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Re: General Rugby Union Thread
« Reply #9200 on: September 15, 2022, 12:40:28 pm »
Life in the Wallabies yet. Two tries in 5 minutes.

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Re: General Rugby Union Thread
« Reply #9201 on: September 15, 2022, 12:41:42 pm »
The momentum shifts in this game are crazy

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Re: General Rugby Union Thread
« Reply #9202 on: September 15, 2022, 12:46:15 pm »
Fuck me that’s a good try. Touch line conversion to level it up.

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Re: General Rugby Union Thread
« Reply #9203 on: September 15, 2022, 12:49:28 pm »
Aussie commentators are a touch excited

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Re: General Rugby Union Thread
« Reply #9204 on: September 15, 2022, 12:56:39 pm »
Lucky c*nts. :lmao

Is this the ref who penalised Mignolet for holding the ball more than 6 seconds?!

Have to be somewhere at 1 and will be late now so glad something happened at the end to justify it!
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Re: General Rugby Union Thread
« Reply #9205 on: September 15, 2022, 12:58:07 pm »
Mental end to the game. That ref is so bad, for both sides. Might be the first test we have won with him reffing in some time

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Re: General Rugby Union Thread
« Reply #9206 on: September 15, 2022, 01:02:51 pm »
Mental end to the game. That ref is so bad, for both sides. Might be the first test we have won with him reffing in some time

Your prop was pretty lucky to avoid a yellow at one point.

Can’t work out who choked more there?

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Re: General Rugby Union Thread
« Reply #9207 on: September 15, 2022, 01:12:16 pm »
Your prop was pretty lucky to avoid a yellow at one point.

Can’t work out who choked more there?

I thought he would get a yellow but then I thought Swain should've seen red. Looks like Tupea's season is over because of that dickhead.

We were definitely on for the harder choke but Foley and White messing up the kick off with 40 seconds to go swings it for sure

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Re: General Rugby Union Thread
« Reply #9208 on: September 15, 2022, 05:46:24 pm »
Oh no. Eddie Butler has died.  He died in his sleep on a charity trek in Peru.

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Re: General Rugby Union Thread
« Reply #9209 on: September 15, 2022, 05:59:09 pm »
Ah shit. Thought he was a little older than 65 for some reason. Sad news.

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Re: General Rugby Union Thread
« Reply #9210 on: September 15, 2022, 06:45:26 pm »
A far better broadcaster than rugby player, sad news RIP Edward
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« Reply #9211 on: September 15, 2022, 06:52:25 pm »
That's sad news he was a good commentator.
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« Reply #9212 on: September 15, 2022, 08:35:19 pm »
Sad news, I will miss that voice.

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« Reply #9213 on: September 15, 2022, 11:29:44 pm »
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Re: General Rugby Union Thread
« Reply #9214 on: September 16, 2022, 12:06:26 am »
Lucky c*nts. :lmao

Is this the ref who penalised Mignolet for holding the ball more than 6 seconds?!

Have to be somewhere at 1 and will be late now so glad something happened at the end to justify it!

Ref trying to make up for the Rainbow Warrior incident.
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Re: General Rugby Union Thread
« Reply #9215 on: September 16, 2022, 02:29:20 am »
R.I.P Eddie Butler


For the neutral, that was probably an exciting game of classic running rugby. For a lot of Kiwi's, we'll, myself I guess, that was incredibly frustrating to watch. Something that is missing from this current crop of All Blacks is the mental fortitude and the tactical nous of previous teams.

No way should Australia have been allowed back in to the game after being down 13-31. Previous teams would have tightened the screws. I also feel there are some players in that squad that really shouldn't be there. Good players? Yes. All Black standard? No. For me that second half was one of the worst halves I've seen from an All Black side in recent years, regardless of the final few seconds of the match to secure the win. To be fair, we were off our seats but in the context of the whole half? Bleak. We were lucky the Aussies were just as bad.

And how Darcy Swain didn't see red for intentionally almost breaking Tupea's leg? No different than when Pickford took out VVD. Disgusting act and I hope he receives a lengthy f**king ban. Anyway, despite the problems this current All Black side are facing, I'm still banking on them to absolutely demolish the Wallabies at Eden Park.

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Re: General Rugby Union Thread
« Reply #9216 on: September 16, 2022, 09:23:07 am »
Shocking decision by the ref at the end there. I'm sure he can point to a rule that says he can make that decision, but he needs to show that he's done it for similiar incidents in the game (he didn't) or in previous games (maybe, but never in these circumstances). Making a unique decision like that, inside the 5m line, after already awarding the defending team a penalty, in the 79th minute of an international final is not an unbiased decision.

He had other options (stopping the clock being the obvious one) and chose the avenue that leads to a Kiwi victory seconds later. Horrible, horrible decision.
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Re: General Rugby Union Thread
« Reply #9217 on: September 16, 2022, 09:50:27 am »
Shocking decision by the ref at the end there. I'm sure he can point to a rule that says he can make that decision, but he needs to show that he's done it for similiar incidents in the game (he didn't) or in previous games (maybe, but never in these circumstances). Making a unique decision like that, inside the 5m line, after already awarding the defending team a penalty, in the 79th minute of an international final is not an unbiased decision.

