Topic: THE BEATLES - 8 Days/Week & GET BACK (page 2 onwards)

[Red Beret]

If John hadn't died, I'm almost certainly they'd have reformed in the 90s and absolutely wiped the floor with a lot of the crap that was doing the rounds back then.

[courty61]

Sounds a hell of a lot better than Free as a Bird or Real Love, just I personally think they are better songs.

Wonder if they ever thought of cleaning up John's voice on those 2 tracks with this modern technology?

[CortexVortex]

I have to admit that I wasn't expecting much for some reason but I really like it. Great song!

[John C]

I echo all the positivity about the new song, loved the short fild last night also.
Great stuff, makes me very nostalgic and lucky to have lived through an amazing era, albeit I was very very young..

[Ray K]

It's lovely and sad at the same time. I wasn't ready for the emotional punch of Paul counting in John's opening line.

Up the Beatles. Up the Reds

[tubby]

It's... alright?  Feels like the production is doing a lot of the heavy lifting.

[newterp]

It's... alright?  Feels like the production is doing a lot of the heavy lifting.

It's better than alright. It fits the Beatles.

Agreed that the production helps - but wasn't that the point?

[Boston always unofficial]

I was listening to Craig Charles this morning,thought the song was a bit meh,i'm not really a Beatles fan but they do have some nice pop tunes,this one wasn't.Right then where's the Gaza thread!!

[Sheer Magnetism]

Sounds like a Crowded House B-side. I'm glad people like it but c'mon, if it was released under another name no one would care.

[newterp]

Sounds like a Crowded House B-side. I'm glad people like it but c'mon, if it was released under another name no one would care.

but again - isn't that the point?

[Terry de Niro]

Sounds like a Crowded House B-side. I'm glad people like it but c'mon, if it was released under another name no one would care.

I've never heard a bad Crowded House B-side, so yeah, I'm in.

[TepidT2O]

My mum once swore blind to me that the crowded house song “weather with you” was a cover of a Beatles song. “I know the betakes, I grew up with them”.

When I pointed out that this was nonsense she didn’t talk to me for a day.  Ah well.

The song is  crap though sadly.

[Red Beret]

It sounds like a decent B-side track. I'm surprised at the number of people swooning over it, but then it IS the Beatles. It's not bad by any means, although it is rather melancholy.

Out of the "new" songs, I still prefer Real Love.

[Crosby Nick]

It sounds like a decent B-side track. I'm surprised at the number of people swooning over it, but then it IS the Beatles. It's not bad by any means, although it is rather melancholy.

Out of the "new" songs, I still prefer Real Love.

It was never going to be A Day In The Life of as it. But it’s a chance to hear another song. And yes, the production my have to carry bits because it’s not like they had a ton of Lennon’s vocal to work with or ask him to add a bit more.

It’s obviously not going to be better than their best songs. It might be a grower or it might fade a way a bit but it’s still nice to have it to listen to.

[Yorkykopite]

It sounds like a decent B-side track. I'm surprised at the number of people swooning over it, but then it IS the Beatles. It's not bad by any means, although it is rather melancholy.

Out of the "new" songs, I still prefer Real Love.

It's the technical achievement too and the ability it gives us to hear John's voice in isolation. I'm also excited and somehow consoled by the thought that the two surviving lads are still able to complete something that the two departees have worked on. A Beatles record will always be worth something.

[Ray K]

Peter Jackson-directed video

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[Terry de Niro]

Peter Jackson-directed video

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That is so magical.
Thankyou for posting it.

[meady1981]

I've loved hearing the song and the story behind it, but wow, that 'video' is bad (IMHO)
Looks like it was knocked up on an iphone on his lunch break.
All that technology and footage to play with and hes just badly cut out some old footage and slapped it on some new stuff like some GCSE art project.
What a waste of an opportunity.

