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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #5680 on: March 25, 2024, 04:57:06 pm »
Haha, Keys!  Which of his circle of ITKs would have any clue about the dealings of FSG, Alonso or Bayern?!

It's amusing though that he asks the question that if Man U appointing Southgate would top the theoretical appointment of Alonso for us.  If Southgate has any sense he'll ride the England bandwagon for as long as possible and never prove his incompetence by returning to club management.

Just imagine if we ended up with Southgate as our next manager  :o

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #5681 on: March 25, 2024, 05:02:56 pm »
Hanging on to the words of a blog by Richard Keys. What has my life become  :butt

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« Reply #5682 on: March 25, 2024, 05:25:42 pm »
The hairy-handed chimp knows he's a figure of ridicule, I mean he practically refers to it. "I was laughed out of court..." (as in royal jester not the legal sense).

So he's got absolutely nothing to lose by jumping on the bandwagon, claiming he liked Alonso last year, and bullshitting he has ITK info on an evens favourite for the job. Still pathetically desperate to be relevant from his base of operations at the Premier Inn Doha.

It's clear as day that Xabi hasn't made ANY decision yet. He hasn't committed to Leverkusen, he definitely hasn't turned us down (because it's extremely tempting), I bet he hasn't even told Bayern to go fuck themselves (yet) despite the transparent disrespectful shenanigans conducted by ex-inmate Hoeness and paid shill Plettenberg. I'm sure he's got a gut feeling alongside his family, but like any with intelligent professional, he's focussing first on the unfinished job in hand, and seeing how things play out after that. Once that's settled, it'll all happen very quickly;
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #5683 on: March 25, 2024, 05:48:49 pm »
Let's be honest it would be massively shithousery of Xabi to go direct from Leverkusen to Munich, what an 'up yours' that would be to Leverkusen the club and its fans. I've seen the excuse that he might prefer to stay in Germany like its a minor move few streets away for him and his kids (must not unsettle the kids), the distance between Leverkusen and Munich is about he same as London to Belfast so that would be a big upheaval move too on top of the all the shithousery. I think he'll come here or stay where he is.

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #5684 on: March 25, 2024, 06:26:00 pm »

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #5685 on: March 25, 2024, 07:19:18 pm »
He got Sporting their first league title since 2002 and he regularly loses his best players every season. He’s done an incredible job there honestly.

It seems like that it's Xabi or nothing for a significant number of our fanbase but the more I learn about Amorim, the more it seems he'd be a strong appointment as well. Given there's no one with a track record as strong as Klopp's was in 2015, I don't have much of a preference between the two. Both would be a bigger risk than Klopp was but the upside could be just as good. Ultimately, the club will be doing their diligence on this and will come to a decision based on who they think would be better suited between the two (assuming both would want to come) or someone else.  Although that someone else, whoever it is, doesn't seem as appealing for various reasons, be it Naglesmann or De Zerbi. But yes, Amorim, would seem like an exciting appointment too.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #5686 on: March 25, 2024, 07:38:06 pm »
Well if he has said it, you can pretty much guarantee he's not joining us in the summer.
Yep.

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #5687 on: March 25, 2024, 07:52:49 pm »
Yep.

That’s killed that one.

A man who has hands that make him look like he’s  fisting a monkey is seldom reliable I find.

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #5688 on: March 25, 2024, 07:54:10 pm »
do you know many of these folks? :D
More Capon’s thing to be honest ;D
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #5689 on: March 25, 2024, 07:54:35 pm »
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #5690 on: March 25, 2024, 09:00:44 pm »
do you know many of these folks? :D



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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #5691 on: March 25, 2024, 09:05:30 pm »
Has Alonso actually said in the past that he would like to one day manage Munich and Madrid? I know he has mentioned he would like to manage us in the past but not sure about the other two.

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #5692 on: March 25, 2024, 10:22:31 pm »
Saw today that Bournemouth’s boss (who Hughes hired) shares the same agent as Alonso. That’s substantial.

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #5693 on: March 25, 2024, 10:23:59 pm »
Saw today that Bournemouth’s boss (who Hughes hired) shares the same agent as Alonso. That’s substantial.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #5694 on: March 25, 2024, 11:13:34 pm »
?

Tongue in cheek, apologies. I'm not a fan of Nagalsmann at all. Wouldn't touch him with a barge pole.

