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Re: Favourite Aircraft
« Reply #280 on: February 28, 2008, 09:33:11 pm »
this fucking thing.awesome !
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Re: Favourite Aircraft
« Reply #281 on: February 28, 2008, 09:55:45 pm »
christ everyone going for these sleek things, mine's gotta be the Airbus A300-600ST Beluga, just a joy to see those things actually being in the air!

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Re: Favourite Aircraft
« Reply #282 on: February 28, 2008, 11:27:54 pm »
I agree with hooded claw, the Stuka looks awesome...but how bout this bad boy...


Good choice,I prefer the p-38 in this camo/paintjob though. 
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Re: Favourite Aircraft
« Reply #283 on: February 29, 2008, 01:16:21 am »
Saab Viggen - made an Airfix model of one as a kid.



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Re: Favourite Aircraft
« Reply #284 on: February 29, 2008, 01:31:54 am »
For me, the things that make an aircraft memorable are its' shape, its' sound and, especially, its' contribution to history.

Around 1988 or 1989 I was working at an AustinRover dealership on the Hatfield Road, St. Albans but only about two miles from British Aerospace, Hatfield, formerly an RAF field. I think it was a Friday afternoon with an airshow scheduled there for the weekend. I was talking to customers when I heard a distictive, unforgettable sound from above.

I quickly excused myself and ran outside and looked up and saw, and heard, the most awesome aviation scene in my life. It brought tears to my eyes and the memory of it is doing so now. Why? What?

Rumbling overhead was an Avro Lancaster bomber flanked by a Hawker Hurricane off one wingtip and a Supermarine Spitfire off the other wing. Six Rolls Royce Merlin engines growling with those fabulous big 4-bladed props thrashing the air...what an incredible sound and a beautiful sight. Truly wonderful LOOKING planes with absolutely the best SOUND ever generated by mankind.

The brilliance of British engineering and spirit embodied in 3 machines that, along with the brave kids that flew them in World War 2, were a huge part of why the majority of us on this board are alive today and are not speaking German.

And THAT is why these are not only MY favorite aircraft but why they are some of the most significant in the history of the world.

To those brave men...I salute you and Thank You.

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Re: Favourite Aircraft
« Reply #285 on: February 29, 2008, 01:46:22 am »

Glad this thread is back up and running.


Was just thinking about my times in the new (well it was when I was flying it) Grob Tutor....lovely bit of kit.


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Re: Favourite Aircraft
« Reply #286 on: February 29, 2008, 02:03:13 am »
Following on from my last post, a few other sound-related aviation memories;

1. Sometime in the 1960s the Dad of one of my neighbourhood pals (he was a Scouser, a WW2 Spitfire pilot, a Red and probably the reason I have been a life-long LFC fan) took us to an airshow at RAF St. Athan near Bridgend, South Wales. As the show concluded we were walking around the perimeter of the field back to the car. As we passed by the end of the main runway there was a sudden deafening roar and our eyes were drawn to 5 aircraft on the runway, poised for a formation takeoff. We were then subjected to an even louder roar as they went to full throttle with re-heat. The ground was literally shaking, the sound was so loud that our chest cavities were actually vibrating. The jet exhausts glowed as the planes moved away from us and we were subjected to a blast of hot air from over 100 yards away. Seconds later the 5 planes rose as one and climbed almost vertically into the low clouds. Although the outlines of the aircraft dissappeared very quickly in the murk the after-burners were visible like cigarette-ends for quite a long time as they seemed to almost burn a hole through the clouds and the roaring, thundering sound continued for well over a minute. The planes? F4-B Phantoms...truly outstanding aircraft of their day.

2. Around 1980 or 1981 was briefly visiting Heathrow en-route for a hitch-hiking trip to Europe. Heard the most incredible snarling, crackling, spitting jet roar I've ever experienced. Rumbling down the runway was a BOAC-liveried Hawker Siddeley (I think) Trident airliner. Not a favorite plane but an indelible memory just because it is the noisiest sound I have ever heard from a single aircraft, albeit with 3 engines. (Also Rolls Royce I think but possibly Pratt and Whitney)

3. Also at Heathrow, probably 1989, was parked just outside the western perimeter fence mainly watching planes coming in to land from the west. You could see 15 or more planes in line in the sky stretching 20 or 30 miles out into the western sky. One Air India 747 came over so low it almost seemed like I could reach up and touch it. It was filthy and rust-stained too...or maybe curry-stained, lol.

