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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12280 on: January 18, 2019, 11:38:48 pm »
As an aside, I used to love prawns. I used to eat them until they came out my ears. Then about 3 years ago, I ate some while out to dinner. I was violently sick that night. I put it down to a dodgy batch and thought no more about it for a few weeks until I ate prawns again. Within a half hour or so I was sick again. This happened a couple of more times until I asked my doctor about it. He said it was likely that my body had just developed an allergy to them

Same thing happened my old man. He used to love nuts. He used to go through bags of them. Then one day his face swelled up like a beach ball and my mam had to rush him to hospital. Same thing, he had developed an allergy to them. He was 72 when that happened. He'd been eating nuts since he was a kid and then boom, all of a sudden, 70 years later, the doctor said he had to give them up

Alcohol is kind of the same. It can be developed. The danger with alcoholism though is that its main symptom isn't vomiting or swelling. It's main symptom is a mental obsession that overrides willpower and rational thought. That's what makes it so much more dangerous than most other allergy's
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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12281 on: January 20, 2019, 07:49:47 am »
How’s all you lot who’s doing “dry Jan” finding it??  My last drink was on NYE,and although I wouldn’t class myself as a heavy drinker,I do like a a bottle of wine or two on a Sat teatime/night,and regularly on a Sun afternoon in front of the football on tv.As a rule I’d never touch it on a week night before I’m due in at work.
Must admit I’m enjoying waking up feeling fresh,particularly on a Sunday morning,as opposed to having a fuzzy head.Ive also lost a little bit of weight as well,having tried to start watching what I eat also.
I’ve got alcohol (Stella,wine,Jim Beam etc) in the house,but not been tempted at all to be honest.The Mrs has carried on having her gin/wine on a weekend,where as I’ll be sat there with a coffe or lemonade.
Not sure what will happen when January is up,quite possible that I’ll carry on without the alcohol and maybe only drink socially on the few occasions when I go out with friends etc.
Just wondered how others were finding it.

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12282 on: January 22, 2019, 04:19:39 pm »
190 days up in my year off....

It's changed me. My whole attitude towards the way I used to drink and things I didn't think were that big a deal but seem stupid now.

Christmas/NYE was its own challenge....and sometimes i really did wanna have a drink (like I will if we win the league!).  But it wasn't too bad all in all

I think the main thing i've taken from this is that I can take it or leave it and I don't feel out of place or awkward within myself for doing that. Have put my energy towards other things and definitely can say my mind is more clear even when I am nowhere near a drinking situation.

I won't say I won't drink again...but I will say that my attitude towards has alcohol has matured a hell of a lot. A couple of guys in my social group have even stopped drinking too....one for a few months and one potentially forever...he stopped a couple months after me

I'm glad my wife thought of this and to be honest we dont even mention drinking, joke about it sometimes but thats all...she aint a heavy drinker anyway but when she does its all good. I'm not judgmental on how others drink or dont drink, its a personal thing for everyone because to each their own but i think its been a wake up call for me and a needed one.

Hope everyone is doing ok with whatever stage they are at and thanks again for the kind messages at the start.


Not sure what will happen when January is up,quite possible that I’ll carry on without the alcohol and maybe only drink socially on the few occasions when I go out with friends etc.
Just wondered how others were finding it.

That's not a bad idea mate...just see how it goes!
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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12283 on: January 24, 2019, 01:58:14 pm »
Been off the booze 3 weeks today (City away was my last drink). The missus is due at the end of February so I thought I'd try and be responsible and take some time off in case the baby decides to come early.  It was something I had wanted to do for a long time, but never got around to it, as I've always been a creature of habit and routine, I always felt I deserved a few after a long week at work.

Since I have stopped boozing I have noticed that my anxiety levels on a Sunday evening or at work or just in my day to day life have plummeted. The past few weeks have been great and I haven't missed it at all. I know 3 weeks isn't a long time, but it is for me!

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12284 on: January 24, 2019, 04:20:34 pm »
I know 3 weeks isn't a long time, but it is for me!