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #5695 on: March 25, 2024, 11:16:48 pm »
Hughes tried to hire De Zerbi so he is a contender
outside one i would think.
very risky one tbf

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #5696 on: March 25, 2024, 11:26:33 pm »
Hughes tried to hire De Zerbi so he is a contender
outside one i would think.
very risky one tbf

Hiring a manager for Bournemouth and Liverpool are two different things.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #5697 on: March 25, 2024, 11:41:55 pm »
Hughes takes up his role on June 1st. We are not waiting till then to start negotiations with our next manager. He's not even the one who's going to choose him. It will be Edwards/Werner/Henry.

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #5699 on: March 26, 2024, 12:59:36 am »
Tongue in cheek, apologies. I'm not a fan of Nagalsmann at all. Wouldn't touch him with a barge pole.
It's his barge pole that's part of the problem so I understand
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #5700 on: March 26, 2024, 04:54:49 am »
Xabi has agreed -- according to this guy whose name frankly means zero to me.

https://tbrfootball.com/richard-keys-says-42-year-old-has-now-agreed-to-become-liverpools-next-manager-after-jurgen-klopp/

If Keys said water is wet I’d turn on a tap and check.

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #5702 on: March 26, 2024, 09:30:31 am »
If Keys said water is wet I’d turn on a tap and check.
https://www.zmescience.com/feature-post/natural-sciences/chemistry-articles/physical-chemistry/is-water-wet/




Water can get other things wet, but it’s not technically wet itself.
Because water is a liquid, it cannot be wet itself. Wetness requires a substance to be in contact with a surface, and water is the substance in this case. Water has hydrogen bonds, which give it pretty high cohesive forces.

 


These cohesive forces work in opposition to the adhesion forces. In layman’s terms, this means water isn’t really good at wetting stuff. Alcohols are much better suited to getting stuff wet.

But although water can get stuff wet, this doesn’t necessarily mean it is wet itself.




https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/is-water-wet

Is water actually wet? The answer to this question requires some philosophical thinking and depends on how you define wetness. The debate over whether water is wet is likely to continue for as long as the planet is awash with the stuff. Water isn't wet because it is a liquid that wets things. Once you come into contact with water you become wet. Until then water is liquid and you are dry.

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #5703 on: March 26, 2024, 09:43:55 am »
There was an expectation that discussions with shortlisted candidates could potentially happen during this international break and given that clubs return to business as usual in the next day or so, I'd have thought they'd have happened by now if that was the plan.

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #5704 on: March 26, 2024, 09:44:24 am »
https://www.zmescience.com/feature-post/natural-sciences/chemistry-articles/physical-chemistry/is-water-wet/




Water can get other things wet, but it’s not technically wet itself.
Because water is a liquid, it cannot be wet itself. Wetness requires a substance to be in contact with a surface, and water is the substance in this case. Water has hydrogen bonds, which give it pretty high cohesive forces.

 


These cohesive forces work in opposition to the adhesion forces. In layman’s terms, this means water isn’t really good at wetting stuff. Alcohols are much better suited to getting stuff wet.

But although water can get stuff wet, this doesn’t necessarily mean it is wet itself.




https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/is-water-wet

Is water actually wet? The answer to this question requires some philosophical thinking and depends on how you define wetness. The debate over whether water is wet is likely to continue for as long as the planet is awash with the stuff. Water isn't wet because it is a liquid that wets things. Once you come into contact with water you become wet. Until then water is liquid and you are dry.

Fucking hell, you've just taken me back to Overdale Primary school 1977 and us all laughing as we watched a schools programme and the voice over asks "is water wet?" ;D
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #5705 on: March 26, 2024, 09:56:41 am »
Fucking hell, you've just taken me back to Overdale Primary school 1977 and us all laughing as we watched a schools programme and the voice over asks "is water wet?" ;D
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #5706 on: March 26, 2024, 09:59:39 am »
Amorim's release clause being 25m i think may rule him out if we had to pay that.

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #5707 on: March 26, 2024, 10:20:41 am »
Amorim's release clause being 25m i think may rule him out if we had to pay that.

I remember Ornstein commenting on that being essentially it doesn't rule him out, but it will give us serious pause. It isn't a knockout to his candidacy but it has certainly connected with the chin.

Honestly Ornstein's words on his podcast (not specifically any one or new one just whenever this topic has come up) seem very much as Alonso as front runner and everyone else behind.

Ornstein also, from how he talks about him, does not seem to think very highly of Nagelsmann. Doesn't call him shit but when talking about him as a candidate it is very much "erm....yeah I guess but..."

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #5708 on: March 26, 2024, 10:27:25 am »
I remember Ornstein commenting on that being essentially it doesn't rule him out, but it will give us serious pause. It isn't a knockout to his candidacy but it has certainly connected with the chin.



