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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8920 on: February 4, 2023, 04:43:00 pm »
The Left side of  our attack isn't the problem dickhead, how many times must it be said to you?

If you think Mane was just "left side" of our attack, than I'm sorry but your football knowledge is no better than of a toddler.
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8921 on: February 4, 2023, 04:43:36 pm »
Honestly, he deserves to be questioned just as much as the players, because things are getting worse game by game to the point where we would all be delighted to have our early season form and performances back, and they were pure and utter shite at the time.

But there is absolutely no way he should be sacked. He needs a summer and proper backing to sort this out. Only then could he really come under pressure if things stayed as they are.
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8922 on: February 4, 2023, 04:43:38 pm »
The players have had it too easy, feels like a job for life for some of them where they get cheered no matter how abysmal they are. The manager needs to show his ruthless side and I'm starting to think the fans do too.

With the exception of the goalkeeper he can fuck the lot of them off for all I care at this point. They are letting the club down badly.
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8923 on: February 4, 2023, 04:43:45 pm »
Very strange situation. We look like a team of strangers.  It's like they won enough last season so let's just steal a living like mentioned above. 
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8924 on: February 4, 2023, 04:43:54 pm »
If you think Mane was just "left side" of our attack, than I'm sorry but your football knowledge is no better than of a toddler.

He's gone, get over it.

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8925 on: February 4, 2023, 04:44:07 pm »
Something has to give. Either the players or the manager need to go.

And the answer should be obvious.

We need new players. People have been saying that for several transfer windows now. A proper reset, an actual rebuild, not expecting our manager to pull off miracles and the aging players to somehow find the legs they had 2 or 3 years ago again.

If some of these players have "stopped listening" (and I doubt that), move them on.

I think it's more about utterly broken confidence and having no midfielders that can run, really. Because that's evident every week. But hey, let's sack the best manager we've had in the PL era. Great idea.

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8926 on: February 4, 2023, 04:44:46 pm »
If you think Mane was just "left side" of our attack, than I'm sorry but your football knowledge is no better than of a toddler.

Fuck off to a Bayern forum then.

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8927 on: February 4, 2023, 04:44:54 pm »
I know none of you want to hear it but the manager hasn't suddenly become shit and all the players haven't suddenly become shit. There's something badly wrong but the answer almost certainly isn't some simplistic mantra-based shite.

There's no confidence, no belief that they can score, tons of anxiety and doubt and nerves. Like a prolonged state of shock.

It'll probably get worse before it gets better but it will get better, and that's why now is the time to hold your nerve, especially with regards to Klopp.
I'd like him to stay but we need an overhaul. The players have been getting away with a lot of crap.

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8928 on: February 4, 2023, 04:45:18 pm »
Has he lost the dressing room?
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« Reply #8929 on: February 4, 2023, 04:45:27 pm »
Get a few battlers in for the derby. Phillips and Milner, maybe Harvey off the right.
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8930 on: February 4, 2023, 04:45:39 pm »
Klopp should be the last to go. At least half the team needs replacing with some hungry players

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8931 on: February 4, 2023, 04:45:45 pm »
I mean evidently they don't. I wouldn't be shocked if they do that, but at that point it becomes open hostilities with them doesn't it

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8932 on: February 4, 2023, 04:45:57 pm »
What do you suggest we do, terminate the contracts of half the squad?

I would terminate half of our so called supporters.
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8933 on: February 4, 2023, 04:46:01 pm »
Klopp should 100% stay for the rebuild, but he should also be more pragmatic about setting the team up to suit the resources at his disposal.
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8934 on: February 4, 2023, 04:46:08 pm »
That first half isn’t on Klopp, they just didn’t try. Sell them all before him.

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8935 on: February 4, 2023, 04:46:29 pm »
Has he lost the dressing room?

We just have too many players who've been here 5+ years and the newer ones haven't had the expected impact. It's just a shitstorm
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8936 on: February 4, 2023, 04:46:46 pm »
Any player with the wrong attitude or don't look arsed, drop them immediately and get rid in the Summer.

Don't give a fuck who they are or what they've done in the past, it's now that counts. Hope Klopp fucks them off, overpaid bunch of ungrateful fuckers.
 
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8937 on: February 4, 2023, 04:46:55 pm »
Has he lost the dressing room?

I think it's more of the same voice factor and the squad hasn't been sufficiently refreshed. Players have been ran into the ground.
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8938 on: February 4, 2023, 04:46:58 pm »
Easier to sack 1 manager and his staff than ship out 8-9 players AND replace them like we ought to be doing unfortunately.

Grim times ahead. I'd back Klopp to turn it around but unsure he'll get the opportunity if this season keeps sinking to new depths
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8939 on: February 4, 2023, 04:46:59 pm »
I would terminate half of our so called supporters.

“Support” doesn’t mean “pretend absolutely everything is brilliant all the time.”
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8940 on: February 4, 2023, 04:47:08 pm »
Imagine being shite every week and still keeping your place. This team is finished and we need big changes.

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8941 on: February 4, 2023, 04:47:29 pm »
I know none of you want to hear it but the manager hasn't suddenly become shit and all the players haven't suddenly become shit. There's something badly wrong but the answer almost certainly isn't some simplistic mantra-based shite.

There's no confidence, no belief that they can score, tons of anxiety and doubt and nerves. Like a prolonged state of shock.

