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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104240 on: January 10, 2022, 07:09:55 pm »
I've just been trying to get that up on mine but it was showing Goal Rush instead but maybe I was too early if it's only just kicking off.

It's on my tv now.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104241 on: January 10, 2022, 07:17:05 pm »
I'm just about to try it myself, that's weird because it says it on both on the official website.

It's on now Jill, I was probably too early even though it was saying it was currently live.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104242 on: January 10, 2022, 07:23:22 pm »
It's on now Jill, I was probably too early even though it was saying it was currently live.

They have made a good start Clarkson controlling midfield.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104243 on: January 10, 2022, 07:28:41 pm »
They have made a good start Clarkson controlling midfield.

It's good to actually have some academy football to watch for a change.  I think all I've seen so far this season has been the European games.

There's a few making their 23s debut by the sound of it which just shows how depleted we are as I think Derby is doing well this season so no pushovers.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104244 on: January 10, 2022, 07:34:07 pm »
It's good to actually have some academy football to watch for a change.  I think all I've seen so far this season has been the European games.

There's a few making their 23s debut by the sound of it which just shows how depleted we are as I think Derby is doing well this season so no pushovers.

They have just said seven Academy players have had first team football this season, pretty impressive, Frauendorf and Balagizi have been exciting.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104245 on: January 10, 2022, 07:36:29 pm »
They have just said seven Academy players have had first team football this season, pretty impressive, Frauendorf and Balagizi have been exciting.

That run from Frauendorf just then  :o

Yeah it's impressive how much we've been able to rely on so many.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104246 on: January 10, 2022, 08:06:47 pm »
That run from Frauendorf just then  :o

Yeah it's impressive how much we've been able to rely on so many.

He is very exciting and direct. It'll be interesting to see how Layton Stewart does when he comes back. Because of the injury a couple have crept in front of him, but he's a natural finisher and deserves a bit of luck.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104247 on: January 10, 2022, 08:12:01 pm »
He is very exciting and direct. It'll be interesting to see how Layton Stewart does when he comes back. Because of the injury a couple have crept in front of him, but he's a natural finisher and deserves a bit of luck.

Injuries are the one thing that scuppers a lot of players at this stage of their careers, so not being available when the opportunity arises opens up a space for someone else.

Getting back into your rhythm after a long lay off is also about mental strength too.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104248 on: January 10, 2022, 08:24:14 pm »
Injuries are the one thing that scuppers a lot of players at this stage of their careers, so not being available when the opportunity arises opens up a space for someone else.

Getting back into your rhythm after a long lay off is also about mental strength too.

Definitely he’s got a vital pre-season up ahead maybe a couple of games if he’s lucky.

Owen Beck has been good tonight always up there. Getting closer.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104249 on: January 10, 2022, 08:29:17 pm »
Definitely he’s got a vital pre-season up ahead maybe a couple of games if he’s lucky.

Owen Beck has been good tonight always up there. Getting closer.

It feels a bit like "one of those games" where we're creating loads but nothing's working, yet.  One thing with our lads though is they're fitter than most and score a lot of late goals.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104250 on: January 10, 2022, 08:31:29 pm »
You were saying? 😀
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104251 on: January 10, 2022, 08:32:11 pm »
That was a lovely pass by Norris in that move.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104252 on: January 10, 2022, 08:35:58 pm »
You were saying? 😀

 ;D

Whoever it is upending our players all the time on our left needs a serious talking to by the ref if he's not going to book them.  It's getting ridiculous now and no wonder our lads are getting frustrated with it.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104253 on: January 10, 2022, 08:41:29 pm »
;D

Whoever it is upending our players all the time on our left needs a serious talking to by the ref if he's not going to book them.  It's getting ridiculous now and no wonder our lads are getting frustrated with it.

Is it the same one who keeps getting soft free kicks?
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104254 on: January 10, 2022, 08:44:30 pm »
Is it the same one who keeps getting soft free kicks?

That's the one.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104255 on: January 10, 2022, 08:45:19 pm »
That looks a nasty injury for the Derby lad.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104256 on: January 10, 2022, 08:51:34 pm »
That looks a nasty injury for the Derby lad.

Yeah he was getting treatment for ages.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104257 on: January 10, 2022, 08:53:10 pm »
That 16 year old Bobby Clarke has got a good turn on him. 😀
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104258 on: January 10, 2022, 08:54:33 pm »
That 16 year old Bobby Clarke has got a good turn on him. 😀

Is that Lee Clark's lad? How did he do?
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104259 on: January 10, 2022, 09:04:24 pm »
Is that Lee Clark's lad? How did he do?

I'm not sure, he came on right at the end and did a beautiful turn to make a really good chance. Yes, he is the one.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104260 on: January 10, 2022, 09:10:03 pm »
That 16 year old Bobby Clarke has got a good turn on him. 😀

Tricky little player isn't he.   

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104261 on: January 10, 2022, 09:35:44 pm »
I'm not sure, he came on right at the end and did a beautiful turn to make a really good chance. Yes, he is the one.

Thanks. Another one I'm excited about (not seen him play yet, just heard he's a talent).
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104262 on: January 10, 2022, 09:38:43 pm »
Thanks. Another one I'm excited about (not seen him play yet, just heard he's a talent).

He seems to have some tricks up his sleeve as Debs said. It should be fun watching him.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104263 on: January 11, 2022, 01:26:00 am »
Maybe the youth teams are not brimming with high quality players at the moment, but when are they ever? A generation passed between Stevie G and Alexander-Arnold breaking through.

