Author Topic: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership (Read 348223 times)

scatman · « **Reply #1920 on:** March 16, 2012, 09:07:48 am »

Well we need Coates height against Stoke, don't want good old Jamie wrapping his arms around Walters again like he wants to take him doggystyle

smig · « **Reply #1921 on:** March 16, 2012, 09:54:01 am »

Coates has played against these before, and did a good job bar the error for their goal. It was a cruel lesson but I'm sure it's helped stand him in good stead in the long run.

The 5th Benitle · « **Reply #1922 on:** March 16, 2012, 10:46:53 pm »

Quote from: woof on March 16, 2012, 02:19:20 am

Agreed. With Agger being injury prone, we need a new partner for Skrtel who has been excellent this season.

Is this a joke? Agger has played most games this season!

smig · « **Reply #1923 on:** March 17, 2012, 02:03:59 am »

Quote from: The 5th Benitle on March 16, 2012, 10:46:53 pm

Is this a joke? Agger has played most games this season!

He has, but he's still occasionally prone to picking up a knock. He seems to have overcome most of his injury problems over the past few months though which is obviously great for us.

Lucas DuoFlush · « **Reply #1924 on:** March 17, 2012, 02:17:25 am »

Love Skrtel this season. Absolute beast.

Still love Agger more though. He's one of my all time favourites along with Gerrard, Lucas, Hyppia and Mcmanaman.

PIPA23 · « **Reply #1925 on:** March 17, 2012, 02:27:06 am »

talking about coates, isn´t it better to create a Liverpool DEFENCE thread?

Indian Scouser · « **Reply #1926 on:** March 17, 2012, 03:02:28 am »

Quote from: PIPA23 on March 17, 2012, 02:27:06 am

talking about coates, isn´t it better to create a Liverpool DEFENCE thread?

Not such a great idea as it'll just switch between the 'Carra is shite' and 'Kelly is better than Johnson' endless debates. We already do that in the Coates and Kelly threads. Let's have a thread where we talk about our two warriors at the back without bringing all that shite in.

Sangria · « **Reply #1927 on:** March 17, 2012, 03:35:31 am »

Quote from: smig on March 17, 2012, 02:03:59 am

He has, but he's still occasionally prone to picking up a knock. He seems to have overcome most of his injury problems over the past few months though which is obviously great for us.

I don't think he's any more prone to picking up injuries than most other players. He does take a tremendously long time to recover from them though, which was why it was important to have someone who can come in for long periods at a time, and why Coates will get plenty of game time if we don't turn back to Carragher. If Agger is out at any time, assume he'll be unavailable for at least a month. But when he's recovered, assume he'll be available like any other player.

Armand9 · « **Reply #1928 on:** March 17, 2012, 04:35:15 am »

Quote from: Quintet on March 14, 2012, 12:38:41 pm

Yeah its going to be Kompany and Smalling or Jones. Just to show their manc love. Infact I bet this is the team

Hart
Walker Smalling Kompany Evra (Just because hes a 'victim')
Silva Modric Parker Bale
Rooney Van persie

Kompany should be in there - he's been the best CB in the league (altho his injuries are starting to eat into that) but I can't see another CB who's been better than Skrtel this season.

If evra gets in there it's defo a fix cos even his own fans think he's had a poor season defensively and they should be looking to upgrade.

Hart and RVP are nailed on, I'd have to think about the others, some obvious names in there have been brilliant then under par, not so cut and dried. (btw I do realise these aren't your choices, but what you expect to happen)

dazzler79 · « **Reply #1929 on:** March 17, 2012, 04:42:23 am »

Quote from: RichardM on March 14, 2012, 12:34:31 pm

Been better than Agger this season.

On the point about him not making the PFA Team, you're right. It'll be Evans and Kompany or something. But hey, he's been the best CB in the league near enough the entire season yet you hear nothing about it.

Playing alongside Agger for an extended number of games has brought out the best in Skrtel. Agger's calming influence definitely one of the reasons for his elevated confidence level and subsequent performances.

JayEvans · « **Reply #1930 on:** March 17, 2012, 12:21:57 pm »

Is agger still injured?

Dirk18Kuyt · « **Reply #1931 on:** March 17, 2012, 12:27:21 pm »

I think Coates for this one.

Carra to come on for Skrtel to give the guy a rest.

Gazza-LFC · « **Reply #1932 on:** March 18, 2012, 05:56:00 pm »

Skrtel is a colossus impecable once again.

Tomo! · « **Reply #1933 on:** March 18, 2012, 05:56:55 pm »

Quote from: Gazza-LFC on March 18, 2012, 05:56:00 pm

Skrtel is a colossus impecable once again.

our best player this season

beatboy · « **Reply #1934 on:** March 18, 2012, 06:18:56 pm »

Quote from: Tomo! on March 18, 2012, 05:56:55 pm

our best player this season

of that there is no doubt

Melbred · « **Reply #1935 on:** March 18, 2012, 06:20:52 pm »

The lad just keeps on performing. He's got to be the best defender in the league currently.

iiqae · « **Reply #1936 on:** March 18, 2012, 08:12:08 pm »

i'll never understand why carra hoofs as much as he does because when he does pass it along the ground, he is capable of coming up with some brilliant stuff into the frontline. granted, not the friendliest passes to receive into feet, but very effective nonetheless.

was quite solid today. unfortunate that it is often overlooked or stipulated by our supporters, but i suppose it is to be expected at this point.

