Topic: Man City - cheating bastards rumbled

[RedKenWah]

Is it just me or does Haaland look knackered already in this game. Apologies I know it’s boring watching Man City in games and I agree but just watched final 10 mins or so of first half and whilst good at doing his running man piece he looked knackered running back…

Or is it just the way he plays?

[Nitramdorf]

Jesus christ I thought I was sick of these cheats before. It's now even more nauseating. Just seen a tweet from the BBC wanking over the fact the human rights t shirt wearer now has more champions league goals than Romario, Van Basten and Johann fucking Cruyff.
I just bought next weeks TV magazine, open it and see a picture of the ugly fuck.

I fucking hate them.

[Fromola]

Someone on 5 live before going on about how great it is to have the world's best striker in the PL after we had to watch the Ronaldo/Messi era from afar.

Fairytale.

[rushyman]

Jesus christ I thought I was sick of these cheats before. It's now even more nauseating. Just seen a tweet from the BBC wanking over the fact the human rights t shirt wearer now has more champions league goals than Romario, Van Basten and Johann fucking Cruyff.
I just bought next weeks TV magazine, open it and see a picture of the ugly fuck.

I fucking hate them.

I hate what footballs become

To be beaten to worthy premier league titles the way we have by a team doing what they have had pushed me to the edge

Now they have one good window against a net billion spent of blood money and the press are decrying all questions of ffp against them. Then you’ve got var idiocy, play acting, time wasting. You watch 50 mins of 90 mins game now

I’m nearly done at the mo

[Gerry Attrick]

Someone on 5 live before going on about how great it is to have the world's best striker in the PL after we had to watch the Ronaldo/Messi era from afar.

Fairytale.

You have to remember not everybody is totally indoctrinated and tribal about football. If you’re somebody who likes watching football without having the inclination to care about politics and anything off the pitch you probably would be quite excited to have one of the best in your home nation. People just can’t see past the end of their nose on here sometimes when it comes to other teams. It’s like everyone must be held up to their own lofty moral standards. People need to step outside a bit. It’s not how the real world works. People exist who just like watching good players play. Hard to believe I know.

[Jwils21]

Haaland is a fucking robot with an unquenchable thirst for scoring goals, created by a mad German scientist.

Perfect for Guardiola’s brand of ruthlessly effective robotic soccer.

[rushyman]

You have to remember not everybody is totally indoctrinated and tribal about football. If you’re somebody who likes watching football without having the inclination to care about politics and anything off the pitch you probably would be quite excited to have one of the best in your home nation. People just can’t see past the end of their nose on here sometimes when it comes to other teams. It’s like everyone must be held up to their own lofty moral standards. People need to step outside a bit. It’s not how the real world works. People exist who just like watching good players play. Hard to believe I know.

Children and man children then

[WhereAngelsPlay]

You have to remember not everybody is totally indoctrinated and tribal about football. If you’re somebody who likes watching football without having the inclination to care about politics and anything off the pitch you probably would be quite excited to have one of the best in your home nation. People just can’t see past the end of their nose on here sometimes when it comes to other teams. It’s like everyone must be held up to their own lofty moral standards. People need to step outside a bit. It’s not how the real world works. People exist who just like watching good players play. Hard to believe I know.

Not about football though is it.

[El Lobo]

Sportswashed

[Gerry Attrick]

Not about football though is it.

Most people on this forum have nothing better to do than know the ins and outs of almost every team. I’m one of them. Who owns them, what kind of characters play for them, what the club stands for etc. That forms my opinions and leads me to hating them. It’s also extremely easy to understand that not everybody else is like me. That appears to be a concept some people on here struggle to comprehend.

[rushyman]

Most people on this forum have nothing better to do than know the ins and outs of almost every team. I’m one of them. Who owns them, what kind of characters play for them, what the club stands for etc. That forms my opinions and leads me to hating them. It’s also extremely easy to understand that not everybody else is like me. That appears to be a concept some people on here struggle to comprehend.

Quite the contrary

Most are like you (and me). That’s why we all hate each other

It’s the fans that do it for me. I take the hate we receive extremely personally so I dole it out with the same force it arrived with and some more

And on the ballet will go. I mean, imagine if we all liked each other and got on ? I can’t even process what football and the world would be like. Not as rich, I know that

Sad fact is Footballs driving energy is not football and it’s not money. It’s hate

[Barneylfc∗]

You have to remember not everybody is totally indoctrinated and tribal about football. If you’re somebody who likes watching football without having the inclination to care about politics and anything off the pitch you probably would be quite excited to have one of the best in your home nation. People just can’t see past the end of their nose on here sometimes when it comes to other teams. It’s like everyone must be held up to their own lofty moral standards. People need to step outside a bit. It’s not how the real world works. People exist who just like watching good players play. Hard to believe I know.