He said it's 10m euros this summer then still said it's quite high which didn't really make much sense, suppose it is for a manager but 10m euros is fuck all.

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #5709 on: March 26, 2024, 10:41:54 am »
Weighing Xabi Alonso's next options, and why Liverpool aren't first in line
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It's accurate to say that Xabi Alonso is in a position that is unique across the entire history of organised professional football.

Big statement, but demonstrably true.


Never before has a coach who has still to complete his first full senior season been the No. 1 target for three of the biggest clubs in the world (with 26 European Cups/Champions Leagues between them) in three different countries. Those clubs are Bayern Munich, Liverpool and Real Madrid.

His other love, Real Sociedad, had him and let him leave -- they'll have to wait a long time now. Does that mean we should already feel huge sympathy for his current employers, Bayer Leverkusen, for whom he'll seal their first Bundesliga title if his team wins just 15 of the remaining 24 points available this season?

Well, hold your horses -- not necessarily. We'll come back to Bayer 04 in a minute. This is a fertile time for Spanish coaches. Again.

Two of Europe's "Big Five" leagues will definitely be won by LaLiga exports -- Ligue 1 by Paris Saint-Germain and Luis Enrique, plus, I'm promising you, Alonso and Bayer Leverkusen. But that number could easily be three ... or four, should the Premier League be won by either Arsenal or Manchester City ... and if Xavi's Barcelona stage what would admittedly be a minor miracle in LaLiga itself.

Of the 24 clubs left in UEFA competition (Champions League, Europa League, Conference League) seven are coached by Spanish managers -- more than any other nationality. All that notwithstanding, the 42-year-old Basque who played for Real Sociedad, Liverpool, Madrid and Bayern stands out.


There have been more precocious coaches than Alonso: Pep Guardiola won the treble aged just 38, but by the time Manchester City and Bayern Munich (five European Cups/Champions League between them at the time) were the only two slugging it out for his signature, not only had he taken a year's sabbatical, he'd been coaching at the senior level for four seasons and he was 42. Another of Alonso's mentors, Jose Mourinho, was 41 by the time he took charge of Chelsea, having won UEFA trophies with Porto, but he'd been assistant coach to Sir Bobby Robson and Louis Van Gaal, or head coach at three different Portuguese clubs, for well over a decade by then.

The speed of Mourinho's ascent isn't comparable, nor was being sought by Chelsea (wealthy, but zero Champions League titles at the time) comparable to this Spanish World Cup winner currently being the No. 1 pick for Bayern, Liverpool and Madrid. What's more, Mourinho was made to audition for the job (on Roman Abramovich's yacht) up against Didier Deschamps. Alonso is Número Uno everywhere he surveys.

Mr. Ferguson, who could easily be held up as the most successful and powerful football club manager ever, was nearly 45 by the time he joined Manchester United from Aberdeen, had been coaching clubs for well over 10 years and had turned down opportunities at Rangers, Spurs and Wolves.

Hardly Bayern, Liverpool or Madrid. Enough examples for contextual comparison.

Go through all the greats, as far back as you wish, and you will not find a manager who was still to finish his first full senior season but had become the "must-sign!" guy for three such mighty clubs across three wholly different football cultures. It's astonishing.

What's that? You'd like to know what his choice will be? OK, join the queue -- so would Bayern, Liverpool and Madrid.

Alonso is a strict, sometimes stern, but ultra-disciplined guy. There is no way on earth he was going to let speculation, negotiation or career-choice deliberation get in the way of his Leverkusen team lifting all three trophies that are still available to them (Bundesliga, German Cup, Europa League). That simply isn't how he's constructed.

Meaning that in recent months, since this situation was catalysed by Jurgen Klopp announcing his decision to leave Anfield in June and then Bayern and Thomas Tuchel revealing that they would consciously uncouple, Alonso scrupulously refused to engage in either media jostling on his story or firm negotiations with the suitor clubs. Any other such reports are nonsense.

However, the recent international break, while only a brief respite from 100% intense club duties, gave him and his long-term entourage time to nudge the decision-making process forward. A little clarity seems to have emerged.

Alonso, from before he signed up to rescue Leverkusen in October 2022, has been crystal clear in his own mind where it is he'd like to deploy his talents over the next 20 years or so -- he just didn't realise that all these opportunities would drop simultaneously.

For example, in summer 2022, he was approached by Marseille's Spanish president, Pablo Longoria, with the offer to take over France's sleeping giants. Alonso had just left Real Sociedad's B team and was free.

