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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14440 on: August 22, 2022, 09:23:19 pm »
The decline is so sad to see

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14441 on: August 22, 2022, 09:24:36 pm »
He's a backup and has been for the past 2 seasons. The quicker Nunez and Jota come back the quicker he can come on for cameos.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14442 on: August 22, 2022, 09:24:48 pm »
We’re allowing at least 3 starters to lose their legs in our kit and Firmino is one of them.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14443 on: August 22, 2022, 09:25:10 pm »
Heartbreakingly past it. 😕

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14444 on: August 22, 2022, 09:26:19 pm »
Incredible that this is the same player from 3-4 years ago. Not even a shadow of himself these days, may as well start with 10 men.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14445 on: August 22, 2022, 09:27:25 pm »
The decline is so sad to see
It really is.  Love the guy but he's completely gone for whatever reason..
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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14446 on: August 22, 2022, 09:33:13 pm »
The decline is so sad to see

It really is. That 20 mil Juve offer looks pretty good now for all parties.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14447 on: August 22, 2022, 09:34:44 pm »
We'd have been better selling and keeping Origi to be honest.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14448 on: August 22, 2022, 09:37:53 pm »
He ran himself into the ground every game for 5 years. Just nothing left in the legs. The lad needs a move to a less demanding team and league. Still got the quality if not the physicality.
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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14449 on: August 22, 2022, 09:37:54 pm »
Writing obituaries during the third game of the season….have a word lads, not good.
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14450 on: August 22, 2022, 09:41:22 pm »
Writing obituaries during the third game of the season….have a word lads, not good.

It not just this season though, he has not been himself for sometime now.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14451 on: August 22, 2022, 09:43:26 pm »
He's still decent as a squad player, option from the bench.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14452 on: August 22, 2022, 09:50:01 pm »
Not his fault our almost record signing supposed to be his successor got sent off and received a 3 match ban as a result
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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14453 on: August 22, 2022, 09:51:05 pm »
Not his fault our almost record signing supposed to be his successor got sent off and received a 3 match ban as a result

He’s our fifth choice striker. Jota being out is a big blow aswell.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14454 on: August 22, 2022, 09:52:05 pm »
Struggled tonight, but he doesn't look anywhere near match fit yet.  Amazed he stayed on the pitch, but when there are no other options, what can you do.
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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14455 on: August 22, 2022, 09:52:34 pm »
Doesn’t bring anything to the table anymore.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14456 on: August 22, 2022, 09:53:29 pm »
Clear to see he is unfortunately done he brought nothing to the game

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14457 on: August 22, 2022, 09:53:36 pm »
Dunno if he's finished or not but the "drop deep and drag defenders out" stuff hasn't worked for ages, it's basically he drops deep, no oppo player follows him, clogs midfield, lays it off 5 yards and leaves us light in attack against a 4 or 5 man defence and 2 dm's. We are just far more threatening with someone there who wants to score goals. Needs to reinvent himself but don't see him getting renewed anyway so just gotta hope he can roll back the years a few times.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14458 on: August 22, 2022, 09:55:24 pm »
Sadly had to laugh at someone in the halftime thread who said he's not looking like the same player at the moment. He's just been off it for two years. Poor unfortunately but I think it was always going to happen given the football played and the effort put in.
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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14459 on: August 22, 2022, 09:55:39 pm »
Like a few others should have got rid a few seasons ago.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14460 on: August 22, 2022, 09:58:43 pm »
Like a few others should have got rid a few seasons ago.
I feel he's a useful squad player but he shouldn't be starting for us.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14461 on: August 22, 2022, 10:00:20 pm »
My view on a player has never been further apart from the consensus than it is on Firmino.

I make it almost three years since he was consistently good. And he was really bloody good at that point it has to be said - some dazzling performances and big goals away from home really drove us on early in our title-winning season. For that, and so much more, he'll forever be a legend for us.

However, his form dipped at a certain point during that season, and he got worse after COVID. He'll be fine once the crowds are back, everyone said. Well the crowds have been back a year now and his form is yet to improve.

I think he can still offer us something in Europe - goals against Inter and Benfica last season show that - but everything domestically feels too quick and physical for him now. His lack of goal threat has always frustrated me but its almost non-existent these days. He rarely attacks the box even when the ball is wide. His link-up play still ranges from the sublime to the ridiculous with a larger proportion of the latter than before, even though at his best his passing could still be bafflingly horrific at times.

