Topic: Jill's gorra boss Worcester Combi! (aka the weather thread)

[rob1966]

Went to Northampton today, the Midlands was just blanketed in mist and fog.

[Red Beret]

Now I'm seeing reports that there's a chance of snow in Liverpool on Christmas Day. Bloody hell. 😳

[reddebs]

We did an 11hr road trip yesterday from Anglesey to Rufford then to Sheffield then back to Anglesey collecting our 2 granddaughters who are with us till Thursday.

We set off in the dark but then had beautiful blue skies before the mist set in.  We had to use the M62 rather than M67 and Snake to get to Sheffield as the 67 was closed. 

The fog was really bad on the M62 and over Snake coming back although we wished we hadn't decided to risk the 67.  Eastbound was still closed and there were loads of forensics people on the carriageway and those green screens had been put up along the central reservation. 

A man's body had been found on the motorway at 7am yesterday morning.  Poor man RIP.

We then had the joy of watching the most spectacular sunset from South Manchester to home, with the sky going through that myriad of colours, orange, pink, red, purple. 

The full moon with the mist over the water and lowlying land just added to the spectacle.

How beautiful is nature in all its stunning glory 🥰

[rob1966]

Been from Warrington to Wigan, across to Goole, Wakefield and back today. There was on stretch of the M62 just after Oldham to the M62 summit where it was clear blue skies and sun, other than that it was fog all day, some of it really thick.

[.adam]

Aye. Really weird localised fog yesterday. Drove from South Manchester to Edale in the Peak District. Terrible fog by me, completely lifted by the time I hit the airport then clear all the way to Edale. Half way up the summit, it rolled in and for the rest of the walk we were up in the clouds.

[Nobby Reserve]

Now I'm seeing reports that there's a chance of snow in Liverpool on Christmas Day. Bloody hell. 😳

The output models have modelled a few scenarios where the high sat over the UK migrates north, introducing a colder feed of air over the UK, then a low comes in from the south-west and you get the situation of moist air hitting very cold air and the resultant snow.

But most recent output shows a greater likelihood of the high just being squeezed out and the low moving in the west, throwing up milder air over the UK in front of it.

Still a very outside chance of snow on either Xmas Eve or Xmas Day (because the models have struggled to give a consistent scenario and may flip back to the colder option), but I'd put it about 10% at best.

[rob1966]

Aye. Really weird localised fog yesterday. Drove from South Manchester to Edale in the Peak District. Terrible fog by me, completely lifted by the time I hit the airport then clear all the way to Edale. Half way up the summit, it rolled in and for the rest of the walk we were up in the clouds.

Brilliant photos.

I saw the same type of thing as I was going up the M62 towards the summit, valley on the left was full of fog while everywhere else was clear. I'd have loved to have got a photo

[Nobby Reserve]

I like this one in particular. At first glance, it looks like a coastline. 

[Nobby Reserve]

The output models have modelled a few scenarios where the high sat over the UK migrates north, introducing a colder feed of air over the UK, then a low comes in from the south-west and you get the situation of moist air hitting very cold air and the resultant snow.

But most recent output shows a greater likelihood of the high just being squeezed out and the low moving in the west, throwing up milder air over the UK in front of it.

Still a very outside chance of snow on either Xmas Eve or Xmas Day (because the models have struggled to give a consistent scenario and may flip back to the colder option), but I'd put it about 10% at best.

Up to perhaps 25% now (slight majority of output modelling a situation of some rain about Xmas Eve & Xmas Day, but cold air moving south over Xmas Day which gives a decent chance of turning the falling stuff to snow as the day wears on. Any snow falling will struggle to stick, though. Then more possible snow Boxing Day afternoon/evening.

Still plenty of time to change, as the model output has been all over the place the last week, as the current pattern is unusual and fairly chaotic. Might get just rain, might get dry, might get better snow.

[Roady]

Up to perhaps 25% now (slight majority of output modelling a situation of some rain about Xmas Eve & Xmas Day, but cold air moving south over Xmas Day which gives a decent chance of turning the falling stuff to snow as the day wears on. Any snow falling will struggle to stick, though. Then more possible snow Boxing Day afternoon/evening.

Still plenty of time to change, as the model output has been all over the place the last week, as the current pattern is unusual and fairly chaotic. Might get just rain, might get dry, might get better snow.

Nobby are you a member on the netweather community forum by any chance?

[Nobby Reserve]

Nobby are you a member on the netweather community forum by any chance?

No, but I know about NetWeather and know a few of the people who go on there.

[Roady]

No, but I know about NetWeather and know a few of the people who go on there.

Ah right sound.  Just going on about various models and stuff sounds like you know your stuff. I've followed that app for a while but only recently joined. 👍

[Nobby Reserve]

Ah right sound.  Just going on about various models and stuff sounds like you know your stuff. I've followed that app for a while but only recently joined. 👍

I like to dip in and out of looking at output from these and have a crack at interpreting the charts. It's my 'geek vice' 

[jillcwhomever]

Winter solstice tonight, can only get better from now on folks. 

[Nobby Reserve]

Is there only me who loves dark nights (and mornings) in the winter? It's perfect when coupled with cold, dank, atmospheric days (preferably with snow on the ground)

I love long, warm, sunny evenings in summer as well, I want yo add.

