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Re: URGENT: Hicks's 281m loan - campaign to fight for our club!
« Reply #120 on: September 19, 2010, 10:56:33 am »
Done.  Got this back from DK Partners:

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Re: URGENT: Hicks's 281m loan - campaign to fight for our club!
« Reply #121 on: September 19, 2010, 10:56:56 am »
I am going to contact a few people in that type of area and see what would really hurt them. At the moment though i think we should target the companies who they have investedin and let THEM know why we aren't buying their product. Let them see what their association with Blackstone will lead to, just a taster. Maybe they will contact Blackstone and inform them about what is happening. We boycotted the sun newspaper, how about united biscuits: here are their brands:

http://www.unitedbiscuits.com/brands-page.php

Loads in there.

Dont buy them, and maybe we could get the media to report on a liverpool wide boycott?



if we have any shop owners why not dont stock these biscuits and put up a sign to your customers why!
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« Reply #122 on: September 19, 2010, 10:56:57 am »
sent, to all of the above. Got 3 failures and one out of office.

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Re: URGENT: Hicks's 281m loan - campaign to fight for our club!
« Reply #123 on: September 19, 2010, 10:57:01 am »
So if Hicks does get this Loan and is paying off Gillet then that means that Gillet values his 50% share of the Club alot lower than 600mil - 800mil as Hicks has been asking for then ! ? Anyone have any answers to why Gillet would accept Hicks offer for 50% of the Club that he himself values at 600mil to 800mil ? Doesnt make sense to me and surely Gillet could Block it if he wanted and ask for the ammount that Hicks values the Club at !

Its like if i was a in a Business Partnership and my partner valued the Business at 100 mil then offered me 15mil for my 50% ! ? Thats my take on it , maybe am missing something here ? I certainley would be very stupid to accept it though wouldnt i ! ? Anyone ?
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Re: URGENT: Hicks's 281m loan - campaign to fight for our club!
« Reply #124 on: September 19, 2010, 10:57:44 am »
marion is out but got his cell phone number saved!
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Re: URGENT: Hicks's 281m loan - campaign to fight for our club!
« Reply #125 on: September 19, 2010, 10:59:02 am »
Has anyone else received an "out of office" notice from mbrancaccio@stonetowercapital.com leaving a cell number?

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Re: URGENT: Hicks's 281m loan - campaign to fight for our club!
« Reply #126 on: September 19, 2010, 10:59:05 am »
Mails sent from 4 different addressses

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« Reply #127 on: September 19, 2010, 10:59:46 am »
Done.
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Re: URGENT: Hicks's 281m loan - campaign to fight for our club!
« Reply #128 on: September 19, 2010, 10:59:55 am »
So if Hicks does get this Loan and is paying off Gillet then that means that Gillet values his 50% share of the Club alot lower than 600mil - 800mil as Hicks has been asking for then ! ? Anyone have any answers to why Gillet would accept Hicks offer for 50% of the Club that he himself values at 600mil to 800mil ? Doesnt make sense to me and surely Gillet could Block it if he wanted and ask for the ammount that Hicks values the Club at !

Its like if i was a in a Business Partnership and my partner valued the Business at 100 mil then offered me 15mil for my 50% ! ? Thats my take on it , maybe am missing something here ? I certainley would be very stupid to accept it though wouldnt i ! ? Anyone ?
you would be if you werent desperate for cash...NOW.

from the rumours ,gillette needs cash NOW

but was a good observation !
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Re: URGENT: Hicks's 281m loan - campaign to fight for our club!
« Reply #129 on: September 19, 2010, 11:00:55 am »
Sent. 

I'm at a loss as to what Hicks thinks he's going to achieve with all this.  If the loan is for two years, does he not realise that without new owners the club is more than likely to decline in value ?  Torres and Gerrard aren't likely to be playing for us (Gerrard may play a Scholes like role), we're certainly not going to be an attractive proposition for sponsorship/endorsements and that's before the likely drop down the league.  He's hanging on in some deluded state hoping that the stadium will materialise and he'll make a profit, he won't.