Longoria told So Foot: "Xabi turned down the Marseille job with the same elegance he had as when he was a midfielder striking a 40-metre pass. I should have been furious to be rejected but it was all so gentlemanly that I almost thanked him for the experience! He was quite clear on the four teams he wanted to coach and was perfectly prepared to wait for them."


Those teams were, and still are, Real Sociedad, Liverpool, Real Madrid and Bayern. The pecking order, right now, is: Madrid (meaning he'd stay at Leverkusen for at least a season) very narrowly ahead of Liverpool and ... Bayern drifting.

Bayern Munich have their noses pressed at the shop window. They know what they want, they hunger for it, the money is burning a hole in their pocket -- but they look increasingly likely to have to accept they're at the back of the queue to such a degree that they might well move onward to others on their list of candidates ... and do so soon.

The fact that Alonso is on the verge of achieving something unparalleled in Bayer Leverkusen's 120 years -- making them German champions -- means he and his employers have a symbiotic relationship. Alonso would not naturally want to enforce a brutal move to the champion-elect's nearest rival -- Bayern Munich. Not when he has three other options: staying, Liverpool or Madrid.

He owes president Fernando Carro, the club, his squad and the fans too much. Not his style.

Bayern's honorary president, Uli Hoeness, told Ran Sports last week: "There are hardly any coaches like Alonso, who've proved they can handle a big club, but who don't have a job or who are on sabbatical. It's not so easy to persuade someone under contract, who may well be having great success, that FC Bayern is the 'be-all-and-end-all!'"

Genuinely, how stark it is for someone who lives and breathes FC Bayern to have to admit that. Last time the Bavarians set their sights on a Spaniard they, admittedly, elbowed Manchester City out of the way and hugely frustrated Txiki Begiristain and Ferran Soriano in managing to hijack what they thought was a guaranteed move for Pep Guardiola to come directly to England. Can they replicate that against-the-odds action with Alonso? Outside bet.

It's partly explained because of how Alonso feels about his current employers -- who extended his contract (until summer 2026) only last August. When that news was revealed, Leverkusen's sports director, Simon Rolfes, said: "Us appointing Xabi is getting great applause right now but when we chose him there was skepticism. He was world-famous ... yet a coach without experience of leading an elite club. But I was convinced of his ability."

Leverkusen acted so firmly last August, long before the magnificence of their current season even began to take shape and suggest that Alonso needed rewarding, because they were positive that Real Madrid would sign and seal their former midfielder to take over as coach this summer. It was a wholly understandable precaution.


In August 2023, the Brazilian CBF was ruled by Ednaldo Rodrigues, who had made it quite clear that he wanted the brilliant veteran Italian Carlo Ancelotti to take over the national team as soon as possible, if not sooner. Ancelotti was out of contract at Madrid in June 2024 -- his move to Brazil looked a shoo-in.

Rolfes reacted with supreme anticipation and precision -- ensuring that Alonso was contracted for almost three more years with the implication that either they'd keep the vibrant young Spaniard or be paid damn good compensation if he left. They knew that even securing him in the mid-term didn't automatically ensure that Alonso would be irrevocably locked in.

Leverkusen's Spanish CEO Fernando Carro has already explained to Marca: "We didn't need to have a release clause in writing with Xabi. We have a great relationship and he knows we're a serious club.

"We won't insist on keeping anyone who doesn't want to be here. There's nothing on paper but a verbal agreement is still an agreement. If he requires to do something in the future then we'll talk. I only hope we don't have to because he's happy and he wants to stay."

Madrid are in pole position because, long before this was a three-way auction, they specifically built him into their succession plan. Immediately as Ancelotti's Brazilian dream looked as if it were crumbling, with Rodrigues being removed from his post (only briefly it proved) by the Brazilian government last December, Florentino Perez neatly stitched in his preferred segue by renewing Ancelotti until summer 2026.

Absolutely zero coincidence that this was in harmony with when Alonso would be guaranteed to be free from his Leverkusen deal. The result: a Madrid squad beautifully built, stadium renewed and ready to earn huge new revenue, steady-hand Ancelotti tied up for two more years and Cool-Hand Xabi waiting to take over.

Meaning that Liverpool have quite some work to do in order not to join Bayern Munich with their noses pressed to the window -- seeing the candy, wanting the candy, but not being allowed in.