Watching him centrally compared to Mane in the second half of last season is night and day it really is. Please stop getting excited when he comes back from yet another muscle injury because the player from 2016-19 is gone and he's never coming back.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14462 on: August 22, 2022, 10:02:18 pm »
He is well and truly done. Even as 5th choice he’s done. Needs to move to a slower league

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14463 on: August 22, 2022, 10:05:32 pm »
My favourite player at the club. Unfortunately it looks like it’s game over.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14464 on: August 22, 2022, 10:09:18 pm »
He’s ran himself into the ground . Feels like that with quite a few of our lads to be honest

What a player but yes very much a stand in now. A move to Serie A awaits

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14465 on: August 22, 2022, 10:13:05 pm »
Looks bereft of any confidence or joy. You need a happy Bobby on the pitch with some swagger to be brilliant. Just isnt happening for him right now. Also the pressing, thats just gone. We had Milner and Harvey pressing higher than him.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14466 on: August 22, 2022, 10:14:58 pm »
Even leaving aside the marked decline in his levels over the past few years, he just doesn't really suit the way we play anymore? He has always dropped deep to receive the ball but that was when we had two wide forwards who bagged tons of goals and midfielders capable of running beyond him. Bar Salah, we have none of those things now.

He doesn't score very often, he doesn't quite have the legs to press anymore (and our team is struggling to do that anyway), he's no longer particularly effective at linking play, he's visibly struggling with the pace of the game. He still has the odd effective half and he's still a very good footballer, but he looks badly ill-suited to this team now, and it's being compounded by the lack of legs elsewhere on the pitch.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14467 on: August 22, 2022, 10:16:04 pm »
Always a sad sight when a club legend declines. Relying on him for a lengthy period will undoubtedly blunt our attack.

Have to hope Nunez had had his one moment of madness and Jota recovers very soon.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14468 on: August 22, 2022, 10:16:33 pm »
Even leaving aside the marked decline in his levels over the past few years, he just doesn't really suit the way we play anymore? He has always dropped deep to receive the ball but that was when we had two wide forwards who bagged tons of goals and midfielders capable of running beyond him. Bar Salah, we have none of those things now.

He doesn't score very often, he doesn't quite have the legs to press anymore (and our team is struggling to do that anyway), he's no longer particularly effective at linking play, he's visibly struggling with the pace of the game. He still has the odd effective half and he's still a very good footballer, but he looks badly ill-suited to this team now, and it's being compounded by the lack of legs elsewhere on the pitch.
He's still useful in Europe and the cups but it's clear that he's a shadow of the player he used to be.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14469 on: August 22, 2022, 10:23:54 pm »
Teams seem happy to let him drop deep and have the ball because there's either not much movement around him or he's not doing anything dangerous with it. Tough one to see to be honest. He's a fine 3rd choice #9 but he doesn't look like he can change a game anymore
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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14470 on: August 23, 2022, 01:33:50 am »
I posted a few weeks ago that he has been off it for a good while (as in years) Everyone disagreed.

Well who's laughing now? Still not me.

He's one of a growing list of players who are "great to have around" just preferably not on the actual pitch.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14471 on: August 23, 2022, 01:40:03 am »
I think we've squeezed every last drop out of him in all honesty and has nothing really left in his last 9 months as an LFC player.

It's sad because he was truly world class once but I don't think he's played at that level since 2019. His decline has been apparent.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14472 on: August 23, 2022, 01:44:02 am »
I love Bobby but unfortunately he played like a 50 year old now. I rather have a youngster who can run all the time in the team at the moment.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14473 on: August 23, 2022, 03:01:44 am »
Bobby isn't match fit.

The demise of Roberto Firmino is not upon us.
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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14474 on: August 23, 2022, 03:04:22 am »
Bobby isn't match fit.

The demise of Roberto Firmino is not upon us.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14475 on: August 23, 2022, 03:36:26 am »
It’s sad to see the game look hard for him now.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14476 on: August 23, 2022, 03:39:23 am »
It's hard to blame him because he's fifth choice attacker and when Jota and Nunez return that's what he'll be. Domestic cups, late subs, CL dead rubbers (finger's crossed)

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14477 on: August 23, 2022, 04:36:23 am »
Bobby is done. Sad to see, but it's true.
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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14478 on: August 23, 2022, 07:22:35 am »
Bobby isn't match fit.

The demise of Roberto Firmino is not upon us.
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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #14479 on: August 23, 2022, 09:45:22 am »
At times he was playing more in CM yesterday defending than an actual CF - second striker...

with proper midfield, he would have no need to be so defensive yesterday...

I don't think he is done done... just needs to play as an actuall attacker