Topic: Trent Alexander-Arnold

[JamesG L4]

If Clyne had that game we'd laying into him. Getting caught in possession in the second half very nearly cost us, and many of their attacks came from his side.

Very young, and I can't imagine the pressure involved making your league debut (at 18) at that shit hole, but I don't think he's ready to be a PL starter just yet.

It's not as though a £90m player got caught in possession or anything.

[bornandbRED]

It's not as though a £90m player got caught in possession or anything.

No need for the sarcasm, just stating what I saw.

Lad has talent, just think he was a bit out of his depth yesterday. Which was expected.

[Redcap]

1. We are probably back in Europe next season and TAA should get plenty of games the next couple of years.
2. Clyne is 26 by April. So after a couple of seasons he will be in his late 20s and that might cause a periof of a couple of seasons where TAA and Clyne compete for the role and their differing attributes might make them suited to different games.
3. TAA is versatile and may be used as depth in other positions too.
4. The world's best teams have these dilemmas.

1. Agree
2. Agree - in fact, as good as Clyne is, we shouldn't rule out the possibility that Alexander-Arnold could become even better.
3. I'm basically not a fan of this unless we're planning on changing his position semi-permanently. He's definitely nowhere near good enough to get games at CM. In fact, he probably isn't even ahead of Ejaria in that position. RW? If someone of a similar quality to Mane is what we're looking for, I think Trent is a long way for being that good in the position.
4. Yeah but the world's best teams also loses these young players, and sometimes it costs them. E.g. Thiago Alcantara to Bayern, Toni Kroos to Real. The world's best teams do get over it, but it's still a shame when it happens.
5. I wouldn't be opposed to him going out on loan at some point. Not in the next couple of seasons, when he'll be young enough that cup/European games will be sufficient for his development. After that though, if he's not quite Clyne quality, he could feasibly go on loan to any number of good PL teams. Swansea, if they survive, would be a good option.

[DefJack]

If Clyne had that game we'd laying into him. Getting caught in possession in the second half very nearly cost us, and many of their attacks came from his side.

Very young, and I can't imagine the pressure involved making your league debut (at 18) at that shit hole, but I don't think he's ready to be a PL starter just yet.

Clyne had a considerably worse game against them last season, he got absolutely torn to pieces.

Guess he wasn't a PL starter based on that either.

[OLDIE]

If Clyne had that game we'd laying into him. Getting caught in possession in the second half very nearly cost us, and many of their attacks came from his side.

Very young, and I can't imagine the pressure involved making your league debut (at 18) at that shit hole, but I don't think he's ready to be a PL starter just yet.

Bit harsh mate.

Rob Jones made his debut at Old Trafford and was up against
Ryan Giggs. Jones like TAA had a debut to be proud of.

Oh Jones gave the ball away too.

Its football players give the ball away.

Jones turned out alright I suppose. Well until injury fucked him

[G a r y]

He got rinsed a few times within the first 30 minutes but he grew into the game and I can only remember him diving into a tackle once more during the whole game.

He'll learn and it is all called progress. Well done to the lad I say, a solid game in a really tough match

[Klippity Klopp]

I would have played Gomez right back.  Not convinced TAA's long term future will be as a full back.  He can play other positions.

He should play mid week and I hope he has a stormer, wherever used.

[Filler.]

Very young, and I can't imagine the pressure involved making your league debut (at 18) at that shit hole, but I don't think he's ready to be a PL starter just yet.

I'd counter that.

Said much to me about what Klopp is trying to do seeing him in the line-up. There was no desire to cover that hole left by Clyne with Milner, and putting Moreno back in on the other side, or trying to fill it some other way - Klopp didn't go out and buy a cover/starter at the start of the season (which I was hoping for) - I think he's told Trent that he's the cover, and has given him the confidence you need by trusting the young lad to do just that. And then he gives his full debut at the hardest place to go to. That's a vote of confidence right there, and I thought he equipped himself very well. Yes, he got caught often at the start, which shouldn't be too surprising, but played pretty well after that I thought.

He came out of there pretty unscathed, and what a huge boost for him. I think after that, he'd take another start in his stride.

[s_andrews89]

I'd counter that.

Said much to me about what Klopp is trying to do seeing him in the line-up. There was no desire to cover that hole left by Clyne with Milner, and putting Moreno back in on the other side, or trying to fill it some other way - Klopp didn't go out and buy a cover/starter at the start of the season (which I was hoping for) - I think he's told Trent that he's the cover, and has given him the confidence you need by trusting the young lad to do just that. And then he gives his full debut at the hardest place to go to. That's a vote of confidence right there, and I thought he equipped himself very well. Yes, he got caught often at the start, which shouldn't be too surprising, but played pretty well after that I thought.

