Author Topic: Hannibal (TV Series) (Read 44360 times)

just Riggins? · « **Reply #160 on:** December 1, 2013, 05:35:49 pm »

Been marathoning this all weekend after getting it on now TV, head is well and truly wrecked. Watched a few episodes of American horror story beforehand too.

It's alright, not for everyone though

elbow · « **Reply #161 on:** January 31, 2014, 12:22:55 am »

Season two is out soon, just saw this poster:

Yiannis · « **Reply #162 on:** January 31, 2014, 12:30:53 pm »

Dan Dando · « **Reply #163 on:** January 31, 2014, 04:36:39 pm »

http://youtu.be/XVhl6WgMTGw

Surprised no one has posted this - the trailer for Hannibal: Season Two

Beware, it's an extremely spoilery (but great) trailer.

DanFromMars · « **Reply #164 on:** February 2, 2014, 01:15:31 am »

Looks great, really enjoyed the first season, though not sure if they can push past a second showing. Going out with a bang on the second series will do me. I still feel dirty after Dexter...

Dan Dando · « **Reply #165 on:** February 2, 2014, 01:18:29 am »

Quote from: DanFromMars on February 2, 2014, 01:15:31 am

Looks great, really enjoyed the first season, though not sure if they can push past a second showing. Going out with a bang on the second series will do me. I still feel dirty after Dexter...

Have faith in Bryan Fuller

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/ustv/s225/hannibal/news/a491414/hannibal-bryan-fuller-on-future-silence-of-the-lambs-is-season-five.html

Also, Jimmy Darmody's been cast as Mason Verger (the character Gary Oldman played in Hannibal, the film)

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/ustv/s225/hannibal/news/a548197/hannibal-boardwalk-empires-michael-pitt-to-play-villain-mason-verger.html

brownie 09 · « **Reply #166 on:** February 2, 2014, 01:30:11 am »

Love the version of stand by me in the trailer.

Yiannis · « **Reply #167 on:** February 2, 2014, 11:35:17 am »

Michael Pitt from Boardwalk Empire will be in the new season. Don't know if it will be a guest appearance or a season character but good news anyway.

Dan Dando · « **Reply #168 on:** February 2, 2014, 02:30:46 pm »

Quote from: Yiannis on February 2, 2014, 11:35:17 am

Michael Pitt from Boardwalk Empire will be in the new season. Don't know if it will be a guest appearance or a season character but good news anyway.

He's playing quite a big role, that of Mason Verger (Gary Oldman played him in Hannibal, the film)

dave 5516 · « **Reply #169 on:** February 2, 2014, 06:16:39 pm »

Quote from: Dan Dando on February 2, 2014, 02:30:46 pm

He's playing quite a big role, that of Mason Verger (Gary Oldman played him in Hannibal, the film)

He's in for quite a torrid time then.[img width= height=]http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/devilgrin.gif[/img]

Dingle Red · « **Reply #170 on:** February 2, 2014, 07:55:06 pm »

Can't wait for the second season of this, one of the best shows around, Mads Mikkleson is fucking Brilliant.

Walk On · « **Reply #171 on:** February 3, 2014, 04:33:06 pm »

Quote from: Dingle Red on February 2, 2014, 07:55:06 pm

Can't wait for the second season of this, one of the best shows around, Mads Mikkleson is fucking Brilliant.

Ditto! It's going to be tastey

Redman0151 · « **Reply #172 on:** February 3, 2014, 06:28:42 pm »

Excited for this. Still extremely worried it'll get cancelled though, ratings aren't great and I have no idea why

Chakan · « **Reply #173 on:** February 3, 2014, 06:30:04 pm »

Quote from: Crosby Wych on February 3, 2014, 06:28:42 pm

Excited for this. Still extremely worried it'll get cancelled though, ratings aren't great and I have no idea why

Cause it's an intellectual program in the US?

