Topic: The RAWK Film Thread

[rafathegaffa83]

Finally got around to watching The Deer Hunter. Grim as fuck. One of De Niro's best performances. Walken is fabulous too (fucking terrifying in the latter stages). They don't make them like they used to.

[Spongebob Redpants]

Watched “Nope” on way home from hols on plane.

It’s weird but I honestly can’t decide if it was any good or not.

What is the general consensus?

I expected more - pretty average at best .

The actress who played the sister ( Keke Palmer ) seemed to get a lot of plaudits , but I found the character annoying .

[Kenny's Jacket]

Enola Holmes 2 was enjoyable.

Ive earmarked this as something the family will watch over Christmas.  Have you seen the first one, is it any good?

[Red Ol]

Finally got around to watching The Deer Hunter. Grim as fuck. One of De Niro's best performances. Walken is fabulous too (fucking terrifying in the latter stages). They don't make them like they used to.

To me one of the greatest films ever and the acting is superb. One of the first films I watched on video and my only regret is not seeing it at the cinema (wasn’t old enough to get in).

[Buck Pete]

To me one of the greatest films ever and the acting is superb. One of the first films I watched on video and my only regret is not seeing it at the cinema (wasn’t old enough to get in).

Love to watch Deer Hunter on the big screen.  The late great John Cazale is one of my favourite actors.

I'm gradually getting through cinema screenings of my favourite movies I was simply too young to attend first time around.

Apocalypse Now: Final Cut stands out for me a few years ago.  Incredible to watch it on the big screen.

Then Jaws remastered in Real3d a few months ago.  Again, amazing!

[Buck Pete]

I think it's a cautionary tale about the treatment of animals by hollywood (maybe broader) - flagging hollywood negatives occurs in all his movies i seen, im pretty much sure of that (in this at the start you have the horse kicking an actor, then escalates to the flashbacks of the chimp rampage, culminating in jean jacket - there may be more but those are the ones i remember)

so kind of is just what you see, a cautionary tale not learnt (for whatever reason - choice/amnesia) with the same outcome, fuck with animals at your peril

there may be a more deeper meaning there but i think the above holds water. I know peele mentioned among the movies he said were influential was King Kong and jaws, which fit for obvious reasons. there's also real world references in the veil wearing woman at jupe's show, victim of chimp, and the well known case of the woman in real life who was attacked by a chimp and wears a veil (i think she was an animal trainer, which would fit the nod at hollywood again)

jupe didn't learn, still using 'animals' for profit, shite outcome

Cheers for the reply and that makes sense.  I did suspect it was a swipe at the way animals (and people) are exploited by Hollywood.

I was unsure how it fit into the plot narrative though.  But your explanation of how Jupe "didn't learn" from his experiences with Gordy is a good shout.

The studio scene with Gordy the chimp following his rampage was pretty scary to be fair.

To be honest, its almost a week later and I have been thinking about the movie lots, so it must have had some kind of impact on me.

Brilliant article here from The Ringer which pretty much expands on your theories.

https://www.theringer.com/movies/2022/7/25/23276683/nope-gordy-chimp-theories

The actress who played the sister ( Keke Palmer ) seemed to get a lot of plaudits , but I found the character annoying .

Yep, annoying.

[Zee_26]

I think it's a cautionary tale about the treatment of animals by hollywood (maybe broader) - flagging hollywood negatives occurs in all his movies i seen, im pretty much sure of that (in this at the start you have the horse kicking an actor, then escalates to the flashbacks of the chimp rampage, culminating in jean jacket - there may be more but those are the ones i remember)

so kind of is just what you see, a cautionary tale not learnt (for whatever reason - choice/amnesia) with the same outcome, fuck with animals at your peril

there may be a more deeper meaning there but i think the above holds water. I know peele mentioned among the movies he said were influential was King Kong and jaws, which fit for obvious reasons. there's also real world references in the veil wearing woman at jupe's show, victim of chimp, and the well known case of the woman in real life who was attacked by a chimp and wears a veil (i think she was an animal trainer, which would fit the nod at hollywood again)

jupe didn't learn, still using 'animals' for profit, shite outcome

I'd agree with that. I think another major theme is child actors being unable to leave Hollywood behind even though their experiences can be downright traumatising. Jupe witnesses first hand a terrible event and is doomed (out of his own choices) to experience similar later on in his adult life.