It's usually around the 3 week mark that you'll start to sleep properly

You'll start going into rem sleep and sleeping all the way through the night without waking up

You might as well enjoy that before the baby arrives ;)
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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12285 on: January 25, 2019, 10:25:36 am »
Been off the booze 3 weeks today (City away was my last drink). The missus is due at the end of February so I thought I'd try and be responsible and take some time off in case the baby decides to come early.  It was something I had wanted to do for a long time, but never got around to it, as I've always been a creature of habit and routine, I always felt I deserved a few after a long week at work.


Same for me, except I’m not doing it for any reason other than to go a month without booze as I can’t remember ever having done that in my adult life, I allowed myself to drink for City away as well but haven’t drink for the rest of the month.

It’s been significantly easier than I expected, my main issue with alcohol is always not knowing when to stop rather than having a daily habit, although, I can easily develop a daily habit as well if I let myself fall into that pattern.

I’ve enjoyed the month, finance and behaviour is far more predictable when not drinking and I’ll definately drink less once February rolls around.

I’m not usually one for things like Dry January, but I guess if you don’t then ridiculously over compensate and instead use it as a catalyst for a better relationship with alcohol then it’s a good thing. At the end of the day, if you can’t remember going a month without a drink, then going a month without a drink is only going to be a good thing.
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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12286 on: January 25, 2019, 10:25:44 am »
It's usually around the 3 week mark that you'll start to sleep properly

You'll start going into rem sleep and sleeping all the way through the night without waking up

You might as well enjoy that before the baby arrives ;)

Now that you mention it the last few nights I've had the best sleep I've had in a long time.

I think from now on I will have a different outlook on booze and not feel the need just because it's what I have always done or just because it's the weekend. The last thing I want to do when the baby comes is to be hungover every Saturday and Sunday morning, well the missus wouldn't be having it anyway, and rightly so!

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12287 on: January 28, 2019, 06:14:36 pm »
Any of you ever come across any of those self proclaimed how-to-quit-drinking Guru's on YouTube?

There's one fella in particular who has got a lot of videos up. All designed to make you buy his "course"

Clearly hasn't a clue what the fuck he's talking about. Saw the fucker having a go at AA too

Poor form if you ask me
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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12288 on: January 28, 2019, 06:51:20 pm »
Any of you ever come across any of those self proclaimed how-to-quit-drinking Guru's on YouTube?

There's one fella in particular who has got a lot of videos up. All designed to make you buy his "course"

Clearly hasn't a clue what the fuck he's talking about. Saw the fucker having a go at AA too

Poor form if you ask me

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« Reply #12289 on: January 28, 2019, 09:30:42 pm »
The modern version of mediums.

Apparently his method is the "easy way" to quit drinking

Without having to go to "embarrassing AA meetings"

That's some seriously dangerous stuff to be coming out with
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« Reply #12290 on: January 28, 2019, 10:25:06 pm »
Apparently his method is the "easy way" to quit drinking

Without having to go to "embarrassing AA meetings"

That's some seriously dangerous stuff to be coming out with

And with all social media it panders to the gullible and vulnerable.

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« Reply #12291 on: January 28, 2019, 10:31:15 pm »
well done to Jm55 and morrison. I think it is good to keep posting both the positive and negative.

There is no easy way to quit booze but I am sure there is some fuckwit for every single one of life's ills offering some course where you get results without putting in any effort.

I love this group and the support it gives.

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12292 on: January 29, 2019, 09:13:09 am »
And with all social media it panders to the gullible and vulnerable.

From what I can glean, the bloke is a former problem drinker. His logic is if you change your mindset around alcohol then staying sober becomes easy. Which to be fair, is probably true if you're a problem drinker. Alcoholics on the other hand are a different category completely. This is what most people don't understand. A real alcoholic (as described in the AA book) is someone who is completely defenseless against the first drink. They have no power of will.

Hence why the very first line of the first step in AA is "We admitted we were powerless over alcohol". Carl was in this category. He was a real alcoholic who unfortunately drank himself to death. He shut the door on AA, which in my opinion is one of the main reasons why he's no longer with us. AA could have saved him had he been open to it.

