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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3120 on: May 16, 2013, 01:21:39 pm »
They won the cup and the fans still hate him!!  You know what, I'm glad!  Those tossers don't deserve a man of his grace, dedication and loyalty.  The sooner he's shot of them the better and they can go on to their game of playing fantasy manager with Abramovich with his finger on the trap door button.

They will never appreciate Rafa's contribution despite him proving himself with a European trophy.

Lampard's comments last night after the game, mentioned the players the team spirtit, the fans.  No mention of the manager.  Just goes to show what he was up against really.  Wish Rafa the very best. Would love to see them re-emply Di Matteo and he then goes on to show his limitations and fear of upsetting the established players.

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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3121 on: May 16, 2013, 01:24:53 pm »
Was listening to talk sport a bit in the car earlier. That Andy Gray cock was on saying that it was nothing to do with Rafa, said he didnt see anything in his subs or set up that changed the game. When someone suggested the Real job for Rafa he actually laughed. c*nt of a man. Couldnt bare to give him any credit

I don't understand why he hates Rafa so much. I really do think he has a lot to do with the negative perception of Rafa. He's been getting a lot of recognition from most others though which is so relieving and refreshing to see. Never thought I'd see the day.

In the end, Rafa made the right decision to take the Chelsea job. It was a gamble but it paid off.
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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3122 on: May 16, 2013, 01:25:15 pm »
Lampard's comments last night after the game, mentioned the players the team spirtit, the fans.  No mention of the manager.  Just goes to show what he was up against really.  Wish Rafa the very best. Would love to see them re-emply Di Matteo and he then goes on to show his limitations and fear of upsetting the established players.

There's an article on the BBC with Cahill and Cech both praising Rafa for the job he's done there.  He's obviously not going to get any credit from Mourinho's boys, but the rest of them seem to have enjoyed working with him.  Luiz was pretty complementary too on the telly before the game.
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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3123 on: May 16, 2013, 01:27:44 pm »
Was listening to talk sport a bit in the car earlier. That Andy Gray cock was on saying that it was nothing to do with Rafa, said he didnt see anything in his subs or set up that changed the game. When someone suggested the Real job for Rafa he actually laughed. c*nt of a man. Couldnt bare to give him any credit

Andy Gray has always despised Rafa, no idea but he has. I remember him saying when Hodgson was our manager and he was doing shit he blamed it on Rafa and said that the squad Rafa left was considerably worse than the one he inherited. Cheeky MIdget c*nt.

I've had Rafa arguments with people for the last 5/6 years over Rafa trying tos how people how good he was and no matter what he does he will never get the credit. He could win 5 trebles at his next club and still someone else will get the credit for it. People were saying he's the 5th most successful manager in Europe of all time, dunno if true but wouldn't surprise me.
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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3124 on: May 16, 2013, 01:29:07 pm »
Chelsea players on Rafa:

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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3125 on: May 16, 2013, 01:29:21 pm »
Guillem Balague say that Rafa is strongly considered for the Real, Monaco & PSG jobs (think in the case of the former two he is second choice behind Ancelotti & Mancini, while he is PSG's choice to replace Ancelotti should the Italian depart Paris). He is also courted by Napoli should Mazzarri go to Roma.

Graham Hunter also say that Sorriano rates Rafa highly and he is his 2nd choice to replace Mancini should the negotiations with Pelligrini hits a rock, although that is unlikely.

Why in the world would you want Mancini over Rafa!?
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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3126 on: May 16, 2013, 01:33:39 pm »
Not sure how well he would be excepted by the Los Blancos public they are pretty tired of the Mourinho brand of anti football. Rafa is also seen as a proponent of this style, he even has a nickname in Spain for the type of football he plays "The Italian" Real fans want a return to their swashbuckling ways, Capello & Mourinho in particular left and will leave on bad terms with the fans because they didnt give them that, despite landing them La Liga titles. What could work in Rafa's favour is his record in European competition, they badly want that tenth trophy.

In terms of football style, you are right that the Real Madrid fans would prefer attacking football. Mourinho's defensive counter-attacking football was not very popular with them. While they may not be overjoyed at first with Rafa's tactics - he plays balanced football and his first priority will be to sort out the defence - I think that they may be quite happy after a few months. With the right players, Rafa's team can play very entertaining football. Real Madrid fans surely still remember the 4-0 beating of Real Madrid at Anfield - that was an example of winning attacking football.

Mourinho's problems at Madrid runs deeper than just the football style - he has criticised the fans, he has behaved a certain way that is not compatible with the Real ethos, he has provoked an internal war with his most influential players (this has been going on for 3 years) and he has continously said that he wants to leave.

Contrast that with Rafa, he grew up as a Real Madrid fan, he was a youth player there, he coached their youth teams and second team. Morever, he was assistant manager to Del Bosque for a brief spell at Real. After 3 years of Mourinho, Rafa would probably be welcome as a saviour of Real's image (even if the fans may not be totally overjoyed with the football style).