Alonso's ties to the city, to the club, his awareness that Liverpool, too, have renewed and fortified their squad and the residual ache, about which he's spoken, that the Premier League was the only national title he didn't win in the three countries he graced, can all, feasibly, combine to draw him away from the Bundesliga and to ask Florentino Perez for a little extra time before coming home to Madrid.

And what has the prospect of Leverkusen playing Liverpool in Dublin for the Europa League title in what might be Klopp's last game in charge of the Reds done for the pending drama -- whether Alonso wants to take over or has other plans?

It has hyped that drama right up, is what it's done. As it stands, however, Liverpool are not yet in the box seat.

Leaving the prospect of Leverkusen, who've been so smart, so visionary, so brave and so successful in prising their way into Alonso's dream career trajectory, potentially reaping the benefits of at least one more season if moving to Madrid in due course, rather than Anfield, is what he ultimately chooses.

Meantime, get geared up for Leverkusen, who have only one domestic trophy in these 120 years of history, tilting very hard indeed at winning three of the damn things in the next 60 days. And then partying.

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #5710 on: March 26, 2024, 11:06:21 am »
Josh Williams looks at Leverkusen's season so far:

https://distancecovered.substack.com/p/how-good-is-xabi-alonso?utm_campaign=email-post&r=3gcggz&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

I mean, the short version is: pretty fucking remarkable season, with the caveat Bayern are off their game enough not to make it a race.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #5711 on: March 26, 2024, 11:19:22 am »
Another journo presenting opinion as fact. He has no idea where Alonso wants to go or what he’s thinking about.

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« Reply #5712 on: March 26, 2024, 11:25:37 am »
I mean, the short version is: pretty fucking remarkable season, with the caveat Bayern are off their game enough not to make it a race.

Bayern aren't really off their game though. In fact they're doing a hell of a lot better than they did last season when they won the title.

They can get 84 points this season. Their title winning total over the last few seasons has been 71, 77, 78, 82, 78, 84 and 82.

Without Leverkusen, they would be winning at a canter again with a pretty usual points total. You have to go back to Guardiola's time there for when they did better.
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« Reply #5713 on: March 26, 2024, 11:27:16 am »
Another journo presenting opinion as fact. He has no idea where Alonso wants to go or what he’s thinking about.

Yep he clearly knows the same as all of us, with the extra phrases and insight of someone who writes about football for a living. Sure Madrid is attractive, who wouldn't want to coach a team with Mbappé, Camavinga, Vini Jnr, Bellingham etc?

But Xabi is not from there and perhaps, we don't know!, he might want to work a little harder moulding something his own vision elseware. A smart man, he should know that the Madrid job comes up every 2-4 years anyway!
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« Reply #5714 on: March 26, 2024, 11:40:50 am »
Yep he clearly knows the same as all of us, with the extra phrases and insight of someone who writes about football for a living. Sure Madrid is attractive, who wouldn't want to coach a team with Mbappé, Camavinga, Vini Jnr, Bellingham etc?

But Xabi is not from there and perhaps, we don't know!, he might want to work a little harder moulding something his own vision elseware. A smart man, he should know that the Madrid job comes up every 2-4 years anyway!

He might not be there for too much longer
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« Reply #5715 on: March 26, 2024, 12:03:43 pm »
So Real are in pole position because they have been waiting to appoint him, and have such a good team that Alonso will wait 2 years to join them. According to Hunter.

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« Reply #5716 on: March 26, 2024, 12:41:36 pm »
Bayern aren't really off their game though. In fact they're doing a hell of a lot better than they did last season when they won the title.

They can get 84 points this season. Their title winning total over the last few seasons has been 71, 77, 78, 82, 78, 84 and 82.

Without Leverkusen, they would be winning at a canter again with a pretty usual points total. You have to go back to Guardiola's time there for when they did better.

Yeah Bayern are on 2.31 PPG which is the 4th highest out of the top 5 leagues, and that’s with Eric Dier at the back!

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #5717 on: March 26, 2024, 12:52:28 pm »
So Real are in pole position because they have been waiting to appoint him, and have such a good team that Alonso will wait 2 years to join them. According to Hunter.

The circus would begin every time the Real job became vacant.

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« Reply #5718 on: March 26, 2024, 01:02:48 pm »
The circus would begin every time the Real loses a game job became vacant.

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« Reply #5719 on: March 26, 2024, 01:28:17 pm »
He could wait two years; in the interim Leverkusen would be filleted by Bayern and Xabi's stock could fall dramatically. I get he will believe in his own abilities but he'd be pretty daft to assume he'll still be Madrid's first choice in two years' time. There might be a new name emerging; Arteta might have won something.