This is what worries me about these "YouTube Gurus". Firstly, they don't understand what a real alcoholic is. Secondly they're not real alcoholics themselves, they're problem drinkers. Thirdly they're espousing unfounded and bad advice. Fourthly they don't seem to realize that the advice they are putting out there could potentially kill someone - especially if that person is a real deal alcoholic

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12293 on: February 11, 2019, 09:16:48 am »
Having successfully completed dry January and having hoped I’d finally got some kind of a grip on my issues with drink I’m now back where i started and ready to admit I actually need help.

I don’t drink daily, not anymore, although I did used to I was able to kick that into touch and only drink at weekends or for the occasional midweek Liverpool game. The issue I have is when I drink I’m
Usually unable to stop, I went to the pub for the Leicester game for example and ended up having 12 pints, by myself. Every time I drink it’s Russian roulette in that sometimes I can be totally fine, and others all hell breaks loose. What’s caused this post is on Friday I was at home with my girlfriend, had 4 Stella’s and nearly went to bed at that and let that be it. But something couldn’t quite let go, cut a long story short I ended up drinking over half a bottle of gin, 3 more beers, half a bottle of port and ended up ordering 300 quids worth of coke, whilst my girlfriend was in the house. She obviously woke up, took the drugs off me, and took my phone to stop me ordering more. I was in no way aggressive but was trying to get my phone back and ended up smashing into the staircase bannisters, falling down the stairs and causing other (luckily minor) damage to the house.

Anyway, she miraculously hasn’t broken up with me over it but has demanded I seek professional help, so that’s where I am now essentially.

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« Reply #12294 on: February 11, 2019, 09:36:49 am »
Having successfully completed dry January and having hoped I’d finally got some kind of a grip on my issues with drink I’m now back where i started and ready to admit I actually need help.

I don’t drink daily, not anymore, although I did used to I was able to kick that into touch and only drink at weekends or for the occasional midweek Liverpool game. The issue I have is when I drink I’m
Usually unable to stop, I went to the pub for the Leicester game for example and ended up having 12 pints, by myself. Every time I drink it’s Russian roulette in that sometimes I can be totally fine, and others all hell breaks loose. What’s caused this post is on Friday I was at home with my girlfriend, had 4 Stella’s and nearly went to bed at that and let that be it. But something couldn’t quite let go, cut a long story short I ended up drinking over half a bottle of gin, 3 more beers, half a bottle of port and ended up ordering 300 quids worth of coke, whilst my girlfriend was in the house. She obviously woke up, took the drugs off me, and took my phone to stop me ordering more. I was in no way aggressive but was trying to get my phone back and ended up smashing into the staircase bannisters, falling down the stairs and causing other (luckily minor) damage to the house.

Anyway, she miraculously hasn’t broken up with me over it but has demanded I seek professional help, so that’s where I am now essentially.

Feel for you mate.

You've made the first step. Admitting you have a problem that makes your life unmanageable and which you cannot control is Step 1 of the AA 12 step programme. You can go to a Psychotherapist and counselling but honestly the best thing to do right now is to find your nearest AA meeting and pop along.

It sounds as if your partner is being supportive which is great - she won't mind you attending AA. On the positive side, you are about to discover a whole new network of friends who understand what you are going through and who will help you, if you allow them to. And you are going to embark on a wonderful journey of self discovery.


PS - The addiction bubble can spread into other things, for which there are other groups available. AA will help you with Alcohol, but if you also have problems with drugs, gambling or sex&porn then consider taking yourself along to those groups too (Narcotics Anon, Gambling Anon, Sex Addicts Anon).
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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12295 on: February 11, 2019, 10:15:38 am »
Feel for you mate.

You've made the first step. Admitting you have a problem that makes your life unmanageable and which you cannot control is Step 1 of the AA 12 step programme. You can go to a Psychotherapist and counselling but honestly the best thing to do right now is to find your nearest AA meeting and pop along.

It sounds as if your partner is being supportive which is great - she won't mind you attending AA. On the positive side, you are about to discover a whole new network of friends who understand what you are going through and who will help you, if you allow them to. And you are going to embark on a wonderful journey of self discovery.


