Topic: Everton v Liverpool: 227th Merseyside Derby Monday 8PM

[Red_Rich]

Got a feeling this is going to be a mad game like the Gary Mac one in 2001

We'll win a real ding dong game 3-2

[wemmick]

I hope Everton are really  reved up  for this one. We'll beat them soundly if they lose discipline.

[Omygoditsomar]

This will be their obi one Kenobi moment. They will let us win and they will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine. In a galaxy far away of course

[Trendisnotdestiny]

We battered them 4-0 at Anfield and to be honest 4-0 flattered them. They've added Gueye to the midfield and Bolasie who is now out for the season. Williams at the back is a slight improvement on John Stones but that isn't saying a great deal.

It's still the same team pretty much. We have fitter players, faster players. We play much better football than them and have scored twice as many goals as them. Yeah, they might have a nasty streak in one or two players that we don't have but that wont be the difference between the sides. Coutinho missing is a blow for us and possibly Matip too but we've got enough in reserve to cope.

Form goes out of the window in these games but it shouldn't need to. Ride the early storm from them (the fumeometer will be at raging point before kick off) and take the sting out of it. Once we do that and start getting our attacking players into the right areas they wont know how to cope.

I sense a big game from Firmino. He's been off the boil for a while but I can see him bouncing back with a goal or two. We're just better than them in almost every department and the table proves that (as it has done for many years).

Winning and losing often does not come down to who is better (we see it every week in the prem).   

This has to do with our ability to assert dominance over a long time ----> and the whole city remembering every aspect.  This is something that we have struggled with too --- just not in this fixture ---- but winning the league.

The best thing for the Bitters is to forget and start a new --- with a bunch of players who neither care about the rivalry nor understand.

The best thing for us is to remind them "what time it is" (Sturridge)

[jckliew]

Massive game tonight!   Allez Les Rouges! 

[Historical Fool]

Everton looking for their third or fourth win in 227 games against us.

This stat is pretty inaccurate.

[Ken-Obi]

Every time they feel confident it's always good news for us.

[Historical Fool]

This will be their obi one Kenobi moment. They will let us win and they will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine. In a galaxy far away of course

He hasn't got Wan, doesn't need Wan.

And turned into Palpatine.

[jooneyisdagod]

We can catch up though, it just depends on how far behind we are. I said that if we go into the new year more than 6 points behind Chelsea then we probably won't catch up, but if we keep it to 6 points or even 7 at a stretch, there's still a chance. Chelsea have Spurs (a), Leicester (a) and us at Anfield all in January. And right after they play us, their first game of February is Arsenal. It's a must win but even if we fail to win then I still wouldn't crown Chelsea as champions just yet.

Mathematically, yes we can. Practically speaking, we need to keep the points difference to 6 points and no more. Chelsea are due to drop points. But when they do, we must be around to capitalise. If not, we'll be stuck in a three-way or four-way battle again.

You're obviously not very good at math then if you think 9 points is an insurmountable points difference with 63 still available. It isn't a MUST win but obviously it's a game the entire fanbase desperately wants to win for obvious reasons. Anyone thinking this is a must win (excluding the fact that it's a derby) or that we can't catch up to 1st place should we drop points is using crazy hyperbole and needs to chill the fuck out. 

Yeah, by that logic Man Utd are title contenders.

[Redcap]

Doesn't really matter about 'catching up' or whatever at this stage.

The way to the title is simple. Keep winning. Keep adding 3 points to the total. We'll see where we are in May.

We're not in Europe this year. The league is our one and only priority. You can be certain we'll be going into every game with the best possible XI to win the game.

I think it's not really helpful to think about Chelsea at this stage. They're obviously a very good team and will post a good points total by the end of the year. Thinking too much about where we are in relation to them though, will be putting unnecessary pressure on ourselves.

[Kovai Red]

Just win... Any scoreline would be okay if we are to get 3 points

[McrRed]

We haven't won there in ages...would be great if we did.
Hate Monday night games if only because of the wait... Hours to go now...

