Topic: FT: Liverpool 3 v M'brough 0 (Gini 45+1', Phil 51' Lallana 56')

[JackWard33]

I like to think it was a penalty and we got away with murder... because that version pisses off other fans more which is funny

[Suareznumber7]

I thought it was a foul when I saw it live.

Having seen replays I'm not so sure.

Lovren actually doesn't do a great deal.

I still think it's a foul.  Bamford was quite intelligent getting across Lovren and shielding the ball.  Lovren did exactly what the attacker wanted him to do and gave the ref every reason to call the foul.

[slaphead]

as the manager said in the press conference after, all sort of evens out, after having offside goals given against us and blatant penalties not given for us.

It's cos it was in such a high profile game that this gets attention, but stuff like this happens all the time, and we seemed to get the shit end of it more often than not. So yep, it's really nice to finally get a couple in our favour. 

Well yeah I suppose they do. My argument has always been though that refs are not out to get us as much as some would like to believe that to be true you know

[Caston]

Why would it have been a red? Didn't they change the rules on last man tackles?

We still would have won anyway.

[jason67]

I like to think it was a penalty and we got away with murder... because that version pisses off other fans more which is funny

Haha, fuckin too right.
I don't do any sort of social media but I really hope they are calling us all the names under the sun. After the shite decisions we've had go against us this season I really couldn't give a fuck what they're saying.

Anyhow, well in Redmen, been all over the shop this last year but we got what we were after, just don't fuck up the qualifying... 

[Redcap]

I cannot believe anyone would think that's a penalty. There's minimal hand to back contact, and otherwise leg to leg contact at all. The way every pundit is so adamant it was a penalty does my head in.

Except the actual match commentator, mind. He was fairly convinced Bamford was playing for it.

[slaphead]

Why would it have been a red? Didn't they change the rules on last man tackles?

We still would have won anyway.

Dunno mate, did they ? Could well have done, My heart sank though when he done it. But as other say, its bloody brilliant seeing the uproar about it :-)

[Caston]

Dunno mate, did they ? Could well have done, My heart sank though when he done it. But as other say, its bloody brilliant seeing the uproar about it :-)

Quick google search came up with this:

A foul on a running striker committed by the last man of the defence will no longer result in a direct red card and suspension, unless the foul is violent or consists in a hand-ball in the box. As long as the foul is judged to be an honest attempt at taking the ball, the defender will only be shown a yellow card.

[Greyfox]

I still think it's a foul.  Bamford was quite intelligent getting across Lovren and shielding the ball.  Lovren did exactly what the attacker wanted him to do and gave the ref every reason to call the foul.

Atkinson apparently told Bamford at half time that he didn't give it because Bamford had thrown the anchors on and waited for Lovern to go through him....Bamford quoted in the Echo, with no hard feelings to be fair.

[slaphead]

Quick google searched came up with this:

A foul on a running striker committed by the last man of the defence will no longer result in a direct red card and suspension, unless the foul is violent or consists in a hand-ball in the box. As long as the foul is judged to be an honest attempt at taking the ball, the defender will only be shown a yellow card.

There you go, good stuff cheers. Fuck it then they'd have missed the pen anyway, Lovren would of stayed on and we'd have won 

[mc_red22]

Bamford's explanation is a load of bollocks. The ball is racing through into the area, why would he suddenly want to slow down? By doing that the ball would get away from him and there would be no shot. There's no chance he'd be gearing up to shot from 18 yards out when it'd be so much easier for him to score from 12 yards or so.

[newterp]

Never a pen.....just a "talking point". Gotta have those right? 

We looked nervous after not getting the early goal, but I was confident we would do it still. Just our decision making in the final third seemed to get worse and worse as the half wore on...

...even Gini's goal he should squared it really lol

But what a strike, and from then on we were fantastic....could have scored much more but earned the right by the 3rd to try fancy flicks and over-intricate stuff.

Nice and relaxing stroll in to the Champions League in the end, where we belong. Nice end to an eventful season.

Onwards

In noted this before - the NBCSN studio crew in the US - 5 people, and then the NBCSN commentary team calling the game - all agreed no penalty and showed 4-5 different angles and noted that the Boro player was looking for it and started his fall pre contact.

[Purple Red]

I like to think it was a penalty and we got away with murder... because that version pisses off other fans more which is funny

Correct attitude. I'm downloading the highlights as we speak but going by the GIF on the previous page, which admittedly isn't the best medium for seeing video accurately, it all looks like much ado about nothing. There seems to have been minimum contact and if anything it was a free kick. Having said that, you're absolutely right. We paid off the referee and Lovren should have really been sent off and given a 9 game ban for ruining our precious rivals' summers.

[Chief Brody]

Never seen anything like Brad Guzan.

It was like he was deliberately kicking it out of touch.
And their keeper coach has the bowest legs I've ever seen.



Apart from that I was pretty leathered for most of the day.

[stockdam]

In noted this before - the NBCSN studio crew in the US - 5 people, and then the NBCSN commentary team calling the game - all agreed no penalty and showed 4-5 different angles and noted that the Boro player was looking for it and started his fall pre contact.

I thought it was more of a Drogba move where he slowed down a bit hoping to get contact and then fall. It's hard to call it and to be honest I'm surprised the referee didn't give it.

Anyway he didn't so all of those opposition fans who are moaning about it can moan all they like if it takes their minds off how poor a season they have had.

[Gegenpresser]

Bamford's explanation is a load of bollocks. The ball is racing through into the area, why would he suddenly want to slow down? By doing that the ball would get away from him and there would be no shot. There's no chance he'd be gearing up to shot from 18 yards out when it'd be so much easier for him to score from 12 yards or so.

Yeah, Bamford was playing like a defender trying to see it out, not a forward trying to score. It was completely unnatural behavior for an attacking player, though we're certainly fortunate Atkinson had the sense to recognize it for what it was.

I cannot believe anyone would think that's a penalty. There's minimal hand to back contact, and otherwise leg to leg contact at all. The way every pundit is so adamant it was a penalty does my head in.

Except the actual match commentator, mind. He was fairly convinced Bamford was playing for it.

Commentators are paid to manufacture controversy.

[El Lobo]

If the ref saw it or linesman had the bottle to give it and I doubt we're having the same conversations today.

With all due respect, why are you even arsed? You were finishing 6th either way.

[stockdam]

Commentators are paid to manufacture controversy.

Absolutely. They are paid for "extreme" views that generate debate.....especially on phone-ins. I know the brother of one TV pundit who was told that his "sensible" comments needed to change.

[Dougle]

Bamford's explanation is a load of bollocks. The ball is racing through into the area, why would he suddenly want to slow down? By doing that the ball would get away from him and there would be no shot. There's no chance he'd be gearing up to shot from 18 yards out when it'd be so much easier for him to score from 12 yards or so.

He didn't stop, but he did slow down and place himself across the defender's path. Could have been given but I thought he did try and manufacture it (as many players do). Anyway we were lucky there. Happy days.

[Groundskeeper Willie]

Credit to Atkinson for reading the situation so well.

[Beninger]

They should stop giving a foul any time any other player puts the brakes on to draw a foul anywhere else on the pitch.

[skooma]

Great season! Glad to be in the Top 4. 

[Frizzo]

If the ref saw it or linesman had the bottle to give it and I doubt we're having the same conversations today.

Yeah, that's football you big sook.

I don't give a fuck either way, we've got the best penalty saving keeper in the league and would've won with 10 men.

Go focus on your Europa league final.