PS - The addiction bubble can spread into other things, for which there are other groups available. AA will help you with Alcohol, but if you also have problems with drugs, gambling or sex&porn then consider taking yourself along to those groups too (Narcotics Anon, Gambling Anon, Sex Addicts Anon).

Thanks for the reply.

Essentially I was in a quandry as to what help to seek but I guess it’s going to be AA.

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« Reply #12296 on: February 11, 2019, 10:48:28 am »
Thanks for the reply.

Essentially I was in a quandry as to what help to seek but I guess it’s going to be AA.

There are other sources of help. It may well be worth speaking to your GP and you could seek out Psychotherapy, but from my own experience whilst a counsellor\psychotherapist helps me to understand why I 'act out', that isn't enough to stop me. Only working a 12 step programme did that.

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« Reply #12297 on: February 11, 2019, 11:32:58 am »
There are other sources of help. It may well be worth speaking to your GP and you could seek out Psychotherapy, but from my own experience whilst a counsellor\psychotherapist helps me to understand why I 'act out', that isn't enough to stop me. Only working a 12 step programme did that.

Yeah, I think I’ll start with AA and take it from there.

It’s  just annoying as I’d finally managed to get w grip on the midweek drinking. Granted I was still drinking way over the 14 weekly units but to be honest I can live with that, I’d rather live a shorter life and enjoy it than follow every health guideline around.

What I can obviously tolerate is the complete c*nt I seem to turn into sometimes when I drink, and it’s totally unpredictable. The answer is obviously going to be quitting, which is a shame but I guess there’s worse things in life.

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12298 on: February 11, 2019, 06:59:38 pm »
Having successfully completed dry January and having hoped I’d finally got some kind of a grip on my issues with drink I’m now back where i started and ready to admit I actually need help

Contrary to popular opinion, admitting that you need help isn't a sign of weakness, it's a sign of strength. So well done on that front. You've taken a step in the right direction. From what you shared in your post, it sounds like you're the very same as me. Once the first drink is taken, all bets are off. Anything is likely to happen. That's the manifestation of the allergy

Below is a video that I think you might find useful. It gives a good explanation of what alcoholism actually is and explains why alcoholics are completely different to moderate drinkers. He explains how the allergy is two-fold. It's a body AND mind problem. It's a physical allergy, followed by a mental obsession, which gives rise to the phenomenon of craving, which if left untreated, will eventually kill you

I think it's useful to gain a proper understanding of the condition before you go see a therapist or walk into an AA room. It also helps to put the first step of AA into the correct context. Step 1 says "We admitted we were powerless over alcohol - that our lives had become unmanageable."

Your problem isn't the alcohol itself. Your problem is that your body is physically allergic to it and your mind has no power to control it once its enters your body. This will never change or reverse or subside or reduce in any way. You're stuck with it for life so it's probably useful to get familiar with the condition before you attempt to treat it. I hope this helps. If you need a sponsor pm me anytime

Start at 25 mins and 30 seconds and listen for about 10 minutes or so

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12299 on: February 12, 2019, 03:04:44 am »
Deffo a sign of strength  Take heart from that and best wishes to you.

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« Reply #12300 on: February 12, 2019, 09:20:43 am »
Thanks again for the replies, I’m going to an AA meeting this evening so I’ll give the video a watch today at some point.

The whole thing annoys me as I genuinely enjoy alcohol, some wine with dinner, beers at the weekend etc. I have a nice life and I’ve never drank to achieve oblivion. Like, I think, most people I occasionally think fuck it I’m getting drunk if it’s been a bad day, Liverpool lose or whatever, but you can count the number of times I drink for that reason on one hand really.

What it normally is is just I start out drinking to have a chilled night, and before I know it I’ve gone through 12 beers, spent 60 quid and that’s when I run the risk of doing something seriously damaging to a relationship or some other part of my personal life.

It’s a shame as like I say, I enjoy it and look forward to it at the weekend, but I can risk repeats on Friday night happening and the worrying thing about it is I never know what that’s ikely to happen.

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« Reply #12301 on: February 16, 2019, 08:42:28 pm »
One of those tales about someone who really does not know/accept their limits.