Those people should be educated then.
It's not right that countries that murder journalists for having an opinion and put you in prison for being gay are controlling the most popular sport in the world.
Those that want to just watch a game of football with their ears covered need to be told the consequences of them choosing not to listen.

[Johnny Foreigner]

The Haaland train is coming unfortunately.. Had a small walk down the local (norgie) team the other day and first city/haaland shirt spotted. pretty similar to solskjar and his dodgy agent mate.. footballing terms - great, but just greedy/ignorant/stupid.. haaland is good; his career well handled though - best team in norway; red bull - dortmund (all - no pressure etc but you can shine), city. we'll see - tougher times ahead and if he is leading vocal playing twice a week; his hamstrings will not like that

[Sammy5IsAlive]

I know it’s Troy fucking Deeney but still this hyperbolic wankfest over Haaland is physically nauseating…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/62791018

‘Unstoppable' Erling Haaland could redefine striker role for next 10 years

 

So it turns out that if you put a striker who is very big, very strong, very quick and a very good finisher into a team that won the league last season they score lots of goals. Revolutionary!!!

More seriously, there is maybe an interesting question as to whether the signings of Haaland/Nunez represent a shift in tactical approach. To be honest I think it is probably more of a case that they were the best strikers available to us/City and there was a big enough gap in quality from them to alternatives that might have fitted our 'traditional' forward roles more closely. Plus it is a pretty parochial discussion if you are just looking at two clubs and not at what the rest of the top clubs in Europe are doing. Even just looking at the PL it doesn't feel like suddenly the league is flooded with old-school number 9s?

[Sammy5IsAlive]

You have to remember not everybody is totally indoctrinated and tribal about football. If you’re somebody who likes watching football without having the inclination to care about politics and anything off the pitch you probably would be quite excited to have one of the best in your home nation. People just can’t see past the end of their nose on here sometimes when it comes to other teams. It’s like everyone must be held up to their own lofty moral standards. People need to step outside a bit. It’s not how the real world works. People exist who just like watching good players play. Hard to believe I know.

I can see where you are coming from. There are plenty of players from rival teams who I've begrudgingly enjoyed watching from a football perspective. Interestingly the City ones are pretty thin on the ground - probably just De Bruyne and Silva (maybe also the occasions when Toure went into one-man-team mode). That said, whilst Haaland is an elite player in terms of output I'm never going to get excited about watching him bully his way to hatfuls of goals from around the six yard box.

[Jwils21]

So it turns out that if you put a striker who is very big, very strong, very quick and a very good finisher into a team that won the league last season they score lots of goals. Revolutionary!!!

More seriously, there is maybe an interesting question as to whether the signings of Haaland/Nunez represent a shift in tactical approach. To be honest I think it is probably more of a case that they were the best strikers available to us/City and there was a big enough gap in quality from them to alternatives that might have fitted our 'traditional' forward roles more closely. Plus it is a pretty parochial discussion if you are just looking at two clubs and not at what the rest of the top clubs in Europe are doing. Even just looking at the PL it doesn't feel like suddenly the league is flooded with old-school number 9s?

Haaland, Nunez, Isak, Scamacca and Kalajdžić are all traditional forwards brought into the league this season. If you consider we haven’t had a recognised striker for years and City have preferred to play Sterling/Foden down the middle, it’s fair to say it’s a change in style. Wolves are even after Diego Costa, bring on the era of ale house forwards!

[Johnny Foreigner]

you probably would be quite excited to have one of the best in your home nation.

Sorry mate; me and erling was born within the same national/geographical boundaries.. I made my decision probably 10 years ago that I would never go to dubai/saudi or even use their airlines. haaland and his family made their choices. I have no joy or pride regardless of how many goals he scores. he is ok for the national team (hypocrite me), but he is also pretty basic so to speak so que sera sera

[rushyman]

Haaland being compared to Messi and Ronaldo now

Yeah just like them. Administration fee alone

I just love watching a bloke pass it off run like something out of lord of the rings into the box and and boot it in. Messi in his pomp stuff

[Black Bull Nova]

I Just think Haaland has the potential to make football over the next 10 years as dull as ditchwater, he could actually destroy the game as we know it, turn it into a form of Australian Rules football, the Jonah Lomu of football

[taylorb1991]

https://twitter.com/SevillaFC_ENG/status/1567249587747885070?s=20&t=9yjDlQDBySIfZsS-2QGjCA

Yet they have the biggest revenue in the World. Makes sense. Definitely legit. Seriously, why the British media aren't digging into the shenanigans at this cheating club more is beyond me

[Jack_Bauer]

including 774 Man City fans.