Anyway, point of this is that, in a lull between landings, suddenly I heard a huge roar which got extremely loud, rivalling those described above, before it gradually diminished. Clearly there was an aircraft moving away from me down the runway but hidden from my view by the concrete sound/blast buffers they have strategically placed there.

After about 30 seconds a serene shape rose into the sky about a mile away, turned in a sharply-banked right turn showing the MOST BEAUTIFUL AIRCRAFT SILLHOUETTE I've ever seen and trailing smoke from its' 4 RollsRoyce RB-211 (I think) engines. The plane was, of course, another example of British engineering at its' best (with the help of the French too it has to be said)...Concorde. What a plane, what a sight, what a sound.

Shame it wasn't a commercial success but still the most advanced passenger aircraft ever built.
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Re: Favourite Aircraft
« Reply #287 on: February 29, 2008, 09:04:10 pm »
Nice post albertared, some fine choices. Just to clarify, Concorde had R-R/Snecma Olympus 593 engines. RB-211's are commonly found on 747s, 757s and 767s.

And for the record, the Trident ran R-R Spey engines.
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Re: Favourite Aircraft
« Reply #288 on: March 1, 2008, 04:35:58 am »
Nice post albertared, some fine choices. Just to clarify, Concorde had R-R/Snecma Olympus 593 engines. RB-211's are commonly found on 747s, 757s and 767s.

And for the record, the Trident ran R-R Spey engines.

thanks for the info phil....i knew i shouldn't have winged it (pardon the pun) without googling first. you are 100% correct on the Concorde engines.
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Re: Favourite Aircraft
« Reply #289 on: March 1, 2008, 03:07:33 pm »
VC-10


Fastest current commercial airliner i believe.
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Re: Favourite Aircraft
« Reply #290 on: March 1, 2008, 05:22:14 pm »
Loud as fuck the VC-10, didn't know airlines were still using them though. I think the RAF still have them.

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Re: Favourite Aircraft
« Reply #291 on: March 1, 2008, 05:23:27 pm »
Loud as fuck the VC-10, didn't know airlines were still using them though. I think the RAF still have them.

The only people that still use VC-10 are the RAF and a couple of African and Asian airlines whose main passengers are goats and boat people.

Sad, but true.
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Re: Favourite Aircraft
« Reply #292 on: March 1, 2008, 05:25:27 pm »


Seeing the VC-10 reminded me of this, the de Havilland Comet. I like the engines being part of the wing, looks very clean.

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Re: Favourite Aircraft
« Reply #293 on: March 1, 2008, 05:31:41 pm »


Built an airfix model of this and have seen one take off, amazing to watch. They go up like a rocket.



Another plane with an unmistakable sound and great climb rate.

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Re: Favourite Aircraft
« Reply #294 on: March 1, 2008, 05:42:03 pm »
Loud as fuck the VC-10, didn't know airlines were still using them though. I think the RAF still have them.
The only people that still use VC-10 are the RAF and a couple of African and Asian airlines whose main passengers are goats and boat people.

Sad, but true.

Ah maybe it's just the fastest passenger plane then?  I can't remember the exact wording the RAF bloke used, was quite impressed though.
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Re: Favourite Aircraft
« Reply #295 on: March 1, 2008, 05:44:54 pm »
Seeing the VC-10 reminded me of this, the de Havilland Comet. I like the engines being part of the wing, looks very clean.

Guess who the only people who have to get airborne in that are too? And they're bringing out a new version eventually, which will be the same 55 year old airframes...

Ah maybe it's just the fastest passenger plane then?  I can't remember the exact wording the RAF bloke used, was quite impressed though.

Dunno, like I say it is still in use by some airlines. Just none that are bothered about crashing occasionally.
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Re: Favourite Aircraft
« Reply #296 on: March 1, 2008, 05:52:15 pm »
Dunno, like I say it is still in use by some airlines. Just none that are bothered about crashing occasionally.

;D That was never metioned unsurprisingly!  Just read that the VC-10 (and Tristars) are being replaced in 2011 with 14 Airbus A330s.
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« Reply #297 on: March 1, 2008, 05:57:02 pm »
Guess who the only people who have to get airborne in that are too? And they're bringing out a new version eventually, which will be the same 55 year old airframes...

Dunno, like I say it is still in use by some airlines. Just none that are bothered about crashing occasionally.

You talking about the Nimrod? I know that is based on the Comet.

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Re: Favourite Aircraft
« Reply #298 on: March 1, 2008, 07:00:14 pm »
You talking about the Nimrod? I know that is based on the Comet.