[newterp]

Peter Jackson-directed video

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great....and so sad

[gazzalfc]

The technology is fascinating. Peter Jackson has absolutely nailed that kind of work in the past (They Shall Not Grow Old is outstanding) and he really is at the forefront of bringing to life old video

To be able to take an analogue cassette from the 70's and isolate the vocals to the extent that they are able to cobble together a Beatles song (and it is a Beatles song) is incredible

Prince has a vault of full music recordings and fully produced music videos that have never seen the light of day. It's a shame the Beatles don't have the same.

Then again how many times do you go to that well? To have a final record is great and the story is lovely and poinient. But that should be it

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

The technology is fascinating. Peter Jackson has absolutely nailed that kind of work (They Shall Not Grow Old is outstanding)

To be able to take an analogue cassette from the 70's and isolate the vocals to the extent that they are able to cobble together a Beatles song (and it is a Beatles song) is incredible

IFruity loops have just released a new A.I. Mastering and stem isolation program an its been in the works for a while. Ive seen a few other names mentioned over the last few years(I think they cost a mint) an im in the process of buying the fruity loops version as its meant to be brilliant. Ive got hundreds of stems over the years from bands like the beatles so the version they had mustve been a bit of a mess (im guessing cos its a tape)

[John C]

Peter Jackson-directed video

That is so magical.
Thankyou for posting it.

Fucking hell, what to say after watching that. The emotions.
Musically, only a cynic would say it's a shit song and it really shouldn't be a matter of having to 'get it' to understand it isn't.
There's so much to enjoy and reminisce about hearing John's voice, it'll be better described by others than I can ever do justice.
But the video is simply stupendous. The editing is masterful, it tells a long story in a few moments which encapsulates the genius and magnificence of the Beatles with an ending that brings that involuntary lump in your throat.

I haven't seen anything like that for a long time.

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

Think that new songs boss to be honest.

Even if it wasnt im just made up fans of them get to hear a new songs by lads they idolise.

Me and my Brother were sat with my Mum who knew 3 of them (They hung around the bar /cafe / Diner my Mums Family ran on Renshaw Street called The Griddle Bar in the late 50s and early 60s and John Paul an George were in there all the time. Ive even spoken to Sean aboot it) when she was a kid and she was a little sad from watching the 12 minute vid, as was I.

[Yorkykopite]

I've loved hearing the song and the story behind it, but wow, that 'video' is bad (IMHO)
Looks like it was knocked up on an iphone on his lunch break.
All that technology and footage to play with and hes just badly cut out some old footage and slapped it on some new stuff like some GCSE art project.
What a waste of an opportunity.

Little bit harsh there Meady lad!

I think it's much better than that. Technically I think Jackson's work is spot on. But I think there's a spiritual honesty about it as well, as there was - clearly - for Get Back. No one, NO ONE, has to hype the Beatles. It's not needed. They carry the load themselves through their music and their personalities. Peter J has taken some familiar material and cut it really well with the new stuff. As when John 'appeared' with Paul at Glasto this year, the effect is stunning.

Like some other posters above I'm now convinced that the Beatles would have had a reunion and gone on tour again if John (and George) had lived longer lives. I always used to poo-poo that idea.

[Terry de Niro]

Little bit harsh there Meady lad!

I think it's much better than that. Technically I think Jackson's work is spot on. But I think there's a spiritual honesty about it as well, as there was - clearly - for Get Back. No one, NO ONE, has to hype the Beatles. It's not needed. They carry the load themselves through their music and their personalities. Peter J has taken some familiar material and cut it really well with the new stuff. As when John 'appeared' with Paul at Glasto this year, the effect is stunning.

Like some other posters above I'm now convinced that the Beatles would have had a reunion and gone on tour again if John (and George) had lived longer lives. I always used to poo-poo that idea.

I reckon Live Aid in 85 would have been a certainty.

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

I reckon Live Aid in 85 would have been a certainty.

Even Oasis mightve had them as a support act. Imagine that? The biggest band in the world allowing the Beatles to support them

Wouldve been some show that eh

[Terry de Niro]

Even Oasis mightve had them as a support act. Imagine that? The biggest band in the world allowing the Beatles to support them

Wouldve been some show that eh

Follow that.   