Dan Dando · « **Reply #174 on:** February 3, 2014, 07:52:22 pm »

Quote from: Crosby Wych on February 3, 2014, 06:28:42 pm

Excited for this. Still extremely worried it'll get cancelled though, ratings aren't great and I have no idea why

I wouldn't worry too much about that. Hannibal is a different animal to most television shows as it's produced under a different model at a license fee that is a fraction of what dramas with similar production values cost. It's a multi-national show owned by a company called Gaumont International Television. NBC can't cancel it as such, they can only stop showing it... so if NBC did decide to part ways with Gaumont it's very likely that Hannibal would end up on a different network without skipping a beat. In fact, when it looked like NBC might not renew it for a second season Amazon and Netflix were very interested in taking it on. So, yeah, thankfully... low ratings on NBC can't and won't kill the show because it's such a cost-efficient and multi-national production.

Redman0151 · « **Reply #175 on:** February 3, 2014, 09:38:51 pm »

Quote from: Dan Dando on February 3, 2014, 07:52:22 pm

I wouldn't worry too much about that. Hannibal is a different animal to most television shows as it's produced under a different model at a license fee that is a fraction of what dramas with similar production values cost. It's a multi-national show owned by a company called Gaumont International Television. NBC can't cancel it as such, they can only stop showing it... so if NBC did decide to part ways with Gaumont it's very likely that Hannibal would end up on a different network without skipping a beat. In fact, when it looked like NBC might not renew it for a second season Amazon and Netflix were very interested in taking it on. So, yeah, thankfully... low ratings on NBC can't and won't kill the show because it's such a cost-efficient and multi-national production.

Did not know that, that's great news

Would love to see it on Netflix

JJ Red · « **Reply #176 on:** February 4, 2014, 08:37:34 am »

Just got into this last week and have already watched all of season 1 via On Demand. Really enjoyed it but i do think they may have gone too quickly with the storyline. I would have preferred to see a bit more build up to the big reveal when Will finally works it out.

Of course the posts above regarding NBC not being sure about season 2 may have influenced this. Cannot believe some of the shit that seems to get renewed without a whisper and yet a quality show like this appears to have a uncertain future.

I read on Wiki that the creator sees it as a 7 season run with the first 3 seasons covering the first book. Looking at the trailer above i just wonder if the writers are pressing fast forward a little bit.

Dan Dando · « **Reply #177 on:** February 5, 2014, 11:00:36 pm »

Quote from: JJ Red on February 4, 2014, 08:37:34 am

Just got into this last week and have already watched all of season 1 via On Demand. Really enjoyed it but i do think they may have gone too quickly with the storyline. I would have preferred to see a bit more build up to the big reveal when Will finally works it out.

Of course the posts above regarding NBC not being sure about season 2 may have influenced this. Cannot believe some of the shit that seems to get renewed without a whisper and yet a quality show like this appears to have a uncertain future.

I read on Wiki that the creator sees it as a 7 season run with the first 3 seasons covering the first book. Looking at the trailer above i just wonder if the writers are pressing fast forward a little bit.

I understand your concerns but I think the way Bryan Fuller has handled things so far has been pretty good.

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Will finding out at the end of season one... works.

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- If the show had gone into it's second season without that reveal then I think the show would have bemused and possibly alienated some viewers.

When you mention the trailer above I can only assume you're referring to the scene teased where

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Hannibal tries to kill Crawford.

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Well, season two is actually going to start with that scene and then after that opening scene it'll be revealed as a flash-forward - so then the season will lead up to that.

I remember Bryan Fuller mentioned once that his plan for season three was

Spoiler

to have Hannibal on the run, he's been found out by everyone now at the FBI, not just Will. At the end of season three Hannibal would be captured, imprisoned and then season four would see the introduction of Francis Dolarhyde. Season five and onwards would then be Silence of the Lambs/Hannibal book territory, if Fuller's able to secure the rights to characters like Clarice Starling and Buffalo Bill.

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So you don't have to worry. All seems to be going according to the plan that Fuller spoke a lot about last year. And, like I said a couple of posts up, this show doesn't have the uncertain future that some people think it has. Sure, it's got an uncertain future on NBC - but there will be plenty of takers waiting in the wings if NBC don't renew it for a season three.

elbow · « **Reply #178 on:** February 5, 2014, 11:31:02 pm »

Quote from: Dan Dando on February 5, 2014, 11:00:36 pm

I understand your concerns but I think the way Bryan Fuller has handled things so far has been pretty good.
Spoiler
Will finding out at the end of season one... works.
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- If the show had gone into it's second season without that reveal then I think the show would have bemused and possibly alienated some viewers.

