Topic: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & X assists worth of 'I told you so'

[rowan_d]

Madrid were stupid because Arturo Vidal is the player they were crying out, little to do with Suarez

Vidal genuinely loves it at Juventus. Madrid fans aren't happy at all with Benzema, and I think we'd have sold Suarez abroad if silly money came the other way (and it would've done with Madrid )

[Aristotle]

Vidal genuinely loves it at Juventus. Madrid fans aren't happy at all with Benzema, and I think we'd have sold Suarez abroad if silly money came the other way (and it would've done with Madrid )

Of course he does. But it's quite telling too. Once upon a time Madrid would've spent the summer going after him and they would've gotten him. Instead they "settle" for someone who isn't even the best in his position and make him the most expensive player of all time

[Red number seven]

I agree. He's a world class talent but one who doesn't want to be here. He doesn't give a flying fuck about LFC or any supporter praising him in this thread. Use him for his amazing goals and creativity and sell him to the highest non-English bidder when the time is right for Liverpool.

I don't agree. He doesn't want to be here for very legitimate footballing reasons, but still tried as hard as anyone to get a result from the SOL. I absolutely love him as a footballer for that reason. How he has behaved doesn't concern me going forward if he continues to do his best for the club. What we should be doing as a club is understanding the reasons Luis Suarez doesn't want to be here, and addressing them, not making out he is some kind of evil pantomime villain because he had the audacity to want to play at the best level he could.

I think we should try to build a side that players of the quality of Suarez want to play for, thrive in and maximise their own potential in rather than bleating that good players want to leave because we're worse than Everton. If we look like we're doing that, and he changes his mind and wants to stay, I would be utterly delighted and quite happy to see him sign another contract and see out his career at Liverpool.

[Popcorn]

In the summer I really wasn't bothered what he did which seems a bit silly now considering it's not like the player we would have brought in to replace him would have been anywhere near his level. I just really didn't want to go through a drawn out saga.

Now that he's still here, I'll enjoy his performances for the club like I always have done. He's brilliant and holding a grudge is absolutely pointless. It's their career, he wanted Champions League football it seems but since we have him for the season we should appreciate him before he heads off.

Pettiness really doesn't do any good, enjoy Suarez this season and see what we can do with him in the team. If he has another great season then it will massively benefit us. He looks as passionate as ever which is great to see.

[Red number seven]

He looks as passionate as ever which is great to see.

I think it is also a good reflection on him as a professional and a human being that he does look passionate about playing, even though he didn't get his way in the summer.

[Dubred]

I don't agree. He doesn't want to be here for very legitimate footballing reasons, but still tried as hard as anyone to get a result from the SOL. I absolutely love him as a footballer for that reason. How he has behaved doesn't concern me going forward if he continues to do his best for the club. What we should be doing as a club is understanding the reasons Luis Suarez doesn't want to be here, and addressing them, not making out he is some kind of evil pantomime villain because he had the audacity to want to play at the best level he could.

I think we should try to build a side that players of the quality of Suarez want to play for, thrive in and maximise their own potential in rather than bleating that good players want to leave because we're worse than Everton. If we look like we're doing that, and he changes his mind and wants to stay, I would be utterly delighted and quite happy to see him sign another contract and see out his career at Liverpool.

Fully agree with you.

Not happy at times with the way he went about things but you can't argue with his ambition to play at the highest level.

He would have been as happy as a pig in shit in Rafas team of 2008.

If we can maintain this form up to Christmas it will help with the quality of signing we could attract in Jan.

And if we push and get a top 4 finish we might just end up keeping the little troublemaker and add some more quality of that ilk too.

[Historical Fool]

Hahahaha I'm thinking this, he's staying at least till next Summer so I don't get why they are wasting there time - it's like not like BR's going to come on RAWK and be like fuck me this guy talks loads of sense I'll bench our best player

There time? Where time? Is it here time yet?

Anyway, it's documented and there are quotes that some high profile players including Suarez read or used to read RAWK. Don't rule out BR coming on RAWK as well to peruse fan sentiment, it's a distinct possibility.

[trimore]

I get that Suarez wanted to leave for footballing reasons. What I don't get is, between him and Torres, why they came here in the first place?

We are not a billionaire team and not being run by Alex Ferguson. Thus there will never be a time when we are guaranteed top level football the way Barcelona, Real Madrid, Chelsea, PSG and Bayern Munich are every single year, and Man Utd used to be.