It's a great film and one that will reward multiple viewings. There's a lot of references to old and new Hollywood all across the film.

[Buck Pete]

It's a great film and one that will reward multiple viewings. There's a lot of references to old and new Hollywood all across the film.

I think you're right. I really want to watch it again.

[RedSince86]

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[Andy @ Allerton!]

Black Adam

Started well. Finished poorly.

3/10

[PaulF]

Everything, everywhere, all at once. I'd not heard of this until this thread.  Different 😁

[Terry de Niro]

Finally got around to watching The Deer Hunter. Grim as fuck. One of De Niro's best performances. Walken is fabulous too (fucking terrifying in the latter stages). They don't make them like they used to.

To me one of the greatest films ever and the acting is superb. One of the first films I watched on video and my only regret is not seeing it at the cinema (wasn’t old enough to get in).

Definitely up there with the best.
So powerful and almost feels like you're watching a documentary because it's so realistic.

[Hazell]

Ive earmarked this as something the family will watch over Christmas.  Have you seen the first one, is it any good?

Yeah it's the first one was really enjoyable. Second one's fun too. Definitely watch them both.

[Disregarder]

Had the 'rona recently so managed to catch up on some films that have been sat on my lists for ages, some of them years, while I was isolating.

Blade Runner 2049 - thought this was an incredible atmospheric cerebral sci-fi movie and a worthy follow up to the classic original. Didn't have high hopes for it as I saw the recent Dune by the same director and found it over long and ponderous to the point of arse numbing in the cinema. The gap between the first film and this one was a red flag. With similar remakes or sequels to great films made decades ago, I've been disappointed and felt they should have left it alone rather than sully memories of the original with a shit new one.

I Kill Giants. Loved this. Really well written and acted coming of age film about a bullied and lonely teenage girl who takes down huge monsters.  Premise is secondary to great character development and acting.

Public Enemies. Load of old wank with Johnny Depp. Turned it off it was that bad.

Don't Look Up. Hyped Oscar worthy film but hype justified this time. Great star studied assemble cast

[Armand9]

Amsterdam - what a neat little movie

quirky, well written, well acted, kind of movie to just chill out and see where it takes you

everyone does a good job but bale, he's  such a chameleon and eminently watchable

on a purely side and shallow note - i never got this thing that margot robbie is hot, never has been to my eye but she looked good in this, i wasn't sure it was even her tho i had a feeling it was (i wasn't aware of the cast apart from bale before hand)

[Trada]

I really enjoyed Enola Holmes 2

With the socialism message of Sarah Chapman and the match girls strike.

[The G in Gerrard]

Ive earmarked this as something the family will watch over Christmas.  Have you seen the first one, is it any good?

Yes both are well worth watching especially with the family. Everyone is good in it.

[Armand9]

I really enjoyed Enola Holmes 2

With the socialism message of Sarah Chapman and the match girls strike.

saw the first one, thought it was a nice easy family watch

surprised to see there's a second one already, shall check that out

[Hazell]

Anyone seen See They How Run? Saw it yesterday and it's really a lot of fun. It's a bit like Knives Out, but with a bit more self referential-ness.

[gerrardisgod]

Yeah, mentioned it a couple pages back. I loved both Ronan and Rockwell, excellent buddy cop-ish vibes.

[Hazell]

Yeah, mentioned it a couple pages back. I loved both Ronan and Rockwell, excellent buddy cop-ish vibes.

Definitely, Ronan in particular was a joy. I did think the reveal of whodunnit was the weakest element of the film but I don't think it was the main point anyway. But yeah, definitely recommend if you're looking for an enjoyable hour and a half.

[gerrardisgod]

I went into it a bit blind, so was nice to see Key and Shearsmith pop up.

[Hazell]

Yeah, love Tim Key in anything he's in and Shearsmith always seems to be popping up in everything I'm watching at the moment - he was in In The Earth and bizarrely, in Venom: Let There Be Carnage

[Andy @ Allerton!]

The Banshees of Inisherin

Hilarious. Laughed my head off all the way through it

Spoiler

Except the donkey death RIP

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[Crosby Nick]

Anyone seen See They How Run? Saw it yesterday and it's really a lot of fun. It's a bit like Knives Out, but with a bit more self referential-ness.