After dealing with Chelsea fans who initially hated him (many still do but many now grudgingly respect him), dealing with Real fans will be a piece of cake. If he succeeded to silence Stamford Bridge, then managing at the Santiago Bernabeu and getting the support of the local fans will be a breeze.

As a side note, I would have been interested to know how top managers like Guardiola, Mourinho, Capello, Del Bosque, Pellegrini, etc or even Ferguson would have managed in the same situation like Benitez did - with fans continuously booing them at home and then travelling to away stadiums to boo them as well. Of course, we would probably never know since it would be virtually impossible to recreate an atmosphere as toxic as Stamford Bridge.

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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3127 on: May 16, 2013, 01:49:29 pm »
Not sure how well he would be excepted by the Los Blancos public they are pretty tired of the Mourinho brand of anti football. Rafa is also seen as a proponent of this style, he even has a nickname in Spain for the type of football he plays "The Italian" Real fans want a return to their swashbuckling ways, Capello & Mourinho in particular left and will leave on bad terms with the fans because they didnt give them that, despite landing them La Liga titles. What could work in Rafa's favour is his record in European competition, they badly want that tenth trophy.
It is not as if Real are courting Zeman as Mourinho's replacement, they are after Ancelotti who himself isn't renown for his attacking brand of football.
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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3128 on: May 16, 2013, 01:51:25 pm »
Chelsea players on Rafa:

I like how the Spanish players say 'maanayer'. ;D

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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3129 on: May 16, 2013, 02:06:21 pm »

Lampard's comments last night after the game, mentioned the players the team spirtit, the fans.  No mention of the manager.  Just goes to show what he was up against really.  Wish Rafa the very best. Would love to see them re-emply Di Matteo and he then goes on to show his limitations and fear of upsetting the established players.

When they interviewed Rafa on the pitch last night he thanked the team and the people behind-the-scenes, but never congratulated the fans for travelling, getting behind the team etc.  I had a smile to myself.  He knew he wouldn't get any credit from them.  As for Andy Gray he wouldn't have a clue about the nuances of coaching (neither would Andy Townsend) and that's why i miss Taylor and Pleat because as ex-managers they'd have seen the slight differences in Chelsea's tactics

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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3130 on: May 16, 2013, 02:27:46 pm »
Best looking European trophy about that mate. The only trophy I've had the pleasure of holding that is better than that, is the old League Champions trophy, which now resides in our museum. That my friend is a thing of beauty.


There should be, or we should have, a 'Great Sporting Trophies From Around the World' thread, in this forum.

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One of the worst looking is the Premier League trophy - horrible thing. Would be good to win but it's got no class.

I agree about the UEFA Cup though - love the look of it.
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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3131 on: May 16, 2013, 02:38:42 pm »
Chelsea players on Rafa:

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It would be some sweet karma if Rafa took on of the big jobs rumoured (Real, PSG) and immediately launched a bit for Chelsea fans' newly cherished David Luiz.

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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3132 on: May 16, 2013, 02:41:49 pm »
Chelsea players on Rafa:

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Jeez, I got the freight of my life there. Hands up who else thinks that Petr Cech looks like Super Hans from Peep Show in that clip?

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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3133 on: May 16, 2013, 03:36:55 pm »
I really don't understand this attitude. I understand that some people are still pissed off with Torres because he has left us, but we have also played a role in that departure. It is not exactly a secret that his injuries were terribly mishandled at LFC, and it is not like he has run down his contract, so he can leave on the cheap. Torres' departure at that particular moment was good for both sides, and it is not his fault that we have decided to spend 70% of the Torres money on Carroll, instead of triggering Falcao's release clause, at the same amount.

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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3134 on: May 16, 2013, 04:21:27 pm »
I really don't understand this attitude. I understand that some people are still pissed off with Torres because he has left us, but we have also played a role in that departure. It is not exactly a secret that his injuries were terribly mishandled at LFC, and it is not like he has run down his contract, so he can leave on the cheap. Torres' departure at that particular moment was good for both sides, and it is not his fault that we have decided to spend 70% of the Torres money on Carroll, instead of triggering Falcao's release clause, at the same amount.


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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3135 on: May 16, 2013, 04:48:37 pm »
so, we won't hear the end of the oh so shite 'champions of europe' chant.

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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3136 on: May 16, 2013, 04:50:51 pm »
Why in the world would you want Mancini over Rafa!?


He's won the Premier League dontcha know - Rafa took the biggest club in England and couldn't even finish in the top 4, dontcha know ::)

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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3137 on: May 16, 2013, 05:55:53 pm »
so, we won't hear the end of the oh so shite 'champions of europe' chant.

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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3138 on: May 16, 2013, 06:34:35 pm »
You what? Hicks and Gillett were in charge when Rafa was sacked. He was sacked because we had c*nts for owners, he had a bad run of results, Purslow was a muppet playing Football manager and a vocal section of our own fans who wanted him out gave Purslow the cover needed to give him the old heave-ho.