While the man is an utter prick, he has been mildly successful, I'd love to know what he thinks he'll get out of this.

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« Reply #130 on: September 19, 2010, 11:01:44 am »
But if you send a text then they pay the difference on the overseas rate! :D

Marian is a SHE. I called her.

She was sleeping and told that it was early in the morning so I should call her sometime in the afternoon. Initially the call was forwarder to her voice mail/Auto response thing. Then she gave me a missed call and I called her back. Told her that I was from India and that any loan deal they approve in favor of Tom Hicks to the tune of $500m would be suicidal and that we are willing to boycott all the services that he offers us and he'd have no money to pay them back.

She said she doesn't have a fucking clue as to who or what Liverpool/Tom Hicks is and she doesn't work in M&A or loans.
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Re: URGENT: Hicks's 281m loan - campaign to fight for our club!
« Reply #131 on: September 19, 2010, 11:03:31 am »
Sent.
hopefully, just one of the people who make the decisions actually read this and think.. fuck it this aint worth the drama.
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« Reply #132 on: September 19, 2010, 11:04:00 am »
A bit of googling tells me that she is the 'General Counsel and Chief Compliace Officer' of Stone Towers Capital. It's a debt advising company. May be she doesn't have a clue because all she does is check for compliance.
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« Reply #133 on: September 19, 2010, 11:05:52 am »
Make sure you all write your own emails and not just cut and paste the original. Otherwise they'll just treat is as spam and delete them immediately.
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Re: URGENT: Hicks's 281m loan - campaign to fight for our club!
« Reply #134 on: September 19, 2010, 11:07:27 am »
Emails have been sent - any returned will be followed up in Letter form.

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« Reply #135 on: September 19, 2010, 11:07:36 am »
As I said earlier, don't call the cell, don't worry about bounce-backs atm. The important people on the list are the Blackstone/GSO guys; we're looking into ways of upping the heat on them and that includes tmsteve's excellent idea of a boycott of their UK interests. In the interim, send an email to them - you can tell them we're currently researching their UK interests prior to calling for a complete boycott, if you like. Just so they know we're opening new fronts in the war even as they deal with the first wave of assaults.

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« Reply #136 on: September 19, 2010, 11:10:18 am »
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« Reply #137 on: September 19, 2010, 11:10:18 am »
As I said earlier, don't call the cell, don't worry about bounce-backs atm. The important people on the list are the Blackstone/GSO guys; we're looking into ways of upping the heat on them and that includes tmsteve's excellent idea of a boycott of their UK interests. In the interim, send an email to them - you can tell them we're currently researching their UK interests prior to calling for a complete boycott, if you like. Just so they know we're opening new fronts in the war even as they deal with the first wave of assaults.

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Re: URGENT: Hicks's 281m loan - campaign to fight for our club!
« Reply #138 on: September 19, 2010, 11:12:26 am »
I've lost count of the amount of e-mails I have sent.....the hours spent....thinking we were actually getting somewhere....

This news is like a kick in the fucking teeth and I'm thinking...does it even fucking matter what we do?

Seems like the only way we're going to get through to these leeching bastards is to stop lining their pockets. Stop buying official merchandise....stop going to the match...

Here we are, on the morning of what should be one of the biggest games of the season and I am struggling to give a fuck.

Heartbreaking.
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Re: URGENT: Hicks's 281m loan - campaign to fight for our club!
« Reply #139 on: September 19, 2010, 11:14:27 am »
I've lost count of the amount of e-mails I have sent.....the hours spent....thinking we were actually getting somewhere....

This news is like a kick in the fucking teeth and I'm thinking...does it even fucking matter what we do?

Seems like the only way we're going to get through to these leeching bastards is to stop lining their pockets. Stop buying official merchandise....stop going to the match...

Here we are, on the morning of what should be one of the biggest games of the season and I am struggling to give a fuck.

Heartbreaking.

It needs to be taken to the next level mate - its time for a Boycott to be honest. The e-mail campaigns etc have been very good and should continue, but its clear they aren't working as fast as we need it too - its time to ramp up the action and take the hardest possible course of action we can.