Looks quite good fun from what I’ve seen, and a quality cast like you said.

[TepidT2O]

Went to see Black Panther …Wankanda Forever….

I know this sounds obvious, but it really missed having a …blank panther in it…
Still some excellent performances, but Chadwick Boseman stole the screen inthe first film and his absence was (not surprisingly) quite stark.… life is so fucking unfair sometimes, I think he was about to become the first black action hero …

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Went to see Black Panther …Wankanda Forever….

I know this sounds obvious, but it really missed having a …blank panther in it…
Still some excellent performances, but Chadwick Boseman stole the screen inthe first film and his absence was (not surprisingly) quite stark.… life is so fucking unfair sometimes, I think he was about to become the first black action hero …

A blank panther?

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Morbius

OK, I suppose, Missus liked it

6/10 from me

[Armand9]

Went to see Black Panther …Wankanda Forever….

I know this sounds obvious, but it really missed having a …blank panther in it…
Still some excellent performances, but Chadwick Boseman stole the screen inthe first film and his absence was (not surprisingly) quite stark.… life is so fucking unfair sometimes, I think he was about to become the first black action hero …

i always looked at Blade and Storm as action heros that got good screen time if that's the context you're refering to, and Blade got three movies of his own that's pretty good going for any action hero (and he's being rebooted, which im very much looking forward to, i hope it doesn't get toned down on the censorship side)

i agree on Boseman being a great Black Panther and for sure would've had an ongoing presence in marvel, i haven't seen the second film yet so can't comment beyond that

[Armand9]

Pearl

classed as horror.... yeah i guess, reluctantly, but not the slasher that it's the prequel to - X

you can't just say it's psychological but that's where its strength lies

i can imagine the film could be polarizing but i thought it was good while not being great, it does a neat job of quickly anchoring it's time setting (1918) even down to the font of the beginning credits as it very consciously evokes a sense of nostalgia even tho it's a modern movie linked to the future of its setting

there's a kind of The Wizard of Oz vibe in setting and visuals coupled with a strong nod to What Ever Happened to Baby Jane? -a brilliant film, even today, of its ilk it hasn't been done better and probably Bette Davis' best ever performance, joan crawford is excellent as well, if you haven't seen it, do yourself a favour and download it

Mia Goth as the central character is convincing as someone that has an unsettling presence altho not overtly threatening

i would recommend it but if someone said i watched that fucker you suggested and it was shite, i wouldn't be shocked

[Hedley Lamarr]

I actually know Ti West, met him a dozen times at writers things years back and at horror conferences within the past ten years. He's cool as fuck and still has time for people.  He's inconsistent, but arguably the most cineliterate horror director working today, even moreso than people like Ari Aster and Jennifer Kent .  He's never made a great film though, but I think he has one in him.  I really liked The Innkeepers but barely anyone seen it.  A good, old fashioned ghost story.

X, Pearl and the forthcoming MaXXine were made within a year, most of the footage shot within that time. It's obvious that the well had run dry by the time Pearl was made, MaXXine will be worse.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

I actually know Ti West, met him a dozen times at writers things years back and at horror conferences within the past ten years. He's cool as fuck and still has time for people.  He's inconsistent, but arguably the most cineliterate horror director working today, even moreso than people like Ari Aster and Jennifer Kent .  He's never made a great film though, but I think he has one in him.  I really liked The Innkeepers but barely anyone seen it.  A good, old fashioned ghost story.

X, Pearl and the forthcoming MaXXine were made within a year, most of the footage shot within that time. It's obvious that the well had run dry by the time Pearl was made, MaXXine will be worse.

Tell him to stop fucking about and get on with doing some proper Cthulhu mythos films with massive budgets, great stories and effects!