If any top talent comes here they should be in it for the ups and the downs for the persistent fight against the teams that have better resources (whether more proven managers, higher revenue, or billionaire owners). Suarez knew this when he came here and I think Torres did to (Hicks and Gillete account's are not nor have even been as big as Abromovich's), both had grand dreams of bringing LFC to the top again, reveling in the underdog status as they beat the big guns (Torres mentioned his working class allegiance to Atletico and Suarez mentioned his loyalty to the smaller population Uruguay national team when identifying with LFC underdog status), but they couldn't stomach the reality of the fight.

And when they can't stomach it any more then they should leave at least partially on our terms not completely their own, taking responsibility for either picking us and demanding great things that were always hopeful at best or at the time not being good enough for the richer teams. A compromise that neither individual wanted, while we obviously changed out tune from one player to the other.

But still he is trying to better his reputation and seems less petulant on the pitch, bettering his value, so who knows.

[TSC]

There time? Where time? Is it here time yet?

Anyway, it's documented and there are quotes that some high profile players including Suarez read or used to read RAWK. Don't rule out BR coming on RAWK as well to peruse fan sentiment, it's a distinct possibility.

Are you seriously believing what you're claiming?  This is one of many LFC forums, albeit probably the biggest in terms of users.  But then with that comes many more users who don't and never have gone to games.  There are other forums out there, smaller in terms of users, but arguably with a much higher concentration of users who are actually match going supporters contributing financially to the club.  Unlike internet warriors from afar. 

Are you suggesting the manager and players target RAWK to get some sort of handle on the 'word on the street', and subsequently Brendan may read a couple of posts from you and whoever, and will promptly sell Suarez?

Ha ha.  Couldn't make it up,  Unbelievable, deluded and well a bit sad really.

[SamAteTheRedAcid]

There time? Where time? Is it here time yet?

Anyway, it's documented and there are quotes that some high profile players including Suarez read or used to read RAWK. Don't rule out BR coming on RAWK as well to peruse fan sentiment, it's a distinct possibility.

Really? I can't imagine anyone getting much joy from reading RAWK slating them. You'd have to be a masochist to want to do it to yourself.

I'd be pretty sure that the club would advise players against going on forums and reading opinions on the team. If I was in charge of integrating players to the club I'd deffo make sure they were told not to.

It's a site where people seriously advocate dropping Suarez, or declare Gerrard past it/not a team player/not really that important since about 2009. You'd have to be a glutton for punishment to do it to yourself.

God forbid a less well established player took a look at what half of RAWK thinks about them in the post match.

Think perhaps it's overstating RAWKs importance to think the players and BR are reading every word on here about them.

[SamAteTheRedAcid]

I get that Suarez wanted to leave for footballing reasons. What I don't get is, between him and Torres, why they came here in the first place?

Torres was blatantly obvious, Atletico weren't going anywhere, couldn't go to another Spanish team, Italy wasn't that strong, and Rafa was a big draw as we were titans in Europe at that stage.

Suarez - bigger stage than the Dutch league (even though Ajax are obviously a massive club and in the CL), bigger wages, more media exposure, perhaps thought he'd get to play with Torres (before he left), at least get to play with Gerrard and a bunch of other decent players. Also chance really to be the main man at a club like ours and become a hero by restoring CL football/winning trophies.

Don't think it's that hard to envisage.

Oh, yeah, did I mention the wages?

[paddysour]

Are you seriously believing what you're claiming?  This is one of many LFC forums, albeit probably the biggest in terms of users.  But then with that comes many more users who don't and never have gone to games.  There are other forums out there, smaller in terms of users, but arguably with a much higher concentration of users who are actually match going supporters contributing financially to the club.  Unlike internet warriors from afar. 

Are you suggesting the manager and players target RAWK to get some sort of handle on the 'word on the street', and subsequently Brendan may read a couple of posts from you and whoever, and will promptly sell Suarez?

Ha ha.  Couldn't make it up,  Unbelievable, deluded and well a bit sad really.

Obviously no one from Liverpool is coming on here to make decisions. But just pretend you're a player for a minute, wouldn't you be the least bit curious? I remember Steven Ireland put his brilliant season at Man City down to how much stick he was taking on their forums.

I'd say there's a least a handful that would have a look now and again, it's human nature.

[Red number seven]

Torres was blatantly obvious, Atletico weren't going anywhere, couldn't go to another Spanish team, Italy wasn't that strong, and Rafa was a big draw as we were titans in Europe at that stage.