When you mention the trailer above I can only assume you're referring to the scene teased where
Spoiler
Hannibal tries to kill Crawford.
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Well, season two is actually going to start with that scene and then after that opening scene it'll be revealed as a flash-forward - so then the season will lead up to that.

I remember Bryan Fuller mentioned once that his plan for season three was
Spoiler
to have Hannibal on the run, he's been found out by everyone now at the FBI, not just Will. At the end of season three Hannibal would be captured, imprisoned and then season four would see the introduction of Francis Dolarhyde. Season five and onwards would then be Silence of the Lambs/Hannibal book territory, if Fuller's able to secure the rights to characters like Clarice Starling and Buffalo Bill.
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So you don't have to worry. All seems to be going according to the plan that Fuller spoke a lot about last year. And, like I said a couple of posts up, this show doesn't have the uncertain future that some people think it has. Sure, it's got an uncertain future on NBC - but there will be plenty of takers waiting in the wings if NBC don't renew it for a season three.

Nice summation mate. I must admit, I was pleasantly surprised to see this back on. Hopefully the story arc that Fuller alludes to will get the chance to be realised.

JJ Red · « **Reply #179 on:** February 6, 2014, 08:08:23 am »

Quote from: Dan Dando on February 5, 2014, 11:00:36 pm

Thanks for your info mate.

Whatever happens, or what the plan is, i love the show.

Dan Dando · « **Reply #180 on:** February 6, 2014, 06:56:54 pm »

No problem, guys. Happy to be of use

Here's another trailer if you fancy a gander. Once again though, beware, spoilers and that.

http://youtu.be/FtDb89c7rWA (P.S. - How do you embed things? I'm useless)

Walk On · « **Reply #181 on:** February 14, 2014, 09:44:35 am »

Quote from: Dan Dando on February 6, 2014, 06:56:54 pm

No problem, guys. Happy to be of use

Here's another trailer if you fancy a gander. Once again though, beware, spoilers and that.

http://youtu.be/FtDb89c7rWA (P.S. - How do you embed things? I'm useless)

This looks great.
Besides the storyline, the cinematography is just brilliant.

Dan Dando · « **Reply #182 on:** February 14, 2014, 07:07:27 pm »

http://www.joblo.com/horror-movies/news/cool-horror-gear-gorgeous-hannibal-poster-from-mondo

How about that for a poster?

Dan Dando · « **Reply #183 on:** February 22, 2014, 04:38:48 am »

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Here are four brief but intriguing clips from the season two premiere, titled... 'Kaiseki'

Spoilers ahoy, naturally.

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I'm fascinated by the fourth one - seeing Hannibal be the new Will Graham when it comes to crime scenes/hunting other killers... is going to be really interesting.

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Dan Dando · « **Reply #184 on:** February 28, 2014, 11:03:46 am »

Trying my hardest to keep this thread alive

- although I assume it'll pick up a bit more since season two starts tonight over in the US. Here's an incredibly positive review.

http://www.avclub.com/review/hannibal-seems-intent-becoming-tvs-best-show-201631

Ziltoid · « **Reply #185 on:** February 28, 2014, 11:09:42 am »

No date for the UK yet?

Dan Dando · « **Reply #186 on:** February 28, 2014, 11:15:19 am »

Quote from: Ziltoid on February 28, 2014, 11:09:42 am

No date for the UK yet?

Not yet. Season 1 aired at the beginning of May last year though.

dave 5516 · « **Reply #187 on:** February 28, 2014, 01:22:38 pm »

Lets hope it's better than last season and concentrates on the real dynamic and not stupid set piece murders like last season.

Dan Dando · « **Reply #188 on:** February 28, 2014, 02:14:47 pm »

Quote from: dave 5516 on February 28, 2014, 01:22:38 pm

Lets hope it's better than last season and concentrates on the real dynamic and not stupid set piece murders like last season.