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Re: URGENT: Hicks's 281m loan - campaign to fight for our club!
« Reply #140 on: September 19, 2010, 11:14:50 am »
Following email sent (copy of the original template, with a previous email of mine added to the beginning):

Dear Sir/Madam,

I write to you as a lifelong supporter of Liverpool Football Club who along with many others as I’m sure you are well aware by now is deeply concerned at the way our club is being run, and threatens to be run for the foreseeable future. I was brought up supporting the club by my Liverpool-born father, an ex season ticker holder, and have a huge emotional attachment to the club which is in serious danger of collapse.

The current owners, Tom Hicks and George Gillett, have proved throughout their ownership that they are incapable of running a successful football club. They have taken us from a club consistently qualifying for, progressing to the later stages of, and even winning (for the 5th time, only 2 clubs in the world can better this) the most prestigious club competition The Champions League, to a team now struggling to qualify for the much less prestigious and financially rewarding Europa League. Due to the financial constraints brought on by the massive debts Hicks and Gillett have heaped on our club (despite their promises not to do so), and the massive interest payments that are being charged on this debt, we have been forced to sell some of our most valuable assets, with little done to replace those assets. Despite their promises we are yet to see a “spade in the ground” to commence the building of a new stadium, and there are no signs that they will ever have the finance to move ahead with these plans for a new ground. Furthermore there are no signs that, should they be allowed to refinance, they will have the funds to purchase the players required to compete at the level now required in the Premier League.

This morning I, and the millions of Liverpool supporters around the globe, woke to news that Hicks is close to a £281m refinance deal to allow him to take sole ownership of the club, and give him another 2 years to sell the club. If reports are true, then this deal includes no finance for strengthening the squad or building the new stadium - Liverpool FC will therefore continue their downward spiral from what was once one of the, if not THE, best clubs in the world, to a club struggling to even stay in the top flight of English football.

Should Blackstone/GSO or any other of the financial institutions cc-ed to this email bail out Tom Hicks, you will be taking a heavy risk, even without the hostility of the supporters of the club.

You are no doubt aware that Hicks Sports Group defaulted on a $525m loan last year and the details of the lenders’ outrage at his subsequent manoeuvres concerning land around the Texas Rangers’ stadium. If not, we would be happy to provide you with the details.

Hicks subsequently gave interviews making clear that the default was ‘strategic’ and painting himself as a successful businessman in other fields.

Hicks cannot have it both ways. Either he is a successful businessman – in which case he thinks nothing of reneging on financial agreements if they prove onerous to him – or he did not have the money to repay the loan. In neither case can he be considered a good risk for repayment of a large loan.

No doubt, Hicks has portrayed LFC as a successful vehicle with a growing commercial profile and the ability to repay high interest payments in his approach to you. As detailed above, LFC is in decline, thanks to Hicks’s tenure, and has dropped out of the lucrative Champions League. Its inability to support the interest on the current loans is one factor draining the on-pitch success that ensures off-pitch profit.

On Thursday, its ground was 20,000 short of capacity as fans stayed away. It is said that Hicks is seeking to mortgage the loan against the ground and players: if so, you should also be aware that the ground is worth little, being in an extremely depressed area of Liverpool, and the players have made publicly clear their opposition to Hicks’ continuation as owner so that it is likely the best will leave (their ability to pick their own destinations means there can be no guarantee of their achieving their highest worth) should he stay.

It is said that Hicks believes the supporters will accept him as a sole owner. If he has indeed been so deluded as to have informed you of this, I now seek to correct the impression. Hicks and his son are held in contempt by millions of Liverpool supporters worldwide. We are increasingly mobilised and drastic measures, including boycotts, are now being discussed. We are not prepared to see the club we love bled to death.

Has he informed you about Liverpool’s worldwide supporter base? A word of advice: the lukewarm fans will drift away as the debt bleeds the club dry of success, the hardcore fans will boycott and do everything in their power to ensure Hicks is ousted without a penny of profit as quickly as possible.

