Everton.

[JRed]

Do other clubs still think to themselves ‘What would the Everton board do , as they always get it right’?

[McrRed]

Their love for all things united, it has to be Ole for the new manager, surely? That'd be quite the coup.

[BarryCrocker]

Their love for all things united, it has to be Ole for the new manager, surely? That'd be quite the coup.

It's got Rooney written all over it.

[Fromola]

It’s such a toxic fan culture there, a cesspit brimming with absolute hatred. When we were in a shit situation with Hodgson it never went to such depths - instead it all went gallows humour with videos like the surreal “Roy Hodgsons walkabout” doing the rounds. Sure there was effing and blinding but not fans invading the pitch to get at the manager.

He never stood a chance. He had a good start, but any little opportunity to spew their bile and they were going to take it. That stuff is insidious so no wonder the mood was so low. The club deserve everything they get with that kind of supporter attitudes.

Fans make a huge difference. They’re largely in the terrible state they are in for that fanbase negativity and hatred.

I hated Hodgson from the start but at the game he actually got a fair deal. Wolves at home he got "Hodgson for England" and his last game at Blackburn was toxic. Would have got nasty had he stayed much longer.

[thaddeus]

It's got Rooney written all over it.

Rooney and Big Dunc.

Just had Pat Nevin on Radio 5 and he talked a lot of sense that the problems run far beyond Benitez.  They've cleared out a lot of the senior posts in the past six months and two of the few remaining constants are Moshi and Big Dunc.  Moshi isn't going to sack himself but it's amazing that Big Dunc keeps surviving - imagine being Benitez and arriving on day one to be greeted by a snarling Neanderthal that until a week earlier would have hated you as much as any Evertonian.

[moondog]

I reckon Moshiri was given the old “he goes or I go” speech by either Ferguson OR Benitez and saw the revolting toxic fan base over the last few weeks and shit out of letting Rafa complete the clear out he was brought in to do.

[JRed]

Rooney and Big Dunc.

Just had Pat Nevin on Radio 5 and he talked a lot of sense that the problems run far beyond Benitez.  They've cleared out a lot of the senior posts in the past six months and two of the few remaining constants are Moshi and Big Dunc.  Moshi isn't going to sack himself but it's amazing that Big Dunc keeps surviving - imagine being Benitez and arriving on day one to be greeted by a snarling Neanderthal that until a week earlier would have hated you as much as any Evertonian.

It’s been said many times, but Ferguson still being there ,no matter what manager is brought in, is bewildering. It’s evidence of the club playing to the toxic fans.

[boots]

You can build a new stadium, get new players and staff but you will still be left with the main problem. The fans. It's difficult to criticise them further without fear of becoming a troll yourself. Better to just stand back and watch their house burn from a distance. All they can do is throw more fuel on the fire. They keep sacking off the firefighters. Its tragic really.

[Jm55]

As funny as it would be, they won’t get relegated, they’re still relatively well placed to avoid being dragged into that conversation when you factor in the games in hand (obviously they have to win them but I’d expect them to still be in the rung above a relegation battle).

s others have said, I’d rather Newcastle go down anyway

[[new username under construction]]

Big Dunc keeps surviving - imagine being Benitez and arriving on day one to be greeted by a snarling Neanderthal that until a week earlier would have hated you as much as any Evertonian.

You've got it wrong mate, Ped off Toffee TV says Big Dunk is amazing, he has such personality and charisma that people flock to him when he enters a room* He will be their saviour!!!













*possibly to check if he's drunk

[rob1966]

That comment from them "What would Everton do" just gets funnier and funnier.

When you have a decision to make, ask yourself what Everton would do and do the opposite.

[Lycan]

I'd rather Newcastle went down than Everton

It would be better for everyone if they did. Would be funny for us if the blues went down though.

[Charlie Adams fried egg]

Not all those ex-managers can have been so bad can they? The jobs many of them are doing now suggests not. I can't be arsed looking at their forums, but have any of them joined the dots yet?

Jonathan Wilson's article linked here had some good advice which was basically accept your place in the food chain and build from there.

[JRed]

As much as I want Newcastle to go down, I would prefer Everton to finally be flushed.
Newcastle’s route to success is inevitable , relegation will just delay it. However if Everton go down, they could very well be stuck outside the PL for a very long time. We could then be spared all their toxic shite around derby time.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

My missus and a few other blues that were sensible about the whole thing have lost their shit, blaming him for everything.

You try and point out that their policy of sacking manager after manager after manager and signing shite after more shite isn't his fault, but apparantly it is.

So...

... signing more shite and sacking manager after manager to come.

They are going down I reckon.

[BarryCrocker]

That comment from them "What would Everton do" just gets funnier and funnier.

When you have a decision to make, ask yourself what Everton would do and do the opposite.

Should mock up some t-shirts with WWEd

[ScouserAtHeart]

Not all those ex-managers can have been so bad can they? The jobs many of them are doing now suggests not. I can't be arsed looking at their forums, but have any of them joined the dots yet?

Jonathan Wilson's article linked here had some good advice which was basically accept your place in the food chain and build from there.

They'll never accept it because they have this weird idea that they're somehow better than us, it's just that the results on the pitch aren't showing it.