However, the youth team are now producing players good enough to fill gaps in the squad that would once have been filled by purchases. Even if Neco Williams, Rhys Williams, Morton et al don’t become first team legends, they will make us a tidy profit. For this reason, I think the youth team is doing ok.

I think this is a really important point and one that is usually overlooked - if the academy is able to produce our backup players, not necessary ‘first name of the team sheet’ players, that’s absolutely fine. It allows the first team to spend their limited resources on improving the first team. Add to this the ability to make some sales and generate funds means that it’s a pretty successful model for an academy - with the kicker to top it off being getting a Trent / Curtis once every few years.

In terms of players - I think there are definitely players to get excited about.
- Really like Bajcetic- looks a rolls Royce player - but I would be very surprised if it’s not in the 6, rather than at CB.
- Balagizi has had awful luck, missed the pre-season because of an injury, and has been injured on and off all season, otherwise there’s a very good chance he would have a made a senior appearance by now
- Both fullbacks (Beck and Bradley) could end up saving us quite a bit of money in the long run
- Kaide Gordon has every chance of making it big - looks a superstar
- Freaundorf looks pretty damn useful - technical ability and tenacity - pretty massive ingredients for success here
- Musialowski - bags and bags of talent, but at the moment his decision making is pretty awful - those things can definitely click pretty quickly with players of that age, and given the elite level coaching they receive, he’ll be given every chance

I’m a massive fan of Clarkson, but wonder if his size ends up being his downfall - as he’s such a beautiful player to watch…

Bobby Clark looks a good technical footballer - may have to drop back one line or be groomed into the false 9 role as he doesn’t have the pace for the wide positions - but looks great given he’s only 16 and has never looked out of place every time he’s been on the pitch

I understand the shouts about not getting too excited, and I totally agree that not all or even most of them will make it- but I disagree that the academy has a dearth of talent - the age group we have little talent in is the 19-22 age range - hence why when people watch the u23s it looks bereft of standouts. What we do have is a heck of a lot of talented kids that are 18 or under - so we won’t see them necessarily take off until they fully grow into their bodies…. But there are a lot of very good technical young footballers in the academy currently. Probably most important we have a first manager and coaching staff that are willing to promote these players and provide a pathway to the first team.

Let’s enjoy it while it lasts!

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104264 on: January 15, 2022, 09:25:16 am »
U18s play shitty today on lfctv from 11.55am 👍

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104265 on: January 15, 2022, 10:28:38 am »
The team is: Davies, Davidson, Scanlon, Miles, Chambers, Bajcetic, Frauendorf, Mabaya, Cannnioner, McDonald and Clark. Another chance to see Frauendorf and Clark then.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104266 on: January 15, 2022, 10:38:04 am »
The team is: Davies, Davidson, Scanlon, Miles, Chambers, Bajcetic, Frauendorf, Mabaya, Cannnioner, McDonald and Clark. Another chance to see Frauendorf and Clark then.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104267 on: January 15, 2022, 11:05:31 am »
Dear god I'm dumb!

Sorry folks it's not 11.55am it's 10.55am 🤦

That’s a bizarre kick off time, are they deliberately trying not to have an audience for it?

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104268 on: January 15, 2022, 11:24:54 am »
That’s a bizarre kick off time, are they deliberately trying not to have an audience for it?

Police advise? Like a 90s United-Liverpool kick off time.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104269 on: January 15, 2022, 11:25:43 am »
That was a lovely goal by us, offside though. It’s so annoying that because of the Premiership rules they can’t bring us the derby live.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104270 on: January 15, 2022, 11:33:12 am »
That was a lovely goal by us, offside though. It’s so annoying that because of the Premiership rules they can’t bring us the derby live.

I was just saying exactly that Jill. 

Youth football doesn't get anywhere near enough coverage so to restrict it further is crazy. 

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104271 on: January 15, 2022, 11:36:43 am »
This ref is annoying me, the City players earning free kicks as easily as the first team.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104272 on: January 15, 2022, 11:40:16 am »
This ref is annoying me, the City players earning free kicks as easily as the first team.

It's always the same Jill.  I've seen us have seven bells kicked out of us with nothing awarded or any punishment and us end up with loads of yellows and a sending off or two for barely niggles.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104273 on: January 15, 2022, 11:41:01 am »
Unlucky lads.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104274 on: January 15, 2022, 11:42:46 am »
We should be leading this game. We’ve had the best chances so far. Mabaya has been impressive today.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104275 on: January 15, 2022, 11:50:37 am »
What a soft free kick that is by the City lad at the end. We had a far worse foul earlier on and the ref didn't want to know, pathetic refereeing.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104276 on: January 15, 2022, 12:27:29 pm »
Police advise? Like a 90s United-Liverpool kick off time.

The game isn’t even a stadium, it’s around a training pitch so don’t see what the risk is to be honest

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104277 on: January 15, 2022, 12:31:15 pm »

Mbabya looks a decent athlete

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104278 on: January 15, 2022, 12:34:38 pm »
Mbabya looks a decent athlete

He's had a really good game today, he was central to most of our good moves especially in the first half.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104279 on: January 15, 2022, 12:52:10 pm »
Total travesty we've dominated the second half, yet they nick an undeserved goal at the end. There have been some standouts, Blair has looked really dangerous since coming on, I also think Josh Davidson has caught the eye especially in the second half, as has Mabaya. We've more than held our own against City, but as ever you need to take your chances.
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