Yep, the Nimrod MR.4 (once known as Nimrod 2000 until that got embarassing) is due any decade now...

;D That was never metioned unsurprisingly!  Just read that the VC-10 (and Tristars) are being replaced in 2011 with 14 Airbus A330s.

So I've heard, although I don't know how likely they are to be on time either.
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Re: Favourite Aircraft
« Reply #299 on: March 1, 2008, 07:45:06 pm »


The Lightning is immense, would love to fly in one
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« Reply #300 on: March 1, 2008, 08:36:27 pm »
So I've heard, although I don't know how likely they are to be on time either.

They're already 2 years late... ::)
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Re: Favourite Aircraft
« Reply #301 on: March 2, 2008, 08:23:16 am »
F-22 Raptor, aye.
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« Reply #302 on: March 2, 2008, 12:25:39 pm »

Anyway, point of this is that, in a lull between landings, suddenly I heard a huge roar which got extremely loud, rivalling those described above, before it gradually diminished. Clearly there was an aircraft moving away from me down the runway but hidden from my view by the concrete sound/blast buffers they have strategically placed there.

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Shame it wasn't a commercial success but still the most advanced passenger aircraft ever built.

I used to love watching Concorde take off, or rather listening to it. Standing anywhere under the end of the runway and feeling that sound as it passed over is unforgettable. Power and beauty... shame it's gone.

I don't recall the occasion (think it was to do with the Battle of Britain but might have been the Queen's Jubilee) but I remember watching Concorde doing a flypast down the Mall in formation with the Red Arrows, followed by the Battle of Britain Memorial flight - Hurricane, Spitfire & Lancaster... another beautiful sound. (I may be mixing up two different occasions..)






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« Reply #303 on: March 2, 2008, 12:31:45 pm »
Not brilliant quality (and not one I was at) but this flypast includes the Battle of Britain Memorial flight as well as a VC-10 and Nimrod/Comet as mentioned above.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5EigKLe-ZE
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« Reply #304 on: March 2, 2008, 12:41:25 pm »
Not brilliant quality (and not one I was at) but this flypast includes the Battle of Britain Memorial flight as well as a VC-10 and Nimrod/Comet as mentioned above.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5EigKLe-ZE


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2002 Concorde/Red Arrows flypast

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu21rM9ahkY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu21rM9ahkY&feature=related
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Re: Favourite Aircraft
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Re: Favourite Aircraft
« Reply #306 on: March 2, 2008, 06:06:38 pm »
Fly Navy


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« Reply #307 on: March 3, 2008, 07:36:57 am »
Thanks for the pics and videos, Alan F..the Spit/Lanc/Hurricane is almost exactly as I saw in their fly-past....awesome!

I have a Concorde story some might be interested in....

I was at Luton Airport a few years back, on sales business. I was talking to one of the management team and he told me this...

Apparantly, early in its' history, probably before it started commercial flights, Concorde was due to land at Luton for some kind of show-and-tell or some-such. It was being flown by one of the test pilots I believe.

He was on final approach when he radioed in for confirmation of the length of the runway. He was told that it was "as advertised" (5000 feet I seem to recall but could be wrong) and perfectly adequate for Concorde to stop safely.

Now, for those who don't know Luton, the main runway is not flat....it rises quite a bit to about the mid-point then drops away again. Further, close beyond the end of the runway is a fence then a steep bank that drops down probably a couple of hundred feet to houses, shops, etc.. (The Vauxhall/Bedford factory is off to the left).

Now, from a low-flying aircraft, apparently, what you see is a runway that only looks about 2000 feet long with the town right behind it.

According to "my guy" the pilot was right at "decision height" when he muttered to his co-pilot something along the lines of "screw this, I'm not going to plough this baby into Marks and Spencer" (possible poetic licence there!) and he jammed the throttles wide open, full re-heat and said "we're outta here...adios Luton!" (there may have been the odd F-word involved but that would be guessing)

Now, something else to know about Luton is that, due to the aforementioned proximity of habitation to the field, extreme noise-abatement measures have to be taken on take-off. It is quite disconcerting because it almost feels like the pilot shuts the engines down to nearly zero as soon as you are in the air, then banks away sharply to avoid the most dense housing areas. First time I experienced it I thought the engines had failed and we were going down.