[Son of Spion]

Is there only me who loves dark nights (and mornings) in the winter? It's perfect when coupled with cold, dank, atmospheric days (preferably with snow on the ground)

I love long, warm, sunny evenings in summer as well, I want yo add.

I'd like it more if we had a proper Winter. When I was young I loved frosty days, snowy days, stormy days and foggy days. Winter often felt like Winter back then. We'd wake up many a morning with frost patterns all up the bedroom window on the inside. As you said, it could be really atmospheric. These days it just feels like dreary, perpetual Autumn from October to March.

Now, I'm pretty much a Summer person who can't wait for Winter to do one so I can get out in the garden and get some work done in daylight.

[Statto Red]

I hate dark mornings when sunrise is after 8am, i love it when sunrise is before 6am, can get lovely sunrises over Liverpool on a nice spring & summers morning.

[rob1966]

Ah, the winter solstice is here,

[Slippers]

Is there only me who loves dark nights (and mornings) in the winter? It's perfect when coupled with cold, dank, atmospheric days (preferably with snow on the ground)

I love long, warm, sunny evenings in summer as well, I want yo add.

I quite like the dark nights,not so keen on it being dark when I get up in the morning.

[rob1966]

Is there only me who loves dark nights (and mornings) in the winter? It's perfect when coupled with cold, dank, atmospheric days (preferably with snow on the ground)

I love long, warm, sunny evenings in summer as well, I want yo add.

I only like the dark mornings when I'm working on the trucks - when trying to find the unit you just blip the fob to cycle through the lights check and then I can see where it is by which one starting flashing. Otherwise, its a wander around the yard searching for the one amongst 60 odd trucks 

Much prefer the light mornings, makes me want to get up when I wake and go sit in the garden with a coffee and listen to the day come alive. Going out at 4:30 to work in summer is ace.

[Nobby Reserve]

Xmas snow chances down to about 5%.

Last few model runs have really backtracked.

Gutted!

[Red Beret]

More bitter outside than a packed Goodison. Slightest breeze really stings. I'm assuming Nobby knows why it's still raining rather than snowing. 

Just glad that's perihelion done for another year!

[Slippers]

Torrential rain and howling gales here,very festive.

[Son of Spion]

It's 4°C with rain here. 

Nobby has urinated on my turkey and stuffing by passing on the ''no white Christmas'' news from the Met Office. 

[Nobby Reserve]

More bitter outside than a packed Goodison. Slightest breeze really stings. I'm assuming Nobby knows why it's still raining rather than snowing. 

Just glad that's perihelion done for another year!

Cold air inversion - colder air bottled up at ground level, but milder air well above us (ground temp is about 2.5c, but due to a warm sector pushing in from the SW, the air at the 850hPa boundary (approx 1500m above sea level) the air is about 4-5c right now.

[Red Beret]

Cold air inversion - colder air bottled up at ground level, but milder air well above us (ground temp is about 2.5c, but due to a warm sector pushing in from the SW, the air at the 850hPa boundary (approx 1500m above sea level) the air is about 4-5c right now.

There we go. Thanks mate!

It's 4°C with rain here. 

Nobby has urinated on my turkey and stuffing by passing on the ''no white Christmas'' news from the Met Office. 

Well I have to say, that's a most unique marinade.

[Nobby Reserve]

There we go. Thanks mate!

The nerd in me couldn’t resist. 

[John C]

In the reported battle of cold vs warm air, I think the warm air is prevailing in Liverpool.
It's chilly but not frabs like early in the week.

[Red Beret]

In the reported battle of cold vs warm air, I think the warm air is prevailing in Liverpool.
It's chilly but not frabs like early in the week.

Been 11C in the city today, but will likely fall to 5 or 6C if the Met Office are anything to go by.

Found this site which is rather interesting if anybody fancies a nose: https://www.netweather.tv/charts-and-data/jetstream

[Statto Red]

Seen the forecast & it's going to be 15C on new years day.

[Pistolero]

Hate....I said hate 'mild' weather in winter.....we get more than enough of that shite in the other 3 seasons of the year......get cold you bastard

[Son of Spion]

Hate....I said hate 'mild' weather in winter.....we get more than enough of that shite in the other 3 seasons of the year......get cold you bastard

I'm the same. I'm a summer person, but I also want Winter to actually look and feel like winter.

I loathe this perpetual Autumn we get these days.

[rob1966]

Up in the lakes and it's absolutely pissing it down. Prefer it when it's freezing and blue skies when we come up here this time of the year. The hot tub is so much better when it's minus 2.

[Slippers]

It's pissed down all night and it's still pissing down now.

[Red Beret]

I'm the same. I'm a summer person, but I also want Winter to actually look and feel like winter.

I loathe this perpetual Autumn we get these days.

Like I said earlier mate, I hate these perpetual, grim overcast skies. Desperate for a bit of blue sky and sunshine.  It's 10.15am and I have my bloody SAD light on.

[rob1966]

Pissing down again in Windermere. I get its the Lakes for a reason but ffs, can't it just be cold and dry?

[John C]

Went for a run this morning and it was roasting. Too mild to run in long sleeve top

[Red-Soldier]

Went for a run this morning and it was roasting. Too mild to run in long sleeve top

It's climate change John - the winters are getting milder, wetter and more windy.

[Slippers]

Torrential rain,thunder and lightning here today.

Lovely stuff.

[Slippers]

Very thick mist this morning,half the garden's vanished.