Don’t believe me? Research us. Look at whom you are dealing with. Look at the boycott we carried out against The Sun newspaper after it defamed our supporters. Look at how we drove shock jockey S Cohen off the air when he insulted our dead. We are not the tame consumers you lbo people are used to dealing with. We are militant, passionate and committed. I don’t know how we will do it, I don’t know how long it will take, but we will drive Hicks from this club and your organisation will be the target of our considered and organised action if you bail him out.

The only way Liverpool Football Club can look to start rebuilding and moving forward is to see both Tom Hicks and George Gillett fully removed from the club.

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Re: URGENT: Hicks's 281m loan - campaign to fight for our club!
« Reply #141 on: September 19, 2010, 11:16:21 am »
I've lost count of the amount of e-mails I have sent.....the hours spent....thinking we were actually getting somewhere....

This news is like a kick in the fucking teeth and I'm thinking...does it even fucking matter what we do?

Seems like the only way we're going to get through to these leeching bastards is to stop lining their pockets. Stop buying official merchandise....stop going to the match... :thumbup

Here we are, on the morning of what should be one of the biggest games of the season and I am struggling to give a fuck.

Heartbreaking.
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« Reply #142 on: September 19, 2010, 11:17:18 am »
Emails sent.

Hopefully they aren't stupid enough to give Hicks any money.
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« Reply #143 on: September 19, 2010, 11:17:32 am »
Email sent to all campaign contacts Rob. I'll pm with the NY Reds details.

On it, fellas....   :wave

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« Reply #144 on: September 19, 2010, 11:17:42 am »
Posted the link to this thread on the Facebook site and asked people to email in. Will keep pumping that for as long as it takes. More to come as we get it - lots of people grafting on it despite there being a game on.

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« Reply #145 on: September 19, 2010, 11:20:15 am »
Well I already called Marian Brancaccio. Sorry :P


can't fault the dedication mate! the word will get around anyway
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« Reply #146 on: September 19, 2010, 11:21:12 am »
Done.

Got failures on these: -


tlevart@dkpartners.com
sleviant@dkpartners.com
jaranson@centerbridge.com

Slightly modified the email, and included a direct link to a BBC report on the Texas Rangers bankruptcy.


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Re: URGENT: Hicks's 281m loan - campaign to fight for our club!
« Reply #147 on: September 19, 2010, 11:21:26 am »
Sent my own , just kept it short sweet and to the point.
We need to get everybody on this, more care about what bacon face has said about Rafa than actually doing this.
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« Reply #148 on: September 19, 2010, 11:23:20 am »
Done. Got this reply, as i am sure others have:

Marian Brancaccio
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I am currently out of the office, returning on September 22.  If you have an urgent matter, please don't hesitate to contact me on my cell at 917.509.2021.  Thank you.


Not sure if this has been suggested, how about people bombard that Cell number with phone calls and text messages ?

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Re: URGENT: Hicks's 281m loan - campaign to fight for our club!
« Reply #149 on: September 19, 2010, 11:23:28 am »
done,  lets hope common sense prevails,

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« Reply #150 on: September 19, 2010, 11:23:33 am »
you would be if you werent desperate for cash...NOW.

from the rumours ,gillette needs cash NOW

but was a good observation !


Cheers didnt know he was so desperate , and he must be to back down to Hicks and baically surrender his half at such a price that will make him fell so small in comparison to Hicks and also make him feel like he has just been ripped off . As we all know there is no love lost between them dispite the facade they put on when in Public . Hicks must be laughing his Fat Facew Off at Gillet and US !
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Re: URGENT: Hicks's 281m loan - campaign to fight for our club!
« Reply #151 on: September 19, 2010, 11:23:47 am »
Sent. 

I'm at a loss as to what Hicks thinks he's going to achieve with all this.  If the loan is for two years, does he not realise that without new owners the club is more than likely to decline in value ?  Torres and Gerrard aren't likely to be playing for us (Gerrard may play a Scholes like role), we're certainly not going to be an attractive proposition for sponsorship/endorsements and that's before the likely drop down the league.  He's hanging on in some deluded state hoping that the stadium will materialise and he'll make a profit, he won't.