Went out with work on Wednesday - I was driving so had a Guinness at half 4 and then coke til I went home about 9. Another fella, who is 50 next year, was pissed by 8. Thursday he'd had to take a days holiday as he was unfit for work. Turns out one of the lads had to literally push him onto the tram at half 11 he was that far gone. Luckily it is only about a 20 minute journey to his stop.

He was in work yesterday - he rolled up at home at 1:15 am in a Black Cab with £35 on the meter, he somehow managed to barter the driver down to £25. He has no idea how he ended up in the cab, where he got it from, where he had been or anything. He still cannot remember a thing from just before getting on the tram to getting home, he does remember he drank 12 pints of Peroni though.
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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12302 on: February 17, 2019, 10:09:58 am »
That sounds like an average Saturday night out for most people
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« Reply #12303 on: February 17, 2019, 10:28:55 am »
That sounds like an average Saturday night out for most people

It is and it is pathetic. For just over a year as a 21yr old I was a very heavy drinker, a change of jobs stopped it. As I've gotten older, I've developed a take it or leave it attitude - I still like a drink and a session in the sun is nice. I've a few friends who are in their 40's who still act like teenagers and just make a show of themselves when drinking - it's sad really.
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« Reply #12304 on: February 17, 2019, 12:49:49 pm »
Personally, I think the reason why a lot of people behave like idiots when they're drunk is because it's how their mates act. Birds of a feather and all that. A lot of people don't have the self confidence or self assurance to call drinking out for the bullshit that it as so they just end up toeing along.

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12305 on: February 17, 2019, 01:44:44 pm »
It is and it is pathetic. For just over a year as a 21yr old I was a very heavy drinker, a change of jobs stopped it. As I've gotten older, I've developed a take it or leave it attitude - I still like a drink and a session in the sun is nice. I've a few friends who are in their 40's who still act like teenagers and just make a show of themselves when drinking - it's sad really.

I think drinking habits gave changed over the years as well. When I was younger we didn't pre load before went out nor were the shot drinking promotions on the go.

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12306 on: February 21, 2019, 02:59:12 pm »
When I was younger we didn't pre load before went out

We did.

This was in the 80's
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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12307 on: February 21, 2019, 03:11:26 pm »
We did.

This was in the 80's

I'd never heard of that until my nephews started drinking, thats about 6 years ago. I started going the pub in 84 when I was 17. We always just went out at 7, no drinking at home. When I moved to Southport we'd meet up at someones house or flat. might have one or two there, but it would then be off the pub and then the rock night. Ale was cheap as fuck in them days though.
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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12308 on: February 21, 2019, 03:12:35 pm »
We did.

This was in the 80's

Me too, round to somebody's flat for 2Ls of cider, cheap as chips and then out for some pints.

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12309 on: February 21, 2019, 03:14:10 pm »
We did.

This was in the 80's
Yup. A can of special brew and a small bottle of thunderbird from the offy on Granby St. Mixed of course. Then the bus into town for The State on. Thursday night when it was 1p to get in. Happy times.....

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12310 on: February 21, 2019, 03:16:17 pm »
We did.

This was in the 80's

And it would be interesting to see how many who post on here with alcohol problems are from your generation?

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12311 on: February 21, 2019, 03:23:41 pm »
And it would be interesting to see how many who post on here with alcohol problems are from your generation?

Plenty according to the stats.

Personally I gave up around 5 years ago. I didn't have alcohol problems I just realized that it's a boring and pointless drug. 
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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12312 on: February 21, 2019, 03:36:22 pm »
Plenty according to the stats.

Personally I gave up around 5 years ago. I didn't have alcohol problems I just realized that it's a boring and pointless drug.

Did the same thing about 3,4 years ago. I used to get smashed regularly Friday-Sunday for years, and stopped cold turkey. Never felt better and healthier since. I'll have a glass once every six months or so but haven't been pissed drunk since then

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12313 on: February 21, 2019, 03:58:48 pm »
And it would be interesting to see how many who post on here with alcohol problems are from your generation?

Most of them probably. 50p a pint and fuck all else to do didn't help.