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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3139 on: May 16, 2013, 06:39:19 pm »
They arnt champions of Europe for long

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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3140 on: May 16, 2013, 06:51:17 pm »
Surely it's time for even the most 'Anti-Rafa' Chelsea fans to cut him just a little slack?
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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3141 on: May 16, 2013, 06:55:18 pm »
Figures I have from BBC say both have a 57% win rate with Benitez managing a handful of games more.

Maybe if you only count PL games.
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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3142 on: May 16, 2013, 07:03:55 pm »
You what? Hicks and Gillett were in charge when Rafa was sacked. He was sacked because we had c*nts for owners, he had a bad run of results, Purslow was a muppet playing Football manager and a vocal section of our own fans who wanted him out gave Purslow the cover needed to give him the old heave-ho.

There's no mystery.

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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3143 on: May 16, 2013, 07:10:01 pm »
Chelsea players on Rafa:


Gritted teeth there by Lampard.

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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3144 on: May 16, 2013, 07:21:53 pm »
My God that is a beautiful trophy. Fuck all those who said "would rather not qualify for the Europa Cup".

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It's definitely the best looking of all the trophies I reckon. It's not the best to win obviously, but it's fucking gorgeous. By contrast the "premiership" (which I guess is the one I'd most like us to win) is a fucking horrible gaudy piece of shite that looks like something Liberaci would have shat in.
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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3145 on: May 16, 2013, 07:33:32 pm »
Truth++

It's definitely the best looking of all the trophies I reckon. It's not the best to win obviously, but it's fucking gorgeous. By contrast the "premiership" (which I guess is the one I'd most like us to win) is a fucking horrible gaudy piece of shite that looks like something Liberaci would have shat in.
I think the World Cup looks stunning, but a lot of my mates think I'm bonkers, definitely love the look of this one as well.
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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3146 on: May 16, 2013, 07:46:13 pm »
Very happy for Rafa, he has shown the slanderous press over here that he's above their crap, while he just focuses on winning trophies.
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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3147 on: May 16, 2013, 08:24:27 pm »
Chelsea what a bunch of horrible graceless ungrateful gobshites - I can't bear to see them win anything.

However, on the other hand, I am completely delighted for Rafa.
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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3148 on: May 16, 2013, 09:07:26 pm »
Not sure if it's already been posted

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-22555151
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« Reply #3149 on: May 16, 2013, 09:19:14 pm »
Not sure if it's already been posted

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-22555151

"Louis, described as a "cheeky chap", attended the match with his father as they are both "avid football fans".

It is understood Chelsea FC has no idea how he gained access to the team.

Louis' aunt Francesca Kearns, 28, said: "I was watching the game, but I wasn't paying much attention to it. I've then seen a blond boy walk past the screen and I said 'I'm sure that's our Louis'

...Television pictures showed Louis shaking the hand of a bemused UEFA president Michel Platini as the players prepared to lift the trophy. "

:lmao well in lad.

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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3150 on: May 16, 2013, 09:37:29 pm »
"Terry, described as a "cheeky chap", attended the match with his father as they are both "avid football fans".

It is understood Chelsea FC has no idea how he gained access to the team.

His aunt said: "I was watching the game, but I wasn't paying much attention to it. I've then seen someone walk past the screen and I said 'I'm sure that's our John'

...Television pictures showed John Terry shaking the hand of a bemused UEFA president Michel Platini as the players prepared to lift the trophy. "


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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3151 on: May 16, 2013, 09:48:45 pm »
"Louis, described as a "cheeky chap", attended the match with his father as they are both "avid football fans".

Good lad. ;D


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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3152 on: May 16, 2013, 10:05:05 pm »
Benfica's coach looks like Rod Stewart  :D


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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3153 on: May 16, 2013, 10:12:08 pm »
Benfica's coach looks like Rod Stewart  :D


Terry taking a picture of himself there...
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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3154 on: May 16, 2013, 10:14:53 pm »
Terry taking a picture of himself there...

Clearly going for the Brave English Waiter look.

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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3155 on: May 17, 2013, 01:05:56 am »

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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3156 on: May 17, 2013, 01:20:50 am »
The kid that joined the Chelsea players as they were collecting their medals. Around 1:02

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abuIe_9J2G0&list=UUGAbUGzbWKLHIH0KodA2DJg&index=1
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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3157 on: May 17, 2013, 06:26:01 am »
Haha I agree with him but he doesn't sound the sharpest tool in the box & a bit over the top

http://m.talksport.co.uk/radio/drivetime/130515/amazing-west-ham-caller-why-he-doesnt-want-chelsea-win-europa-league-197658
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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3158 on: May 17, 2013, 07:37:01 am »
Just saw the full game, Benfica players and fans really took this seriously. Crying at the final whistle, flat out on the ground. Two injury time winners in two games that decided their fate (almost in the league) within a week...ouch. Don't mind most of their players, but Luisao that prick, not too sad to see him lose.

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Re: 2013 Europa League Final: Benfica v Chelsea
« Reply #3159 on: May 17, 2013, 08:38:20 am »
It's funny how a trophy can change people's perception of a manager.

He's still the same manager he was 7 months ago when he took the job.