Suarez - bigger stage than the Dutch league (even though Ajax are obviously a massive club and in the CL), bigger wages, more media exposure, perhaps thought he'd get to play with Torres (before he left), at least get to play with Gerrard and a bunch of other decent players. Also chance really to be the main man at a club like ours and become a hero by restoring CL football/winning trophies.

Don't think it's that hard to envisage.

Oh, yeah, did I mention the wages?

Agreed. Torres obvious - He came when we had just been in 2 of 3 European Cup finals. He didn't know H&G were about to destroy the club.

Suarez wasn't quite the star he is now. He was rated internationally, but had only played in the Dutch league. He knew he'd get to play with some better players in a higher profile club and league and either return us to the CL or use us a stepping stone to that ambition.

The strange thing with Suarez isn't why he came, but why he signed a new contract extension a year ago without a proper release clause.

[Red number seven]

Obviously no one from Liverpool is coming on here to make decisions. But just pretend you're a player for a minute, wouldn't you be the least bit curious? I remember Steven Ireland put his brilliant season at Man City down to how much stick he was taking on their forums.

I'd say there's a least a handful that would have a look now and again, it's human nature.

Well I am Brendan Rodgers and I'm leaving Lucas out on Saturday. Apparently he can't play with Gerrard.

[Red number seven]

Well I am Brendan Rodgers and I'm leaving Lucas out on Saturday. Apparently he can't play with Gerrard.

Shite, I've just found out he's suspended. Not to worry; come Jan I'm bombing out Allen, Henderson, Gerrard, Lucas, Johnson and Agger and bringing Suso back. I never realised how unpopular they were.

[shawnk]

Torres was blatantly obvious, Atletico weren't going anywhere, couldn't go to another Spanish team, Italy wasn't that strong, and Rafa was a big draw as we were titans in Europe at that stage.

Suarez - bigger stage than the Dutch league (even though Ajax are obviously a massive club and in the CL), bigger wages, more media exposure, perhaps thought he'd get to play with Torres (before he left), at least get to play with Gerrard and a bunch of other decent players. Also chance really to be the main man at a club like ours and become a hero by restoring CL football/winning trophies.

Don't think it's that hard to envisage.

Oh, yeah, did I mention the wages?

Yep, deserve every penny of them too.

[Uruguayan36]

He will score another two goals  this weekend.

[BazC]

He will score another two goals  this weekend.

Quick question. Considering you were saying Sturridge was average, what did you make of his play to give Luis unmissable goal scoring chances? Maybe you could even interview Luis and ask him what he thinks about his fellow strike partner (who's top class by the way).

[DeLeiva]

Maybe you could even interview Luis and ask him what he thinks about his fellow strike partner (who's top class by the way).

I love how these "interviews" are part of the vernacular now on RAWK when this lunatic pops his head
up.

[TLW 84]

Quick question. Considering you were saying Sturridge was average, what did you make of his play to give Luis unmissable goal scoring chances? Maybe you could even interview Luis and ask him what he thinks about his fellow strike partner (who's top class by the way).

El Loco: What do you think of Sturridge?

El Cunto: He's Great. I recommend he plays for Arsenal.

[BazC]

I love how these "interviews" are part of the vernacular now on RAWK when this lunatic pops his head
up.

I only saw the recent one after the international break, but since grifter's rants, the funniest thing I've seen on RAWK.

[DeLeiva]

I only saw the recent one after the international break, but since grifter's rants, the funniest thing I've seen on RAWK.

Wasn't having a dig at you mate BTW.

[BazC]

Wasn't having a dig at you mate BTW.

Ha yeah, I know. I was just saying that I've only seen one of his 'interviews', but it was hilarious. Can't wait for the next one.

[DeLeiva]

Ha yeah, I know. I was just saying that I've only seen one of his 'interviews', but it was hilarious. Can't wait for the next one.

Calls him Luisito........... must be true!

[Walk on, walk on]

He has Fool in his username for a reason....

Well he's the one who thought downing was our best player last year, so yeah.

[Uruguayan36]

Luisito will be playing for Uruguay two important games.

If u wanna watch him here are the details:

Ecuador vs Uruguay...Friday,octuber 11th.

Uruguay vs Argentina...Tuesday,octuber 15th.

Uruguay just need one point to grab the fifth position...but if defeat Ecuador may reach the fourth position and qualify directly to the world cup.