It'll probably get worse before it gets better but it will get better, and that's why now is the time to hold your nerve, especially with regards to Klopp.

Well said - we also have no ‘rub of the green’ atm - none at all. Over the 85 minutes we’ve created far more than Wolves, but our finishing shows all the signs of nervousness, and Wolves have with far fewer chances, been ruthless punishing us.

This game has been statistically one we could and should have won. As daft as that seems.
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8942 on: February 4, 2023, 04:47:42 pm »
“Support” doesn’t mean “pretend absolutely everything is brilliant all the time.”

What’s your version then
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8943 on: February 4, 2023, 04:48:05 pm »
So it begins. People are turning against the man that gave us the most successful period for almost 4 decades. We knew this was coming.
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8944 on: February 4, 2023, 04:48:35 pm »
Something has to give. Either the players or the manager need to go.

Do you realize how much shit we'd be in if Jurgen left now? Have you actually thought of that? Look at the state of the squad at the moment. What top-class manager is going to want to take on that rebuilding job when he won't even know how much money he'll have to spend, or if the owners who have hired him will even be around for much longer?

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8945 on: February 4, 2023, 04:48:49 pm »
Well said - we also have no ‘rub of the green’ atm - none at all. Over the 85 minutes we’ve created far more than Wolves, but our finishing shows all the signs of nervousness, and Wolves have with far fewer chances, been ruthless punishing us.

This game has been statistically one we could and should have won. As daft as that seems.

The front three of even a year ago scores at least a couple here. That relieves the pressure elsewhere. It's just a mess all round
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8946 on: February 4, 2023, 04:49:01 pm »
I suggest you all go and look up the actual word support

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8947 on: February 4, 2023, 04:49:02 pm »
If you are questioning Klopp, you’re an embarrassment

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8948 on: February 4, 2023, 04:49:05 pm »
I would terminate half of our so called supporters.
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8949 on: February 4, 2023, 04:49:11 pm »
“Support” doesn’t mean “pretend absolutely everything is brilliant all the time.”

who said it is?

It’s just the entitled bandwagon hoppers who need muting.  They don’t know what support is, as they didn’t choose Liverpool to go through bad times, they don't have the stomach for it.

Team and club is an utter mess, everyone knows that.  It’s going to take some fixing too, as it isn’t just 1 or 2 things.

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8950 on: February 5, 2023, 07:21:27 pm »
I mean, I’ve come on here to see if anyone posted anything about the James Pearce thing, but the thread. Goodness me.

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8951 on: February 5, 2023, 08:09:40 pm »
I mean, I’ve come on here to see if anyone posted anything about the James Pearce thing, but the thread. Goodness me.

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How much truth is in that, i dont know..but something he has done really pissed Klopp off
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8952 on: February 5, 2023, 09:37:39 pm »
he is the best there is working with the resources he had and achieving what he achieved with the competition he had to face.

I mean he got us into three Champions League finals, one of which we won...

he created the best-ever Liverpool team IMO.

he needs proper backing from the owners or new owners.

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8953 on: February 5, 2023, 09:39:13 pm »
he is the best there is working with the resources he had and achieving what he achieved with the competition he had to face.

I mean he got us into three Champions League finals, one of which we won...

he created the best-ever Liverpool team IMO.

he needs proper backing from the owners or new owners.
Yeah. Needs and deserves backing to build another team.

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8954 on: February 6, 2023, 09:14:58 am »
Sell them all, I don't care anymore
that just tells me one of 2 things:
a) you never did care
or
b) you never will, unless/until back to the success of the Klopp era

oh OK 3 things:
you're a fairweather supporter, nothing more.

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8955 on: February 6, 2023, 09:21:47 am »
I mean, I’ve come on here to see if anyone posted anything about the James Pearce thing, but the thread. Goodness me.

me too.  it was Pearce he had a go at, right?  but I don't know why.

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8956 on: February 6, 2023, 10:12:17 am »
that just tells me one of 2 things:
a) you never did care
or
b) you never will, unless/until back to the success of the Klopp era

oh OK 3 things:
you're a fairweather supporter, nothing more.

Needs to change his username, cos it's bollocks.
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8957 on: February 6, 2023, 10:14:44 am »
me too.  it was Pearce he had a go at, right?  but I don't know why.

Probably because Pearce is a twat?

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8958 on: February 6, 2023, 10:17:59 am »
I mean, I’ve come on here to see if anyone posted anything about the James Pearce thing, but the thread. Goodness me.

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I support the team and am 100% Klopp is the right man for the rebuild. I did not like what I heard from him on the James Pearce, mind. It is fashionable on here to be neutral or anti nearly all forms of football journalism but Pearce seems a decent guy. If anything he tows the "party" line nearly all the time and is very measured rather than criticizing Klopp or the club. Pearce does not seem to have much inside information any more, which is a shame for him but any articles he has written have only ever mildly stating what is believed by the majority of fans, for example that a lack of midfield transfers add to Klopp's difficulties. If Jurgen does not privately agree with that, I'd be worried to be honest.
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #8959 on: February 6, 2023, 10:22:41 am »
Yeah. Needs and deserves backing to build another team.

Klopp atleast deserves the chance to rebuild and bounce back for all he has done for us! If FSG decides to replace Klopp, the value of their investment would be half within 3 years! No one other than Klopp can create success on such a small budget! No one!