I could have ended up in serious shit - I worked in a hotel kitchen for 14 months when I was 20/21. Real drinking culture, due to the easy access to free and cheap beer, plus fuck all to do on days off but go the pub, we'd be drinking from 8am on 14 hour split shifts. I drank so much it got to the point where I didn't get pissed until I'd got past 20 pints, could easily handle 15-16. Put 5 stone on in a stupidly short amount of time. If I hadn't have got a job as a driver, I'd have ended up as an alcoholic. These days I can go to a party and drink soft drinks and not even care.
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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12314 on: February 22, 2019, 12:40:57 pm »
In my youth we hardly drank at home but I was living in RAF barracks, very big drinking culture though and most Fridays we'd start early afternoon and sometime would hardly stop all weekend.

I was just thankful that I got married fairly early in my Military career. Still see one or two ex service people and even though they are well into their 60's they still drink far too much.

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12315 on: February 22, 2019, 01:35:20 pm »
My best mate died 10 years ago last week. He was 35. We grew up together, he supported Everton (he had his faults), and whilst I remember us doing the usual teenage thing of nicking a few spirits when his parents were away, buying cider and then graduating to the pub, I never saw him as an alcoholic. No one knew he even had a problem, and remember I had known him since we were 3 or 4 years old, we spent nearly all our spare time together - watching the footy, even going to away matches where occasionally I would go and watch everton with him and vice versa. I remember us watching football italia back in the day and we would record it whilst the premier league game was on to watch later. I would inevitably check ceefax or something and he always knew when it was a boring nil nil because I would fuck off home !

I always knew he was an anxious character, but drinking to that extent - no way. Anyway, about 10 days before he died I was in work I got a call from his sister (who is like a sister to me), to say he had been rushed to hospital, was in a coma and in ITU. I was obviously shocked, but didn`t have a clue what would have caused it. I got there quickly and was just in time for one of the lead consultants to talk to us and that was the first I knew that it was drinking that had done it. I visited him everyday, sat next to him chatting shite as usual. The day he died is etched on my memory. I was going to go in at the usual time but I got a call from his Dad early on the Saturday (Valentines day of all days - the bastard did it deliberately I am convinced !), to tell me to come in straight away to say my goodbyes. That was the hardest 15 minutes of my life, and I have had family members pass away in front of me, but nothing compared to this and thankfully still hasn`t.

I am a pretty down to earth fella. I am not maudlin. I see it as all as part of the rich tapestry of life and am very pragmatic about such things, and don`t dwell too much at all. I have to say for the first time since the time he died, it has really hit me over the past few weeks. I suppose it is the fact it is 10 years and I think about all the things that have happened since that I would have talked to him about, take the piss out of him for (Everton obviously) and generally the things I wish I had said (although I like to think he could still hear me when he was in a coma).

Anyway, the one thing that stuck in my mind was what the doctor told me when I said something like "but he wasn`t an alcoholic, he didn`t need it to wake up in the morning and function" - you know the sort of thing. He told me that anyone who consistently exceeds the recommended weekly units is technically an alcoholic and would be doing themselves harm.

I hardly drink anymore. Not just because of that, epilepsy and the medication I take (they don`t mix !) is part of that, but I can honestly say that since that day I haven`t really missed having a drink. I saw what it did to my best mate and I just wish I had known and could have perhaps done a little more to help. I know that people who suffer often don`t listen to the ones they love and perhaps it would have made no difference at all, but I still wonder.

I miss the soft twat.
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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12316 on: February 22, 2019, 01:37:04 pm »
That was very touching mate, cheers for sharing. 

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12317 on: February 22, 2019, 01:45:32 pm »
That was very touching mate, cheers for sharing.

Thank you. I actually feel a little better for typing that out.
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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12318 on: February 22, 2019, 01:51:49 pm »
Thank you. I actually feel a little better for typing that out.

That's what this thread is here for mate  :)

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12319 on: March 21, 2019, 10:31:04 am »
I hope everyone is doing well.

Just being positive. I have huge work pressure at the moment and am on my third day of zero booze and one sleep pill at night. The pill seems to work better with no booze.

The positive side of no hangover and increased energy from decent sleep is huge. Up early and already cracking through work stuff with a good mental attitude.

Felt the best I have in ages with absolutely no booze.