While the man is an utter prick, he has been mildly successful, I'd love to know what he thinks he'll get out of this.

I would guess the next round of TV deals is what hes holding out for.
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« Reply #152 on: September 19, 2010, 11:23:54 am »
You can all start by looking at the HIlton Liverpool and the Hampton by Hilton Liverpool hotels. All are part of Blackstone/GSO portfolio of UK assets.

try online booking for flexi rates ie can be cancelled on 24 hour notice. lets pick a date and book enmasse, fill the fuckers and then cancel. internet bookiing is the best way as they cant control it. someone pick a date, maybe a lFC home game........anyone?
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Re: URGENT: Hicks's 281m loan - campaign to fight for our club!
« Reply #153 on: September 19, 2010, 11:24:31 am »
I just cant see the logic behind the man....

Surely he can see he is on to a loser, that no matter what he does now its never going to turn out to be the big money spinner him and the other cancer thought it would be.

If the common fan in the street who works his 9-5 without a shred of business acumen can see that with no new stadium, no new investment our best players will leave and in turn we will drop down the league or even leagues like leeds did and the club will be worthless. 

Does he honestly think the name Liverpool Football Club guarentees title challenges? Look at last season, it doesnt! 

I am so close to the end with all this, i just want to be able to go and support my team without getting into an argument with a fellow fan over ownership.
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Re: URGENT: Hicks's 281m loan - campaign to fight for our club!
« Reply #154 on: September 19, 2010, 11:24:44 am »
According to The Telegraph Hicks is attempting to borrow £281 to refinance his deal!

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Re: URGENT: Hicks's 281m loan - campaign to fight for our club!
« Reply #155 on: September 19, 2010, 11:26:18 am »
According to The Telegraph Hicks is attempting to borrow £281 to refinance his deal!

No. Way.
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Re: URGENT: Hicks's 281m loan - campaign to fight for our club!
« Reply #156 on: September 19, 2010, 11:27:44 am »
You can all start by looking at the HIlton Liverpool and the Hampton by Hilton Liverpool hotels. All are part of Blackstone/GSO portfolio of UK assets.

try online booking for flexi rates ie can be cancelled on 24 hour notice. lets pick a date and book enmasse, fill the fuckers and then cancel. internet bookiing is the best way as they cant control it. someone pick a date, maybe a lFC home game........anyone?

thats a good tact, they need to know if they dare bail hicks out then their other interests will suffer
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Re: URGENT: Hicks's 281m loan - campaign to fight for our club!
« Reply #157 on: September 19, 2010, 11:31:26 am »
According to The Telegraph Hicks is attempting to borrow £281 to refinance his deal!

I have £282 so I can gazump the fucker!

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Re: URGENT: Hicks's 281m loan - campaign to fight for our club!
« Reply #158 on: September 19, 2010, 11:34:41 am »
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WANT TO ATTACK DEUTSCHE BANK AG.  - THEY ARE THE MAIN BANK INVOLVED IN HICKS ACQUISION II  -  This is the company who are apply for the new refinance deal.  As far as I am aware Deutsche Bank still do not have the amount of shareholders they need, so a spanner could quite possibly be put into the works there.  They have also recently taken over Deusche Post so I suspect will not like the idea of losing money

I could not find any email addresses but here are the main postal addresses to use.

Deutsche Bank AG
60 Wall Street
NEW YORK, NY 10005
USA

Tel: +1 212 250 2500

Deutsche Bank AG
1 Great Winchester Street
EC2N 2DB LONDON
GREAT BRITAIN

Tel: +44 20 754 58000

Deutsche Bank AG
One Raffles Quay
South Tower Level 17
SINGAPORE 048583

Tel: +65 6423 8001

THE HEAD OFFICE ADDRESS IS:
Dr Josef Ackermann - Chairman
Theodor-Heuss Alkee 70
60262 Frankfurt am Main
Deutschland

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Re: URGENT: Hicks's 281m loan - campaign to fight for our club!
« Reply #159 on: September 19, 2010, 11:37:55 am »
Faith, we need more info - where did you get the Deutsche Bank stuff from?