[Trada]

Must admit the first time I heard a clip of the new song I thought it's really bad.

But listening to the full song with the video it all makes sense and I really like it

The Beatles "wish you were here"

[Trada]

I reckon Live Aid in 85 would have been a certainty.

I remember all the rumours at the time that the Beatles would play Live aid with Julian Lennon standing in for John

[meady1981]

Little bit harsh there Meady lad!

I think it's much better than that. Technically I think Jackson's work is spot on. But I think there's a spiritual honesty about it as well, as there was - clearly - for Get Back. No one, NO ONE, has to hype the Beatles. It's not needed. They carry the load themselves through their music and their personalities. Peter J has taken some familiar material and cut it really well with the new stuff. As when John 'appeared' with Paul at Glasto this year, the effect is stunning.

Like some other posters above I'm now convinced that the Beatles would have had a reunion and gone on tour again if John (and George) had lived longer lives. I always used to poo-poo that idea.

I get the idea, it just seemed really poorly executed. And the singing with John on his tour worked great. But wasn’t sold on The weird old AI mid journey John looking into the sky. Ringo and Paul quite clearly not in the same room together. The 60’s Beatles cut out with a spoon and plonked next to wrinkly old Paul. It just felt pretty poorly put together for the expertise of Peter Jackson. There was a fantastic montage of a beginning to end Beatles footage in the Anthology - I think set to In My Life. Something like just like that would have been great.

If you’re looking for another controversial opinion, I’m glad the Beatles split when they did and never had the chance to reform (obviously wish John wasn’t taken) - their legacy is untainted and unmatched. Could have gone bad with synths in the 80’s.

[Yorkykopite]

I get the idea, it just seemed really poorly executed. And the singing with John on his tour worked great. But wasn’t sold on The weird old AI mid journey John looking into the sky. Ringo and Paul quite clearly not in the same room together. The 60’s Beatles cut out with a spoon and plonked next to wrinkly old Paul. It just felt pretty poorly put together for the expertise of Peter Jackson. There was a fantastic montage of a beginning to end Beatles footage in the Anthology - I think set to In My Life. Something like just like that would have been great.

If you’re looking for another controversial opinion, I’m glad the Beatles split when they did and never had the chance to reform (obviously wish John wasn’t taken) - their legacy is untainted and unmatched. Could have gone bad with synths in the 80’s.

It could have done. It's also possible they might have gone like Dylan who - and I speak as a besotted Dylan fan - only once reached the heights of 1963-68 again. But, even so, there's still loads of good stuff there.

But stopping altogether? Imagine recording Abbey Road, and in particular the medley, and then calling it a day! It's like Liverpool FC packing up after Rome '77. 

[mattD]

Even Oasis mightve had them as a support act. Imagine that? The biggest band in the world allowing the Beatles to support them

Wouldve been some show that eh

Fishing for an absolute whopper, eh Capon?!

EDIT: Mind you, don't go on BlueLoon, that kind of opinion would be valid on that cesspit

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

Fishing for an absolute whopper, eh Capon?!

EDIT: Mind you, don't go on BlueLoon, that kind of opinion would be valid on that cesspit

[gjr1]

Even Oasis mightve had them as a support act. Imagine that? The biggest band in the world allowing the Beatles to support them

Wouldve been some show that eh

Funny stuff… love your work

[Red Beret]

It was never going to be A Day In The Life of as it. But it’s a chance to hear another song. And yes, the production my have to carry bits because it’s not like they had a ton of Lennon’s vocal to work with or ask him to add a bit more.

It’s obviously not going to be better than their best songs. It might be a grower or it might fade a way a bit but it’s still nice to have it to listen to.

to be honest, after listening to it a few times it has grown on me. I've heard one person describe it as "meta", whatever that might mean to them. It does have a somewhat dreamscape feel to it though. Perhaps it is just that the song hints at what might have been.