I don't think they were stupid to be honest. I thought most of them resembled works of art at times, like extravagant paintings, or something. They were often baroque and over the top but I think they were pretty beautiful really. I can see why they went down that path too as the show right now is currently pre-incarcerated Lecter, pre-Dolarhyde - so there had to be crimes for Will and the FBI to solve and... so if there has to be murders... why not make them almost slightly fantastical instead of just having dull and miserable crime scenes.

dave 5516 · « **Reply #189 on:** February 28, 2014, 02:31:38 pm »

Quote from: Dan Dando on February 28, 2014, 02:14:47 pm

I don't think they were stupid to be honest. I thought most of them resembled works of art at times, like extravagant paintings, or something. They were often baroque and over the top but I think they were pretty beautiful really. I can see why they went down that path too as the show right now is currently pre-incarcerated Lecter, pre-Dolarhyde - so there had to be crimes for Will and the FBI to solve and... so if there has to be murders... why not make them almost slightly fantastical instead of just having dull and miserable crime scenes.

Like the corpse totem pole erected by an oap...smashing film making.

It was stupid and insulting as I posted earlier in the thread.Just because the storyline is at this point doesn't mean it has to over the top...there's already a great story to be told but as it's mainstream American tv it won't be as dark as it should be and that'll be it's downfall.

It's not as stupid as The Following and it's not as clever as people think it is.It only became interesting at the end of the season..hopefully they remain true to the similarities and parallels of Graham and Lektor as was seen in Manhunter

Do that and it'll be a lot better,don't and well.....

Dan Dando · « **Reply #190 on:** March 1, 2014, 04:47:52 pm »

Quote from: dave 5516 on February 28, 2014, 02:31:38 pm

It was stupid and insulting

Oh, well, agree to disagree and... whatnot.

Season 2 premiere was terrific

Il Capitano · « **Reply #191 on:** March 1, 2014, 10:00:14 pm »

Quote from: dave 5516 on February 28, 2014, 02:31:38 pm

It only became interesting at the end of the season..

No it didn't. We got to experience the slow unravelling of Graham's mental stability as the series progressed, as conversely the darker side of Lecter became increasingly visible.

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I found the entire season to be brilliantly dark, with some terrifying moments at times - seeing Mads Mikkelsen dressed up American Psycho-style suit-raincoat wearing an utterly icy expression, during the girl-under-the-bed episode, has to be up there as one of the most genuinely fear-inducing sights I've ever seen in television.

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But if you wanted bland serial-killer crimescene shit, I'm sure there's lots of generic cop shows that'll peak your interest...

MagicB8all · « **Reply #192 on:** March 2, 2014, 03:00:02 am »

Quote

"I'm not the psychopath you're looking for"

dave 5516 · « **Reply #193 on:** March 2, 2014, 10:13:07 am »

Quote from: Il Capitano on March 1, 2014, 10:00:14 pm

No it didn't. We got to experience the slow unravelling of Graham's mental stability as the series progressed, as conversely the darker side of Lecter became increasingly visible.

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I found the entire season to be brilliantly dark, with some terrifying moments at times - seeing Mads Mikkelsen dressed up American Psycho-style suit-raincoat wearing an utterly icy expression, during the girl-under-the-bed episode, has to be up there as one of the most genuinely fear-inducing sights I've ever seen in television.
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But if you wanted bland serial-killer crimescene shit, I'm sure there's lots of generic cop shows that'll peak your interest...

My problem isn't with the dynamic between Lector and Graham it's with the staged murder's that add nothing to the story ...for me....if you're amused fine...I'm not.

I was underwhelmed by the side stories and found the posing of murders stupid.Sometimes less is more as Brian Cox showed in Manhunter...still the best and scariest portray of Lektor.

There's a scene in Manhunter where Graham visits Lektor to "rekindle his feelings",in the scene Graham ask's Lektor to look over the case he's working on and in doing so he appears to show deference to Lektor's greater understanding of the human psyche, in doing so the suggestion is that there's a kind of symbiosis at work.....Graham has to reach into a dark repressed part of his psyche to help solve the murders and can only do that by visiting Lektor.

That's what I'm interested in and is the reason I'm still watching...similarities and parallels of Graham and Lektor the not all the extraneous fluff...as I said in my previous post....do you understand now?

As to the generic CSI bit I'm insulted.