He came out of there pretty unscathed, and what a huge boost for him. I think after that, he'd take another start in his stride.

Absolutely agree with this 100%.

Many better right backs have gone there and had terrible times, up against Martial, Rashford or any other left sided attacker in their history. He got done a few times, but so did Milner. He gave the ball away a few times, so did the rest of the team. He's 18 and was making his league debut for Liverpool at Old Trafford. most of us would have had brown underwear before we'd even stepped on the pitch.

Not sure I understand the (albeit few) shouts that his future isn't at right back. He's got everything in his locker to be a top full back. He's so calm it's unbelievable sometimes. The fact that Klopp was happy to start him instead of move Milner or risk Gomez' fitness says enough to me. Think he'll be getting a lot more games at RB this season as we go on too.

[Klippity Klopp]

Not sure I understand the (albeit few) shouts that his future isn't at right back. He's got everything in his locker to be a top full back.

He has everything in his locker to do it, I agree.

But he's got the tools to play other positions as well.  He's a very bright talent, that we can all agree on.

[Phil M]

That crossfield pass second half, can't remember was it to Coutinho or Firmino but it was an absolute peach.

Love this lad's attitude, that debut will stand him in relaly good stead.

[ctyapt]

I was worried after Utds first forays down that flank that they were just going to target TAA and Martial would run riot. But absolute credit to the lad he got his head on and alright he didn't shut Martial down, but there was no easy pickings on our right side.

It was as klopp said a "wild" game at times , no one had time on the ball , loads of experienced players , top internationals were rushed harried caught in possession misplaced passes . Trent had a really solid game under the fiercest examination didn't let anyone down so fair fucks to him .
Also let's not forget that Clyne has had a bit of a shocker at OT was it last season?

All in , well played lad.

[reddebs]

I'm not sure what some fans expect from young players as they start to make the step up from youth to senior level football as very few come in, make an immediate impact and maintain that impact in every game they feature.

Those saying TAA isn't ready for PL starts, well of course he's not, ffs he's 18 and if he was ready because his talent was absolutely amazing, he'd have been playing there all season instead of Clyne. 

He's our back up RB, he's got a long way to go before he's replacing Clyne, he may never replace him but right now he's getting and taking the opportunities he's being given and hasn't let himself nor the Club down.

His starting debut could have been in a better (less pressured) fixture but it didn't faze him after he got to grips with things, he has the trust of his manager which is a powerful confidence boost and oh my word how much more is he going to learn by being able to analyse his own game and mistakes in a real live pressure situation.

He was neither outstanding, nor shite but it was a massive 90 minutes in terms of his development and we should rejoice that we had a scouser starting in this fixture for the first time since Stevie left.

Well done young man, was great seeing you out there.

[Bergersrightwingviews]

I'm not sure what some fans expect from young players as they start to make the step up from youth to senior level football as very few come in, make an immediate impact and maintain that impact in every game they feature.

He was neither outstanding, nor shite but it was a massive 90 minutes in terms of his development and we should rejoice that we had a scouser starting in this fixture for the first time since Stevie left.

Well done young man, was great seeing you out there.

Indeed, as are almost all players, and TAA was essentially free in PL terms.

He is our back-up right-back and a perfectly adequate one. He may become our first-choice one eventually. I think we would be hard pushed to find a better back-up rb than him for anything under £10m.

It is nice to see us fill the squad out with the kids. Hopefully that will mean we can spend all our money buying top quality players for the first team. 

[vallapureddy]

Not berating Clyne or something, but TAA will be better than Clyne in the next 3 to 4 seasons. He has more tools to work with than Clyne.

[gatcliffe]

Not berating Clyne or something, but TAA will be better than Clyne in the next 3 to 4 seasons. He has more tools to work with than Clyne.

Some statement that to be fair let's not put any pressure on TAA at this stage of his career.

[Klippity Klopp]

Not berating Clyne or something, but TAA will be better than Clyne in the next 3 to 4 seasons. He has more tools to work with than Clyne.

Attacking-wise, probably.

Defensively, that's a bold call - hope so!

[simbo]

I would have played Gomez right back.  Not convinced TAA's long term future will be as a full back.  He can play other positions.

He should play mid week and I hope he has a stormer, wherever used.

Gomez aint fit enough to play CB let alone Right back, plus all that twisting and turning at full back is the last thing he needs

[U13]

Not berating Clyne or something, but TAA will be better than Clyne in the next 3 to 4 seasons. He has more tools to work with than Clyne.

That's a ridiculous shout at this stage for a number of reasons.