But remember they deserve to win the Champions League

[Tokyoite]

https://twitter.com/SevillaFC_ENG/status/1567249587747885070?s=20&t=9yjDlQDBySIfZsS-2QGjCA

Yet they have the biggest revenue in the World. Makes sense. Definitely legit. Seriously, why the British media aren't digging into the shenanigans at this cheating club more is beyond me

Ohh Sevilla definitely knew what they were doing with this tweet. Love it 

[JRed]

https://twitter.com/SevillaFC_ENG/status/1567249587747885070?s=20&t=9yjDlQDBySIfZsS-2QGjCA

Yet they have the biggest revenue in the World. Makes sense. Definitely legit. Seriously, why the British media aren't digging into the shenanigans at this cheating club more is beyond me

774 fans! They all went then?

Anyone know if the traffic is bad in Seville?

[RyanBabel19]

Haaland being compared to Messi and Ronaldo now

Yeah just like them. Administration fee alone

I just love watching a bloke pass it off run like something out of lord of the rings into the box and and boot it in. Messi in his pomp stuff

Isn't the comparison obviously just numbers though? As in doing the literal hardest thing in the sport at an obscene level.

The guys 22 and has been putting up stupid numbers for some time now, he's just moved to a new league considered to be the best in the world and he's continuing that instantly!

I cant stand City and their sportswashing shite, literally ruining the sport but it's hardly suprising a man scoring stupid amounts of goals (outdoing the numbers in some competitions of others when they were his age) is being compared to... two players who spent their careers scoring stupud amounts of goals.

People hate the fuss over his start but imagine Nunez came in, put up those numbers and someone dared post saying the fuss is too much be run off the forum in no time.

Haaland isn't Messi in terms of technical ability and all round play, he's a fucking freak of a goalscorer though.

RAWK cannot bring it's own version of 'pace goals' criticism, ever everyones ability cant suddenly be downplayed when they join a rival, that's exactly what we complain other fans do about our best players.

[JRed]

Isn't the comparison obviously just numbers though? As in doing the literal hardest thing in the sport at an obscene level.

The guys 22 and has been putting up stupid numbers for some time now, he's just moved to a new league considered to be the best in the world and he's continuing that instantly!

I cant stand City and their sportswashing shite, literally ruining the sport but it's hardly suprising a man scoring stupid amounts of goals (outdoing the numbers in some competitions of others when they were his age) is being compared to... two players who spent their careers scoring stupud amounts of goals.

People hate the fuss over his start but imagine Nunez came in, put up those numbers and someone dared post saying the fuss is too much be run off the forum in no time.

Haaland isn't Messi in terms of technical ability and all round play, he's a fucking freak of a goalscorer though.

RAWK cannot bring it's own version of 'pace goals' criticism, ever everyones ability cant suddenly be downplayed when they join a rival, that's exactly what we complain other fans do about our best players.

It might help if defenders actually try to stay close to him. He does have a great natural ability in finding space but surely he should be man marked?

[ChaChaMooMoo]

774 fans! They all went then?

Anyone know if the traffic is bad in Seville?

The only road from Manchester to Seville was clogged with city fans trying to get into the stadium. Seeing so many traffic, most of them turned away and went back home.

[rushyman]

Isn't the comparison obviously just numbers though? As in doing the literal hardest thing in the sport at an obscene level.

The guys 22 and has been putting up stupid numbers for some time now, he's just moved to a new league considered to be the best in the world and he's continuing that instantly!

I cant stand City and their sportswashing shite, literally ruining the sport but it's hardly suprising a man scoring stupid amounts of goals (outdoing the numbers in some competitions of others when they were his age) is being compared to... two players who spent their careers scoring stupud amounts of goals.

People hate the fuss over his start but imagine Nunez came in, put up those numbers and someone dared post saying the fuss is too much be run off the forum in no time.

Haaland isn't Messi in terms of technical ability and all round play, he's a fucking freak of a goalscorer though.

RAWK cannot bring it's own version of 'pace goals' criticism, ever everyones ability cant suddenly be downplayed when they join a rival, that's exactly what we complain other fans do about our best players.