Il Capitano · « **Reply #194 on:** March 2, 2014, 01:27:09 pm »

Quote from: dave 5516 on March 2, 2014, 10:13:07 am

My problem isn't with the dynamic between Lector and Graham it's with the staged murder's that add nothing to the story ...for me....if you're amused fine...I'm not.

I was underwhelmed by the side stories and found the posing of murders stupid.Sometimes less is more as Brian Cox showed in Manhunter...still the best and scariest portray of Lektor.

There's a scene in Manhunter where Graham visits Lektor to "rekindle his feelings",in the scene Graham ask's Lektor to look over the case he's working on and in doing so he appears to show deference to Lektor's greater understanding of the human psyche, in doing so the suggestion is that there's a kind of symbiosis at work.....Graham has to reach into a dark repressed part of his psyche to help solve the murders and can only do that by visiting Lektor.

That's what I'm interested in and is the reason I'm still watching...similarities and parallels of Graham and Lektor the not all the extraneous fluff...as I said in my previous post....do you understand now?

As to the generic CSI bit I'm insulted.

Ah okay, fair enough mate, I apologise. I think part of the reason behind the set-piece murders is, of course, to give each episode some distinction and memorability - but also it has a visible impact on Graham to see such raw horror presented artistically. It indicates a real gruesomeness on the part of the killer, and to portray demonstrable mental distress from Graham, I guess the idea is to shock the viewer somewhat at the same time. It allows you to relate to Will - though obviously he has to deal with all stimulation in a much more vivid way, as an empath - and you find yourself empathising with his struggle, both mentally and with respect to his relationship with Lector. Conversely though, I often find myself drawn to Hannibal as a character - the performance of Mikkelsen gives him an incredibly impressive presence, and he's always been an absolutely fascinating villain.

dave 5516 · « **Reply #195 on:** March 2, 2014, 01:49:26 pm »

Quote from: Il Capitano on March 2, 2014, 01:27:09 pm

Ah okay, fair enough mate, I apologise. I think part of the reason behind the set-piece murders is, of course, to give each episode some distinction and memorability - but also it has a visible impact on Graham to see such raw horror presented artistically. It indicates a real gruesomeness on the part of the killer, and to portray demonstrable mental distress from Graham, I guess the idea is to shock the viewer somewhat at the same time. It allows you to relate to Will - though obviously he has to deal with all stimulation in a much more vivid way, as an empath - and you find yourself empathising with his struggle, both mentally and with respect to his relationship with Lector. Conversely though, I often find myself drawn to Hannibal as a character - the performance of Mikkelsen gives him an incredibly impressive presence, and he's always been an absolutely fascinating villain.

I've just read my post and it comes across as pissy,it wasn't meant to be,nor was I serious about being insulted...should have smilied that line...no need for an apology.

I really want this to be success but I think it's caught between being accessible to people viewing for first time and people who've read the book and think Mann's film is the best version of the story.Hopefully all the character development we've seen continues to grow as the story is now becoming more interesting.

Dan Dando · « **Reply #196 on:** March 2, 2014, 02:14:18 pm »

Quote from: Il Capitano on March 2, 2014, 01:27:09 pm

Conversely though, I often find myself drawn to Hannibal as a character - the performance of Mikkelsen gives him an incredibly impressive presence, and he's always been an absolutely fascinating villain.

Mikkelsen is wonderful, isn't he? I find I'm unable to look away when he's on screen - he has such a gift for micro-expressions.

Dingle Red · « **Reply #197 on:** March 4, 2014, 08:13:56 pm »

Quote from: Dan Dando on March 2, 2014, 02:14:18 pm

Mikkelsen is wonderful, isn't he? I find I'm unable to look away when he's on screen - he has such a gift for micro-expressions.

He is Cool as fuck mate.

Yiannis · « **Reply #198 on:** March 5, 2014, 10:12:25 am »

His brother was the villain in Sherlock's last season and he was excellent as well. It's a family thing

Dingle Red · « **Reply #199 on:** March 15, 2014, 01:53:31 am »

Just watched the 1st episode of season 2, this show is fucking Boss a lot better than some shows I've seen Wanked over in the last few years, just seems like no-one watches it.