[mikeb58]

As they haven't lost at home this season, a point will be decent.But the Derby is always tough to call and any outcome wouldn't surprise me....except a 0-0 draw!

Deffo reckon there is goals in it, unless both teams are happy to sit back, avoid defeat and turn it into a drab affair.
 
3-2 to us would be brilliant, haha and I'm normally pretty good at predictions, so here's hoping. Come on you Mighty Reds!!!

PS.. they are not all bad you know, hope the atmosphere is remembered for all the right reasons.

[Upinsmoke]

I think in our last few games you've seen the best and worst of us. I'm just hoping that bump in the road was quickly remedied at Middlesbrough but at the end of the day I'm also cautious that we can turn in a performance and capitulation like Bournemouth and also play some real high quality stuff like at Boro` so your just hoping we turn up and play to our level, if we do then they don't come anywhere near our level,but we need to be at 100 percent for 90 minutes.

Incidentally if we play anyone and are on our game for 90 minutes we beat them, it's just those lapses or succumbing to Bournemouth in the manner we did still cast doubts in my mind.

[Anfield89]

Everton looking for their third or fourth win in 227 games against us.

 

[Gifted Right Foot]

Got a feeling one of our players are going to do a madness this game.  Im going to go with Mane banging in one or two and getting sent off.

[the good half]

This is gonna be a cracker I feel.
Goals a plenty.

Just prayin' they don't get the hump and try to banjax LFC palyers.

[vinothmct]

Keep Lukaku quiet or say cut the supply lines and score early we will win.

[Solomon Grundy]

As they haven't lost at home this season, a point will be decent.But the Derby is always tough to call and any outcome wouldn't surprise me....except a 0-0 draw!

Deffo reckon there is goals in it, unless both teams are happy to sit back, avoid defeat and turn it into a drab affair.
 
3-2 to us would be brilliant, haha and I'm normally pretty good at predictions, so here's hoping. Come on you Mighty Reds!!!

PS.. they are not all bad you know, hope the atmosphere is remembered for all the right reasons.

It would be brilliant if we were the first to beat them at home. It would make them sick to the pit of their stomachs.

[Kovai Red]

It would be brilliant if we were the first to beat them at home. It would make them sick to the pit of their stomachs.

Hehee  They'll blame the referee and the FA for the conspiracy

[Persephone]

I normally say just 3 points please and I don't care how it comes, but with this lot I want us to smash them. Just so I can spend the next few days watching the blue fewm haze and read the delusional posts while I'm stuck at work. Oh and also because they're twats

[RedSince86]

It would be brilliant if we were the first to beat them at home. It would make them sick to the pit of their stomachs.

The fume at the final whistle at Woodison

[Solomon Grundy]

The fume at the final whistle at Woodison

[Jookie]

Don't care what anyone says but Everton away is always the biggest game in our league season.

It'll be a good atmosphere tonight. Just hope we can get the ball down and play our game. If we do that then we should create the opportunities needed to win.

Any type of win will do though.

[pyroparty]

Wonder what minute for their first boo and penalty appeal?

I hope we smash these horrible c*nts. And if we can't then a stoppage time winner for us via corruption after being battered for 90mins

[Kennys from heaven]

We've got to keep our composure, as Mirallas and co will fly around trying to disable everything in a Red shirt.

Not going to be pretty, in fact I think it will be a bit of a bore, but so long as we bore everyone by one goal more than them that's all that counts. Don't look forward to these like I used to anymore for many reasons and it won't be a game for the faint hearted. Wondering also what the Monday night effect will be. Very weird playing it now, but I guess that's what £3bn gets.

Irrespective, COME ON YOU REDMEN!

On a side note, I've been thinking that a version of "Blue Moon" should be created for such games, but called "Blue Fume". Pretty sure some of the cards on here will come up with appropriate lyrics...  Be good to have a new song for these games after all these years! 
 

[Medellin]

Can't wait.