He had other options (stopping the clock being the obvious one) and chose the avenue that leads to a Kiwi victory seconds later. Horrible, horrible decision.

The ref stopped the clock twice. The law is 21.4 and it states that if you don't intend to kick a penalty goal then the kick downfield/into touch must be taken "without undue delay". Foley took the piss. His own backline were screaming at him to take the kick.

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Re: General Rugby Union Thread
« Reply #9218 on: September 16, 2022, 10:04:56 am »
R.I.P Eddie Butler


For the neutral, that was probably an exciting game of classic running rugby. For a lot of Kiwi's, we'll, myself I guess, that was incredibly frustrating to watch. Something that is missing from this current crop of All Blacks is the mental fortitude and the tactical nous of previous teams.

No way should Australia have been allowed back in to the game after being down 13-31. Previous teams would have tightened the screws. I also feel there are some players in that squad that really shouldn't be there. Good players? Yes. All Black standard? No. For me that second half was one of the worst halves I've seen from an All Black side in recent years, regardless of the final few seconds of the match to secure the win. To be fair, we were off our seats but in the context of the whole half? Bleak. We were lucky the Aussies were just as bad.

And how Darcy Swain didn't see red for intentionally almost breaking Tupea's leg? No different than when Pickford took out VVD. Disgusting act and I hope he receives a lengthy f**king ban. Anyway, despite the problems this current All Black side are facing, I'm still banking on them to absolutely demolish the Wallabies at Eden Park.

Trump's tiny hands; if you happen to read this, I'm just curious as to your opinion on the question of whether Foster is the right man for the job and whether Robertson should be given a shot?

I've been against Foster's appointment from the beginning. You'll find historical posts in this thread of me bagging the fraud. My pick was Schmidt. He had clearly shown he had the ability to, initially, make a team greater than its parts and then feed through emerging talents. That is exactly what we needed. Not a choice based on succession. The status quo the NZRFU were looking to cower behind was a bunch of semi-final losers. A semi-final they lost badly. Foster then goes and picks as his captain a guy that is broken 80% of the time and the rest of the time fourth to fifth best openside in NZ. Doesn't speak to high standards.

I think Schmidt and Ryan have made improvements since coming in, the backline has been unlocked at least. But like you say, there seems a real lack of leadership on the field at times. I think the second half in the Argies loss was easily the dumbest half of footy I've seen from an AB side. I think you can contribute yesterdays collapse to the injuries we sustained.

Swain has been cited. Fingers crossed he gets a lengthy ban.

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Re: General Rugby Union Thread
« Reply #9219 on: September 16, 2022, 10:08:19 am »
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Re: General Rugby Union Thread
« Reply #9220 on: September 16, 2022, 10:18:17 am »
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Tupaea’s injury update - ruptured medial cruciate ligament (MCL)  AND partial anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) tear in his left knee - misses rest of the season. 🤬😡🤬😡

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Re: General Rugby Union Thread
« Reply #9221 on: September 16, 2022, 11:03:28 am »
What was the incident? Took him out at a ruck?


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Re: General Rugby Union Thread
« Reply #9223 on: September 16, 2022, 11:41:53 am »
I've been against Foster's appointment from the beginning. You'll find historical posts in this thread of me bagging the fraud. My pick was Schmidt. He had clearly shown he had the ability to, initially, make a team greater than its parts and then feed through emerging talents. That is exactly what we needed. Not a choice based on succession. The status quo the NZRFU were looking to cower behind was a bunch of semi-final losers. A semi-final they lost badly. Foster then goes and picks as his captain a guy that is broken 80% of the time and the rest of the time fourth to fifth best openside in NZ. Doesn't speak to high standards.

I think Schmidt and Ryan have made improvements since coming in, the backline has been unlocked at least. But like you say, there seems a real lack of leadership on the field at times. I think the second half in the Argies loss was easily the dumbest half of footy I've seen from an AB side. I think you can contribute yesterdays collapse to the injuries we sustained.

Swain has been cited. Fingers crossed he gets a lengthy ban.

Yeah, I was never a fan of Foster's appointment and I'm not sure how he remained after the debacle that was last season. Almost every game since the first ever loss against Argentina I've turned into an arm rest thumper. It's becoming embarrassing. I certainly agree about the 2nd half against Argentina this season but even then I figured 10 mins in to that second half we were probably going to lose and I felt Argentina deserved to win. Good on them. I can even accept the fact we were out played by the Irish over the course of that 3 match series. They're a world class side. Even their slowing down the play and cynical time wasting is levels above ours.

I certainly agree also that the injuries and subsequent changes to personnel and positions left us a little disjointed in that 2nd half against Australia, but therein lies part of the problem. It wasn't that long ago we could make changes from the bench, or positional switches, and lose nothing. In fact, sometimes the changes would improve the overall performance of the team but to watch some of the individual decision making or the overall tactical direction leaves me shaking my head. I think Foster needs to go now and unfortunately some of the players need to follow him because we sure as shit ain't winning a World Cup with him in charge and a few of those players aren't getting us over the line.