Predicting the trajectory of an 18 year old that's barely played at the top level is difficult enough but to then say he'll be better than one of the best full backs in the league?

Always shocks me how criminally under rated Clyne is by the way.

[U13]

I'm not sure what some fans expect from young players as they start to make the step up from youth to senior level football as very few come in, make an immediate impact and maintain that impact in every game they feature.

Those saying TAA isn't ready for PL starts, well of course he's not, ffs he's 18 and if he was ready because his talent was absolutely amazing, he'd have been playing there all season instead of Clyne. 

He's our back up RB, he's got a long way to go before he's replacing Clyne, he may never replace him but right now he's getting and taking the opportunities he's being given and hasn't let himself nor the Club down.

His starting debut could have been in a better (less pressured) fixture but it didn't faze him after he got to grips with things, he has the trust of his manager which is a powerful confidence boost and oh my word how much more is he going to learn by being able to analyse his own game and mistakes in a real live pressure situation.

He was neither outstanding, nor shite but it was a massive 90 minutes in terms of his development and we should rejoice that we had a scouser starting in this fixture for the first time since Stevie left.

Well done young man, was great seeing you out there.

I don't think anyone saying he didn't play well is placing too high an expectation on TAA as a young player, they're acknowledging that he's just not at the stage to meet the expectation of arguably the most intense fixture in the english football calendar. That's not a slight on TAA or a lack of understanding of youth development, it's just acknowledging that he's not ready yet.

I agree with the poster that said had Clyne put in that performance he'd have received plenty of criticism and I'd go further than that by saying had Moreno played like that he'd have been slaughtered.

[Keith Lard]

Someone I know keeps calling him Terence Trent Darby.

Gonna lamp the fella soon.

[newterp]

Gomez aint fit enough to play CB let alone Right back, plus all that twisting and turning at full back is the last thing he needs

yeah ok.

[simbo]

yeah ok.

Glad you agree

[Anfield89]

yeah ok.

He probably isn't fit enough yet, he will be eased back into the team.

[MaxStafford]

He looked ok against Martial I have to say

[newterp]

Klopp already said that he knows AA had some trouble at the start and then aquitted himself quite well. oddly repetitive discussion going on.

[So… Howard Philips]

I think the conscensus is he had a decent game and has potential to develop. Obviously Klopp trusts him otherwise he could have played Milner at RB and Moreno at LB.

[TepidT2O]

Bit harsh mate.

Rob Jones made his debut at Old Trafford and was up against
Ryan Giggs. Jones like TAA had a debut to be proud of.

Oh Jones gave the ball away too.

Its football players give the ball away.

Jones turned out alright I suppose. Well until injury fucked him

Not true on Rob Jones.. He hardly ever gave the ball away.  He was ridiculously good in possession.

Similar to Milner at left back in that respect..


But (and it's a big but), Jones had played about 75 times for Crew...


There's the huge difference...

[Anfield89]

Not true on Rob Jones.. He hardly ever gave the ball away.  He was ridiculously good in possession.

Similar to Milner at left back in that respect..


But (and it's a big but), Jones had played about 75 times for Crew...


There's the huge difference...

Think he meant in the sense that all footballers give the ball away sometimes.

TAA will have a job to be anywhere near as good as Rob Jones but early signs are great.

[TepidT2O]

Think he meant in the sense that all footballers give the ball away sometimes.

TAA will have a job to be anywhere near as good as Rob Jones but early signs are great.

I know, but I couldn't bear anyone saying that Rob Jones gave the ball away

My point though, is that he's played 75 times for Crew, which is huge...

[Lynndenberries]

Very impressed with his debut. I'm sure it wasn't easy for him to get thrown into (arguably) one of our biggest league matches of the season at Old Trafford, but he played well. He had a few shaky moments early on, but you could tell he grew into the game.

Also, must be said that his pass to Coutinho on the counter was excellent.

[Anfield89]

I know, but I couldn't bear anyone saying that Rob Jones gave the ball away

My point though, is that he's played 75 times for Crew, which is huge...

It's mad how he managed 75 games in three years and then only 155 in 8 for us.

[andywilko]

His winger got hooked on 65 minutes - says he did a job.

[MrRaptorTurtle]

Played really well tonight and made some vital clearances!

[rawcusk8]

Defensively brilliant tonight, showing some very good signs aint he.

[JackWard33]

He's going to be a player - really composed and great athleticism. A level above tonight

[SwissV]

MOTM for me. Thought he did excellent. About the only one who did.

[Upinsmoke]

Some great defensive work today, cut out lots of danger.

[MBL?]

MOTM tonight.

[Trump's tiny tiny hands]

Backed up from Sunday really well. Thought he'd struggle later on but he looked sharp throughout.