So, back to our BAE/Aerospatiale wondercraft....as you know, this is a noisy bird....apparently our panicking pilot completely ignored said noise-abatement and kept the throttles all the way open, a sort of "up yours" gesture possibly . No doubt a glorious sight and sound but several windows were shattered in Luton simply due to the vibrations caused.

I am led to believe that, to this day, Concorde has never been to Luton.

And you always thought these things were all planned so perfectly that nothing could go wrong!
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Re: Favourite Aircraft
« Reply #308 on: March 3, 2008, 07:52:49 am »
I used to love watching Concorde take off, or rather listening to it. Standing anywhere under the end of the runway and feeling that sound as it passed over is unforgettable. Power and beauty... shame it's gone.

When I was based in Windsor I always used to make sure I was outside at ten past ten (I think, it was six years ago!) because her landing run into Heathrow took her right over the TA Centre I worked at. It's an absolute crime that she's gone.


Those C-17s are absolutely fucking massive, completely dwarf the Herc.
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« Reply #309 on: March 3, 2008, 07:56:57 am »
This was one mean mofo...



The Lightning. Used to hit the end of the runway then take off vertically, melting the end of the runway. ATC used to go fuckin' nuts!!

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« Reply #310 on: March 3, 2008, 04:35:49 pm »
I went to Fairford a a couple of years ago, and we were walking round the outside of the airfield, and one of them C-17s came in to land, passing overhead..and seriously the ground shook. Fuckin epic thing. Really low as well, and made me jump a mile. ;D

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« Reply #311 on: March 3, 2008, 04:43:34 pm »
Concorde, fortunately the French actually still treat one of theirs with loving care such that theres still a chance it may fly again one day, unlike the BA examples which are rotting outdoors.

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« Reply #312 on: March 3, 2008, 04:49:29 pm »
I went to Fairford a a couple of years ago, and we were walking round the outside of the airfield, and one of them C-17s came in to land, passing overhead..and seriously the ground shook. Fuckin epic thing. Really low as well, and made me jump a mile. ;D

The C-5 Galaxy was (is?) bigger I think.  I remember, long ago, being at and RAF base in Hampshire (or was it Wiltshire  ???) after they had had a visit from a C-5.  The guy I was talking too said he had a conversation with the pilot that went something like "we're not used to supplying so much fuel to one aircraft" to which the reply was "we're not used to taking so little"  :)
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« Reply #313 on: March 3, 2008, 07:29:53 pm »
Would have been Wiltshire mate - Lyneham.
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Re: Favourite Aircraft
« Reply #314 on: March 3, 2008, 11:35:32 pm »
VC-10


Fastest current commercial airliner i believe.
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Re: Favourite Aircraft
« Reply #315 on: March 4, 2008, 11:25:26 am »
Would have been Wiltshire mate - Lyneham.

Just remembered it was RAF Odiham (hampshire), helicopter base (used to be Puma and Chinook, seems like the Pumas have since relocated?).  The arrival of a C-5 was big news, given the length of the runway.  Then again, it was a long time ago and the old noggin is a bit fuzzy  ::)  I think it was just before or during Gulf War I.
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Re: Favourite Aircraft
« Reply #316 on: March 4, 2008, 01:03:26 pm »
Just remembered it was RAF Odiham (hampshire), helicopter base (used to be Puma and Chinook, seems like the Pumas have since relocated?).  The arrival of a C-5 was big news, given the length of the runway.  Then again, it was a long time ago and the old noggin is a bit fuzzy  ::)  I think it was just before or during Gulf War I.

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Re: Favourite Aircraft
« Reply #317 on: March 4, 2008, 11:30:29 pm »
Just remembered it was RAF Odiham (hampshire), helicopter base (used to be Puma and Chinook, seems like the Pumas have since relocated?).  The arrival of a C-5 was big news, given the length of the runway.  Then again, it was a long time ago and the old noggin is a bit fuzzy  ::)  I think it was just before or during Gulf War I.
Really surprised Odiham could take a C5 to be honest which is why I said Lyneham.
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Re: Favourite Aircraft
« Reply #318 on: March 5, 2008, 07:54:56 am »
BDL....good to see you still yearn..!!

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Re: Favourite Aircraft
« Reply #319 on: May 7, 2008, 05:03:18 pm »
just to let you know that in cape town there is a flying school that has the very rare 2 seater English Electric Lightning. and yes you can pay to fly in it...
not sure if it was always theres or they bought the one that used to be at Binbrook (that I so nearly got to fly in).. hell of an experience though...


also of the same era.. XH558 is back in the air   http://youtube.com/watch?v=7-x43MKI6LY