If the group had reformed, they could have justifiably spent 20 years just touring the world and knocking out the hits, but you just know they wouldn't have done that. They were pioneers in musical innovation, and we can only guess what they might have created with some 90s tech behind them.

[ToneLa]

Liked Now And Then, haven't seen the video yet(!) but sounds like I've got something to look forward to

Like it as a song, it feels like the Beatles to me, which is a win. Great hearing John again

IFruity loops have just released a new A.I. Mastering and stem isolation program an its been in the works for a while. Ive seen a few other names mentioned over the last few years(I think they cost a mint) an im in the process of buying the fruity loops version as its meant to be brilliant. Ive got hundreds of stems over the years from bands like the beatles so the version they had mustve been a bit of a mess (im guessing cos its a tape)

Eyyy I use FLStudio,  this sounds cool. Cheers for the heads up, will get the beta and give it a whirl

Have used various AI sites to make my own stems, with dodgy results. But this is a part that will no doubt evolve tons in the near future

The Beatles' recent use of it is, fittingly, best-in-class and I expect that to be on another level for some time to come

[Ray K]

Could have gone bad with synths in the 80’s.

McCartney II was great with synths. This one inspired John back into the studio ('fuck a pig, it's Paul!' when he heard Coming Up on the radio). They really could have pushed the medium in the studio in the 80s, seeing what Kraftwerk and Talking Heads were doing and saying 'right, that's good, how about this?'

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[Sir Capon of Debaser]

Liked Now And Then, haven't seen the video yet(!) but sounds like I've got something to look forward to

Like it as a song, it feels like the Beatles to me, which is a win. Great hearing John again

Eyyy I use FLStudio,  this sounds cool. Cheers for the heads up, will get the beta and give it a whirl

Have used various AI sites to make my own stems, with dodgy results. But this is a part that will no doubt evolve tons in the near future

The Beatles' recent use of it is, fittingly, best-in-class and I expect that to be on another level for some time to come

https://www.musicradar.com/news/5-best-stem-separation-software

[ToneLa]

https://www.musicradar.com/news/5-best-stem-separation-software

Had a read, cheers

FLStudio's is decent but more to come, this is their first iteration... I took a mono flac of CCR's Lodi and did a quick mix to make it "more stereo" - clicky

Since I'm wading in this world it'll be interesting to see what next week brings. I know people against the idea of using AI in music. But to me, it's a tool.

The Beatles use of it remains best in class

Music's one of those things. Asked me bassist mate, and he isn't interested in the process really, concentrating on the sound he makes. Fair, he is a musician and classes himself as such

I think a lot of people are going to be amazed when they hear some of these 2023 tracks, but also maybe there'll be people asking where the soul is if you go on about AI too much

I hope it proves its worth in these releases. I think it will. Tools like this help creativity, rather than bind it.

As with any art the question is always intent

I just wanna luxuriate in some Beatles. Why not? It'll still speak to me

The Beatles' use of AI is benevolent

[Terry de Niro]

Had a read, cheers

FLStudio's is decent but more to come, this is their first iteration... I took a mono flac of CCR's Lodi and did a quick mix to make it "more stereo" - clicky

Since I'm wading in this world it'll be interesting to see what next week brings. I know people against the idea of using AI in music. But to me, it's a tool.

The Beatles use of it remains best in class

Music's one of those things. Asked me bassist mate, and he isn't interested in the process really, concentrating on the sound he makes. Fair, he is a musician and classes himself as such

I think a lot of people are going to be amazed when they hear some of these 2023 tracks, but also maybe there'll be people asking where the soul is if you go on about AI too much

I hope it proves its worth in these releases. I think it will. Tools like this help creativity, rather than bind it.

As with any art the question is always intent

I just wanna luxuriate in some Beatles. Why not? It'll still speak to me

The Beatles' use of AI is benevolent

John would have loved the idea of AI.
He was always asking George Martin to make his voice sound different. "Tomorrow Never Knows"