Uruguay need Luis and Cavani to play better than ever...those games are very difficult ones...

Argentina 29
Colombia 26
Chile 24
Ecuador 22
Uruguay 22
Venezuela 19

[Yorkykopite]

Hey Luisito, how ya doin?

Hey fine.

You feelin' good?

Sure.

Things going well?

You betchya

You got the kid now.

Yeah, might name him after you.

Ah, cool. Anyway great talking to you Luisito

You too my friend.

[redgriffin73]

Hey Luisito, how ya doin?

Hey fine.

You feelin' good?

Sure.

Things going well?

You betchya

You got the kid now.

Yeah, might name him after you.

Ah, cool. Anyway great talking to you Luisito

You too my friend.

[kavah]

Luisito will be playing for Uruguay two important games.

If u wanna watch him here are the details:

Ecuador vs Uruguay...Friday,octuber 11th.
Uruguay vs Argentina...Tuesday,octuber 15th.

Thanks U36. I'll be watching for sure. If Luisto gets a yellow card is he suspended for the Argentina match?

[The 1989 Brit Awards]

Hey Luisito, how ya doin?

Hey fine.

You feelin' good?

Sure.

Things going well?

You betchya

You got the kid now.

Yeah, might name him after you.

Ah, cool. Anyway great talking to you Luisito

You too my friend.

I see nothing wrong with this interview. Nothing.

You called him "Luisito" just like U36, ergo it has to be right!  And his answers are precisely what you expect from Suarez: deep-knowledge and convincing answers.

[ls7slash]

If Luisto gets a yellow card is he suspended for the Argentina match?

No, but if he has 2 yellow cards in this games he will lose the next game, either against Jordania or World cup first match

[juan1001]

I see nothing wrong with this interview. Nothing.

You called him "Luisito" just like U36, ergo it has to be right!  And his answers are precisely what you expect from Suarez: deep-knowledge and convincing answers.

I don't believe that. We call him Luisito when we are talking about him, but we call him "Lucho" when we are interviewing (talking to) him.

[rocco]

Luisito will be playing for Uruguay two important games.

If u wanna watch him here are the details:

Ecuador vs Uruguay...Friday,octuber 11th.

Uruguay vs Argentina...Tuesday,octuber 15th.

Uruguay just need one point to grab the fifth position...but if defeat Ecuador may reach the fourth position and qualify directly to the world cup.

Uruguay need Luis and Cavani to play better than ever...those games are very difficult ones...

Argentina 29
Colombia 26
Chile 24
Ecuador 22
Uruguay 22
Venezuela 19

best of luck u36


All I want to know is Suarez  is staying for the rest off the season and once we get top 4 he stays longer

[Uruguayan36]

I am sorry rocco i can not answer your question.
I can not interview Luis in this moment,he is too busy, and he is the only one who knows what he is going to do next .

[BazC]

When can you interview him? Can you not send him some email questions and then ask him to answer them on his long haul flights next week?

Suggested questions:

- How are you?
- How's are you feeling?
- Is it good to be back?
- Will you score?
- Thanks, bye

[kavah]

No, but if he has 2 yellow cards in this games he will lose the next game, either against Jordania or World cup first match

You'd think there would be an amnesty got the play off & certainly for the finals.
Home & Away against Jordan. That's grueling. When is it?

[Uruguayan36]

You'd think there would be an amnesty got the play off & certainly for the finals.
Home & Away against Jordan. That's grueling. When is it?

   Jordan is now preparing for the two-legged tie against South American opposition in November.
That mean that Luis Suarez will be away playing for Uruguay around the world...
Liverpool will have to play two important games in november against Arsenal and Everton.
Do u think we can beat them without Luis?

[Number 7]

   Jordan is now preparing for the two-legged tie against South American opposition in November.
That mean that Luis Suarez will be away playing for Uruguay around the world...
Liverpool will have to play two important games in november against Arsenal and Everton.
Do u think we can beat them without Luis?

Will those playoffs be in November? If they need a playoff.

Hopefully they can win against Ecuador and avoid a playoff.

[Beninger]

I wonder if he'll feel the need to stay if we're in the mix at the top come January...

[rushie9]

I wonder if he'll feel the need to stay if we're in the mix at the top come January...

he still eager to leave ,,, that is something i strongly believe .. no matter how many PR the club is doing.. if there is a same / better target (striker) in the market in Jan, i see Suarez leaving, but hope that wont cost us the title, if we are in very good hand by Jan