His goal scoring is phenomenal

So was the man in my username. Who scored every type of goal

But even he wasn’t Messi and Ronaldo as I’ll gladly admit. Or zidane, or Ronaldinho who I also would’ve bought a ticket just to watch

If they are basing it on numbers ok fair enough, we’ll see what he ends up with

I mean, your laughing at me and accusing me of evertonisation for suggesting comparing him to Messi and Ronaldo isn’t right…

[JRed]

The only road from Manchester to Seville was clogged with city fans trying to get into the stadium. Seeing so many traffic, most of them turned away and went back home.

I thought that must be the reason, obviously the club with the biggest commercial income in the world can muster more than 774 fans for a relatively close away Champions League tie, so there must be a reason they didn’t have more fans there.

[Fromola]

I thought that must be the reason, obviously the club with the biggest commercial income in the world can muster more than 774 fans for a relatively close away Champions League tie, so there must be a reason they didn’t have more fans there.

They wanted to watch the new Prime Minister.

[MonsLibpool]

It might help if defenders actually try to stay close to him. He does have a great natural ability in finding space but surely he should be man marked?

He'll just shrug them off anyway. Too strong.

[tubby]

It might help if defenders actually try to stay close to him. He does have a great natural ability in finding space but surely he should be man marked?

You can man mark someone all day long, but if they're stronger and quicker than you, it's tough.  Especially if they're excellent at making runs like Haaland is.

But I think if you put Nunez in this City team, he wouldn't be far off the goal tally so far.  Or any pure striker.  It's City's build up play and ability to get in behind that creates all those chances for him.

[JRed]

He'll just shrug them off anyway. Too strong.

Not necessarily, if a defender has good positional sense then often the only way past is to push them out the way and give a foul away. Not saying it would be easy but at the moment they’re just letting him run wherever he wants.

[JRed]

You can man mark someone all day long, but if they're stronger and quicker than you, it's tough.  Especially if they're excellent at making runs like Haaland is.

But I think if you put Nunez in this City team, he wouldn't be far off the goal tally so far.  Or any pure striker.  It's City's build up play and ability to get in behind that creates all those chances for him.

Yeah I do agree, just think opposition need to take a different approach. Saying that tho, he’s basically only faced some of the lesser teams in the league who have been wide open at the back. We’ll see how it goes when they come up against teams that know how to defend.

[tubby]

Not necessarily, if a defender has good positional sense then often the only way past is to push them out the way and give a foul away. Not saying it would be easy but at the moment they’re just letting him run wherever he wants.

But you can say this for anyone:

- Why didn't defenders just stand Messi up and not let him dribble past them?
- Why didn't defenders just stay tight to Fowler/Rush/Torres and not let them run wherever they want?
- Why didn't defenders wear protective chainmail in case Suarez bit them?

[Red-Soldier]

No point crying over Haaland.  He's a top striker in a team that creates a ton of chances; of course he's going to score a lot of goals!

He's pretty much a unique, physical specimen.  Very few CBs will match up with him well.

[rushyman]

He'll just shrug them off anyway. Too strong.

He’s built like a centre half thinks like a centre half and a number 9

It’s a lethal mix. You never see him not scoring

[JRed]

But you can say this for anyone:

- Why didn't defenders just stand Messi up and not let him dribble past them?
- Why didn't defenders just stay tight to Fowler/Rush/Torres and not let them run wherever they want?
- Why didn't defenders wear protective chainmail in case Suarez bit them?

Slightly different. Them players made their own space when on the ball a lot of the time. Haaland just seems to be in acres of space everytime the ball gets to him for a tap in.

[MonsLibpool]

He’s built like a centre half thinks like a centre half and a number 9

It’s a lethal mix. You never see him not scoring

Once he gets going, he's like a train. He's extremely difficult to keep up with. Very strong, tall, quick, two-footed and very good movement. It might be better for teams to drop deeper to deny him space because he's not the best technically.

[tubby]

Slightly different. Them players made their own space when on the ball a lot of the time. Haaland just seems to be in acres of space everytime the ball gets to him for a tap in.

Rush and Fowler scored loads because of great timing of runs off the back of defenders, same as Haaland.  He's quicker and stronger than both, so it's even easier for him to get away from a defender.

[JRed]

Rush and Fowler scored loads because of great timing of runs off the back of defenders, same as Haaland.  He's quicker and stronger than both, so it's even easier for him to get away from a defender.

A lot of Haaland’s goals have not been from forward passes but from crosses and cut backs and he is still often just standing in acres of space. I get he has great movement. However, the approach of standing off him is clearly not working. Just saying I think defenders should get closer to him to start with. Make him play with his back to goal by getting tight on him.