[Mighty_Red]

Is Moshiri the modern day Monty Brewster? He's been given £1bn by his Ucle Uzzy which he has to waste and not own anything at the end in order to win the big prize? 7 months of Rafa has to be the rare stamp scene!

Capon, do your worst

[12C]

I hated Hodgson from the start but at the game he actually got a fair deal. Wolves at home he got "Hodgson for England" and his last game at Blackburn was toxic. Would have got nasty had he stayed much longer.

Hodgson took a pretty strong squad and destroyed its moral with Jurassic tactics.
Look at the difference in Kenny’s first league game. Suddenly the same team was playing good football.
Everyone wanted Hodgson to succeed when appointed. No one was calling him a fat English librarian or putting offensive banners on his neighbours gates. He however, slagged us off for not understanding his genius and questioning his knowledge.

Rafa was doomed from the start. He walked into a disaster. The fans didn’t want him because he was once Liverpool manager. They were waiting for the slightest sign of trouble, and they undermined the team at every turn. Their boos for Rafa should not disguise the boos for the team over the past years. Ancelotti was lucky there were no fans in Goodison for most of his tenure. His home record was not good.
Rafa took on a technically poor, bloated and mismatched squad, that was one year older and less able. He refreshed it with two bargains, but was never going to win over the fans. I heard one call Townsend crap because he has always been crap, as if they somehow were being short changed. Only crap players will go there. James was called world class whilst he was there. He hardly played due to swollen balls, fatigue and indifference. He fucked off early to the Copa and they cut him a free pass. He was just as shite as Bolasie.
Rafa was never going to succeed there, but maybe he has highlighted the problems they have and started them on a path that might lead to them sorting themselves out.
That said, the next manager won’t be given any slack either.

[courty61]

I probably mentioned this on this board or the previous one.

But I went to a sportsman's dinner in December 2019, which was just before Ancelloti was appointed, Dunc was in interim charge after Silva had been sacked. It was the day before Duncs 1st game.

Ronnie Goodlass was there doing a speech.

All he kept on going on about what that he hopes Dunc gets the wound up and the lads get stuck in. That's what we want to see etc etc. Solves everything apparently

[Lycan]

They are going down I reckon.

Here's hoping.

[Lycan]

I probably mentioned this on this board or the previous one.

But I went to a sportsman's dinner in December 2019, which was just before Ancelloti was appointed, Dunc was in interim charge after Silva had been sacked. It was the day before Duncs 1st game.

Ronnie Goodlass was there doing a speech.

All he kept on going on about what that he hopes Dunc gets the wound up and the lads get stuck in. That's what we want to see etc etc. Solves everything apparently

It worked to be fair. They battered Chelsea that day. He did alright in his short spell. If he can get a bit of a honeymoon period going again, it might be enough to push them to safety given how bad the likes of Norwich, Burnley, Watford and Newcastle are.

[Pistolero]

I probably mentioned this on this board or the previous one.

But I went to a sportsman's dinner in December 2019, which was just before Ancelloti was appointed, Dunc was in interim charge after Silva had been sacked. It was the day before Duncs 1st game.

Ronnie Goodlass was there doing a speech.

All he kept on going on about what that he hopes Dunc gets the wound up and the lads get stuck in. That's what we want to see etc etc. Solves everything apparently

Goodlass basically regurgitates that speech every Saturday on Radio Merseyside.....he's the archetypal Evertonian...and an emblem of why they'll forever be trapped in their cage...perpetually running on their bitter blue wheel

[thaddeus]

I probably mentioned this on this board or the previous one.

But I went to a sportsman's dinner in December 2019, which was just before Ancelloti was appointed, Dunc was in interim charge after Silva had been sacked. It was the day before Duncs 1st game.

Ronnie Goodlass was there doing a speech.

All he kept on going on about what that he hopes Dunc gets the wound up and the lads get stuck in. That's what we want to see etc etc. Solves everything apparently

It worked for a very short period; two up front, early balls forward, scrapping for second balls.  The formula to defeating that 1990s football is well known now though and sure enough it was soon worked out.

Everton want to be dogs of war (/yard dogs) but also successful.  If only they could entice Simeone 

[12C]

I probably mentioned this on this board or the previous one.

But I went to a sportsman's dinner in December 2019, which was just before Ancelloti was appointed, Dunc was in interim charge after Silva had been sacked. It was the day before Duncs 1st game.

Ronnie Goodlass was there doing a speech.

All he kept on going on about what that he hopes Dunc gets the wound up and the lads get stuck in. That's what we want to see etc etc. Solves everything apparently

Aesop told the tale of the fox who lost his tail.
He tried to persuade all the other foxes that it was a good look.
Everton look shit by comparison with other footballing sides like Liverpool. So they want to kick fuck out of good sides  to bring them down to the same level as Everton.
We saw that with Royal and his yard dogs of war. He won a cup with Mike Walkers team, and then nearly took them down.  I remember being told at the time by a blue that Liverpool fans “think their team is something special when they are as shite as us…”. I also recall a Derby at Anfield around that time when they simply kicked fuck out of McManaman amongst others and got away with a draw. I’ve seen some shite Everton side over the years, but they rejoiced in stopping us by thuggery. They were delirious because they stopped us from winning, I think the malaise took root at that time. Moyes stoked it up and played up to the crowd but it started under Royle. Yet they think they should be somehow dining at the top table.