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Re: General Rugby Union Thread
« Reply #9224 on: September 16, 2022, 11:52:58 am »
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Re: General Rugby Union Thread
« Reply #9227 on: September 24, 2022, 09:51:38 am »
Only watching on my phone but we’re NZ just awarded a try from a Wallbies player dotting it down? It’s obviously a really hard one to judge which is why making the decision based on the original on field decision is a joke in these situations. The ref has gone to the TMO because he’s not sure what’s happened. Don’t make whether he did or didn’t award the yet the ultimate verdict when settling in the decision.

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Re: General Rugby Union Thread
« Reply #9228 on: September 24, 2022, 10:00:52 am »
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« Reply #9229 on: September 24, 2022, 09:23:20 pm »
Only watching on my phone but we’re NZ just awarded a try from a Wallbies player dotting it down? It’s obviously a really hard one to judge which is why making the decision based on the original on field decision is a joke in these situations. The ref has gone to the TMO because he’s not sure what’s happened. Don’t make whether he did or didn’t award the yet the ultimate verdict when settling in the decision.

Just watched this back and I think, somehow, Whitelock keeps a grip on the ball. It’s quite freakish

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« Reply #9230 on: October 3, 2022, 05:12:33 pm »
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Re: General Rugby Union Thread
« Reply #9231 on: October 6, 2022, 10:34:07 pm »
So Worcester Warriors have gone into administration. Players have had their contracts terminated and all non-playing staff too. What’s gone on there? Or are they just the first of many loss making clubs and is the whole thing unsustainable?

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Re: General Rugby Union Thread
« Reply #9232 on: October 7, 2022, 08:50:16 am »
So Worcester Warriors have gone into administration. Players have had their contracts terminated and all non-playing staff too. What’s gone on there? Or are they just the first of many loss making clubs and is the whole thing unsustainable?

I don't follow rugby union but was reading about the owners and their behaviour sounds proper dodgy.

The club used to be run as one company, which owned all the club's assets. What these two have done is created a series of new companies and systematically transferred the club's assets into these companies. So the ground/car park/training base/etc.

Left most of the liabilities sat in the original company, which is where the players and other staff were employed by and which is essentially the playing entity. It's this company that has been put into insolvency, owing millions.

The two shysters who own it and have run it into the ground still own the companies that own the assets.

Creditors of the original and now insolvent company - the biggest of which is us taxpayers - won't get a penny as the insolvent company no longer has any assets.

Any prospective buyers of the club would only essentially buy the club name and RFU licence. They'd have to buy the ground, car park, training facilities, etc (or lease) from the shitbags who still own them.

This kind of practice should be illegal, but the authorities would rather target someone diddling a few hundred quid in benefits.
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Re: General Rugby Union Thread
« Reply #9233 on: October 7, 2022, 11:44:30 am »
Women's World Cup starts in the morning. Unfortunately most of the games are on ludicrously early.

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Re: General Rugby Union Thread
« Reply #9234 on: October 12, 2022, 02:41:12 pm »
Wasps going into administration.

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Re: General Rugby Union Thread
« Reply #9235 on: October 12, 2022, 02:54:31 pm »
Wasps going into administration.

Is the Premiership a house of cards that’s about to tumble? Two clubs in administration within a couple of weeks of each other and I think most of that are racking up losses.

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« Reply #9236 on: October 12, 2022, 03:13:39 pm »
Is the Premiership a house of cards that’s about to tumble? Two clubs in administration within a couple of weeks of each other and I think most of that are racking up losses.

The money just isn't there in the game. Apparently two other unnamed clubs are in serious trouble aswell.

It's hardly surprising when you consider that the TV deal is £140m over 3 years, split evenly between all the clubs. It's peanuts really. Wasps' troubles mainly come from the fact that they took a bond out when they moved stadium and are now struggling to repay it due to Covid.


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Re: General Rugby Union Thread
« Reply #9237 on: October 12, 2022, 04:28:12 pm »
So, how come Club Rugby Union is unable to sustain itself?


League is struggling but you would have thought Union had a stronger financial position? Both codes have a salary cap
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« Reply #9238 on: October 12, 2022, 09:58:49 pm »
Officially suspended from the league. Really bad for Rugby in England that
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« Reply #9239 on: October 13, 2022, 07:47:07 pm »
So, how come Club Rugby Union is unable to sustain itself?


League is struggling but you would have thought Union had a stronger financial position? Both codes have a salary cap

Covid has had an impact, but, outgoings far more than income wages in particular, a lot of shit with the owners at Worcester.

 Didn't help that Wasps moved a bit [franchise FC of Rugby], first based at Sudbury next door to Wembley, then at QPR for a couple of years before moving to High Wycombe, then moved to Coventry in 2014, Wasps moved to Coventry halfway through the 14/15 season which pissed everyone off who followed them before the move..
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