[Casta]

Pearl

classed as horror.... yeah i guess, reluctantly, but not the slasher that it's the prequel to - X

you can't just say it's psychological but that's where its strength lies

i can imagine the film could be polarizing but i thought it was good while not being great, it does a neat job of quickly anchoring it's time setting (1918) even down to the font of the beginning credits as it very consciously evokes a sense of nostalgia even tho it's a modern movie linked to the future of its setting

there's a kind of The Wizard of Oz vibe in setting and visuals coupled with a strong nod to What Ever Happened to Baby Jane? -a brilliant film, even today, of its ilk it hasn't been done better and probably Bette Davis' best ever performance, joan crawford is excellent as well, if you haven't seen it, do yourself a favour and download it

Mia Goth as the central character is convincing as someone that has an unsettling presence altho not overtly threatening

i would recommend it but if someone said i watched that fucker you suggested and it was shite, i wouldn't be shocked

I went to watch Pearl in the cinema, to be honest quite fresh after watching X (which i enjoyed) i think there was 7 of us in the cinema to watch it but by the end it was just me and GF,  but i loved it though , Mia Goth such a great presence, hard to explain what kind of  movie it is as its not an easy recommendation but its so good, i get what you're saying there OP as loads would bail out on it but did you see what Martin Scorsese said about it? there's not many of this type of movie gets made anymore and im totally here for it, hard to pigeon hole and categorize but its ace, really good, also that end scene before the end scenes roll out where shes doing that fucked up forced smile, lol wtf

I get how loads would watch it and go wtf is this shite...

Also watched Black panther 2 which i thought was yeah just ok, predictable af and just 10 mins of a 90lbs black panther , not sure why its getting solid 9s, Marvel phase 4 has been utter shit

And watched Weird the Weird al Yankovic movie which i though was hilarious... a parody movie of a parody star... not what you'd expect

Top 10 movies this year is gonna be a fucked up list....

[Armand9]

I went to watch Pearl in the cinema, to be honest quite fresh after watching X (which i enjoyed) i think there was 7 of us in the cinema to watch it but by the end it was just me and GF,  but i loved it though , Mia Goth such a great presence, hard to explain what kind of  movie it is as its not an easy recommendation but its so good, i get what you're saying there OP as loads would bail out on it but did you see what Martin Scorsese said about it? there's not many of this type of movie gets made anymore and im totally here for it, hard to pigeon hole and categorize but its ace, really good, also that end scene before the end scenes roll out where shes doing that fucked up forced smile, lol wtf

yeah the end face lol, brave

at first it strikes you as strange simply cos the camera lingers 'too long', taking you out of your comfort zone, then it has the 'trying too hard' vibe, which morphed into yep, that was quite something and brilliantly done

one of those ideas that could easily fall straight on its ass and a terrible call to end your movie that way but if it comes off it's special and she nailed it, props to Goth

just read scorsese's take on it, thanks for that, the main point to me and he is someone who can certainly comment on it is the “Ti West’s movies have a kind of energy that is so rare these days, powered by a pure, undiluted love for cinema" quote and the ramifications of that we see on the screen (as i said earlier, the opening credits alone flags that from the off). And if you are someone familiar with cinema down the ages you'll get exactly what he means. To put it crudely, it's a modern film that looks and feels old, not because of the time setting but cos it harks back to old cinema in the way it's shot and presented.

[Fabulous_aurelio]

Not sure if mentioned, but I recently watched Calibre on Netflix.

I highly recommend it. It's a pure thriller set in Scotland.

I honestly thought it was fantastic. As a horror and thriller fan, I found it almost too tense!!

[John_P]

Saw the new Bill Nighy film 'Living' this week which he's absolutely tremendous in.

[jackh]

Went to see 'A Bunch of Amateurs' this evening - lovely film, touching upon companionship, loss, and persevering with passions.

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[Armand9]

you're know you're old (or the world has gone mad) when you see an item about 'stars before they were famous' and they have kevin costner listed with dances with wolves (top film btw)

uhm, wtf 

he was one of the biggest names around at the time, silly c*nts, and that was on imdb - you'd assume they knew their shit

he'd already done the untouchables and field of dreams so i have no fucking clue what bozo thought he was fucking near as unknown

[RedSince86]

you're know you're old (or the world has gone mad) when you see an item about 'stars before they were famous' and they have kevin costner listed with dances with wolves (top film btw)

uhm, wtf 

he was one of the biggest names around at the time, silly c*nts, and that was on imdb - you'd assume they knew their shit

he'd already done the untouchables and field of dreams so i have no fucking clue what bozo thought he was fucking near as unknown

JFK as well.

He had an amazing run of films, then he did Waterworld and The Postman and Hollywood wash their hands with him for A list stuff after they were massive Turkey's.

The film he did about the Cuban missile crisis in the early 00's was fantastic, he was great in that.

[Crosby Nick]

27 (?) Days wasn’t it?