Was speaking to a young blue earlier & he was all made up that he is attending his 1st Woodison derby tonight.
I told him not to get too excited 'cause normally when the anticipation & expectations are high..it can be a dour affair..
What surprised me a tad..this lad has bleated blue this blue that for a long time & when i found out it was his 1st derby..at 24 years old..i couldn't help myself,i laughed loud & shared some beautiful Woodison moments..
Like in '85 (which still is my favourite) when i told him there were 4 or 5,000 reds on the Gwladys st..he said fuck off..
Yep i said..Dalglish scored after 27 sconds..fuck off again..

Reminisce lads & lasses..i was ehind the opener that day,real funny remembering now which i will share one day.

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How many were in the St end that day?

[Caston]

SkySports are reporting that both Joel Matip and Emre Can are set to be passed fit to face Everton this evening.

[Groundskeeper Willie]

SkySports are reporting that both Joel Matip and Emre Can are set to be passed fit to face Everton this evening.

Was just going to ask about this. Bench for them then. Great options to have to throw on.

[liversaint]

Pleasing lack of doom and gloom from the bedwetters in here so far.

Looking forward to this, no work today/tomorrow, few beers, nice and relaxed, just like the old days.

[fowlermagic]

Great news if true as will be nice to see Matip back in the backline and Can will add some depth to our somewhat depleted bench. Form will be thrown out the window tonight as these games always test the nerves esp players making their debut in a derby. Looking forward to it ...some great memories there from 85. Two of the best teams ever for us both.

[Red_Irishman]

Was just going to ask about this. Bench for them then. Great options to have to throw on.

Matip will start if fit

[So… Howard Philips]

Pleasing lack of doom and gloom from the bedwetters in here so far.

Looking forward to this, no work today/tomorrow, few beers, nice and relaxed, just like the old days.

Plenty of time to wet the bed.

[xbugawugax]

Matip will start if fit

no point risking him if he still not 100%

him and emre on the bench would thicken the squad a bit.

No news on sturridge?

[Titi Camara]

Everton looking for their third or fourth win in 227 games against us.

Goodison   Total   %
Everton   36   35%
Liverpool   34   33%
Draws   33   32%
Total   103   

Anfield   Total   %
Liverpool   43   43%
Everton   24   24%
Draws   34   34%
Total   101   

Total   Total   %
Liverpool   77   38%
Everton   60   29%
Draws   67   33%
Total   204   

[Red_Irishman]

no point risking him if he still not 100%

him and emre on the bench would thicken the squad a bit.

No news on sturridge?

Matips injury is an odd one. Klopp has said as much. If he's fit enough for the bench he's fit enough to start, it varies from game to game whether he can play or not.

If he's passed fit, he'll play I reckon.

[Klippity Klopp]

Hope Origi destroys Mori.

Remember how he was holding the crest towards the Everton fans when he got sent off, after he did that shithouse challenge and they were losing 2-0 at the time.

Not quite sure why he was so proud of himself or their club.

[KissThisGuy]

I've a job interview at 2, so after that goes badly it's very important that the Redmen do their utmost to elevate my mood. Prediction 3-1 to Liverpool, but I'll be ringing my cousin to tell him they are favourites in an attempt to jinx the Bitters.

[Solomon Grundy]

Hope Origi destroys Mori.

Remember how he was holding the crest towards the Everton fans when he got sent off, after he did that shithouse challenge and they were losing 2-0 at the time.

Not quite sure why he was so proud of himself or their club.

Embarrassing twat. Hope Big Divok ruins him tonight.

[redk84]

I've a job interview at 2, so after that goes badly it's very important that the Redmen do their utmost to elevate my mood. Prediction 3-1 to Liverpool, but I'll be ringing my cousin to tell him they are favourites in an attempt to jinx the Bitters.

Good luck!

I have a feeling they will try make this a dogged affair.....similar to Arsenal game. They'll probably think they can win it that way by getting under our skin.
To be fair Koeman didn't let his Southampton throw in the towel against us last season either (in their last game against us anyway)

But fuck them
Fuck Mori
Fuck everything blue today

We'll win this