Evans · « **Reply #1937 on:** March 18, 2012, 08:20:24 pm »

Quote from: Melbred on March 18, 2012, 06:20:52 pm

The lad just keeps on performing. He's got to be the best defender in the league currently.

Indeed. Never a bad game, just pure quality all the way.

SamAteTheRedAcid · « **Reply #1938 on:** March 18, 2012, 08:23:42 pm »

Skrtel is in the form of his life, has been an absolute beast today, snuffed Stoke out so effectively today, and has been our most consistent performer all season.

NZ Red · « **Reply #1939 on:** March 18, 2012, 08:32:08 pm »

Have to admit, a couple of seasons ago I never thought he'd be able to become so good. Love him, he's an absolute beast now and has been incredible for us this season

hide5seek · « **Reply #1940 on:** March 18, 2012, 08:33:16 pm »

Skrtel for captain?

trembles97 · « **Reply #1941 on:** March 18, 2012, 08:34:51 pm »

Skrtel made so many key tackles today, and he always looks so assured in powerful whenever he makes his move. Truly an unbelievable defender, definitely my MOTM today.

richiedouglas · « **Reply #1942 on:** March 18, 2012, 08:46:56 pm »

Quote from: iiqae on March 18, 2012, 08:12:08 pm

i'll never understand why carra hoofs as much as he does because when he does pass it along the ground, he is capable of coming up with some brilliant stuff into the frontline. granted, not the friendliest passes to receive into feet, but very effective nonetheless.

was quite solid today. unfortunate that it is often overlooked or stipulated by our supporters, but i suppose it is to be expected at this point.

In the pre-match 4-a-side games carra's close control and passing are good. It's a very british thing to do in belting the ball out.

Cpt_Reina · « **Reply #1943 on:** March 18, 2012, 08:49:13 pm »

There's been absolutely nothing wrong with Carra's last two performances.

But I still wouldnt pick him against QPR. That's a game that Coates needs to be playing.

hide5seek · « **Reply #1944 on:** March 18, 2012, 08:54:54 pm »

Quote from: Cpt_Reina on March 18, 2012, 08:49:13 pm

There's been absolutely nothing wrong with Carra's last two performances.

But I still wouldnt pick him against QPR. That's a game that Coates needs to be playing.

Exactly, there going down and it'll be good for Coates to get some minutes.

TheVeg · « **Reply #1945 on:** March 21, 2012, 10:10:58 pm »

the sooner this partnership is back, the better

steveeastend · « **Reply #1946 on:** March 21, 2012, 10:14:04 pm »

Quote from: TheVeg on March 21, 2012, 10:10:58 pm

the sooner this partnership is back, the better

Since Agger is injured we are back to the way we defended at the beginning of the season.

EmmaWatson · « **Reply #1947 on:** March 21, 2012, 10:15:37 pm »

Quote from: Cpt_Reina on March 18, 2012, 08:49:13 pm

There's been absolutely nothing wrong with Carra's last two performances.

But I still wouldnt pick him against QPR. That's a game that Coates needs to be playing.

Agreed. Our defence has been disastrous since Agger went out of the back four and Carra fill in

dr.dracco · « **Reply #1948 on:** March 21, 2012, 10:17:09 pm »

Quote from: steveeastend on March 21, 2012, 10:14:04 pm

Since Agger is injured we are back to the way we defended at the beginning of the season.

This is it. After one bad performance from defence it is because of Agger missing.

I expect some lads to come here in a while and demand that Skrtel is shit and should be sold. The lad could have 5 shockers in a row and still would be our most consistent plazer of the season by a mile.

And Jamie is playing very good since he is back.

SkinHimHesShite · « **Reply #1949 on:** March 21, 2012, 10:20:00 pm »

we never missed alonso as much when agger played. even after we sold alonso, under rafa if danny was fit we did ok, unfortunately he was always injured and carragher played hoof ball all game. we need to replace the likes of JC and promote seb coates. skrtel, agger, coates, kelly should be our 4 CBs.

TheVeg · « **Reply #1950 on:** March 21, 2012, 10:20:36 pm »

Quote from: dr.dracco on March 21, 2012, 10:17:09 pm

This is it. After one bad performance from defence it is because of Agger missing.

I expect some lads to come here in a while and demand that Skrtel is shit and should be sold. The lad could have 5 shockers in a row and still would be our most consistent plazer of the season by a mile.

And Jamie is playing very good since he is back.

if the defense was so good today, please explain how we managed to concede 3 goals in 15 minutes to a team that will be playing in the championship next season?

Slinky · « **Reply #1951 on:** March 21, 2012, 10:21:37 pm »

When's Agger due back?

babraham · « **Reply #1952 on:** March 21, 2012, 10:22:35 pm »

Well Skrtel was due a mistake or two. He's been player of the season. It happens...

steveeastend · « **Reply #1953 on:** March 21, 2012, 10:28:54 pm »

Quote from: dr.dracco on March 21, 2012, 10:17:09 pm

This is it. After one bad performance from defence it is because of Agger missing.

I expect some lads to come here in a while and demand that Skrtel is shit and should be sold. The lad could have 5 shockers in a row and still would be our most consistent plazer of the season by a mile.

And Jamie is playing very good since he is back.

If you cannot see the difference since Agger is injured than at least do yourself a favour and compare the outcome in terms of how many goals we conceided with and without Agger. You will be amazed.

penga · « **Reply #1954 on:** March 21, 2012, 10:31:02 pm »

He just got caught out on the cross, it was played over him to the advantage side of Cisse.

For the 3rd he headed the ball well clear, it came back past him and Enrique slipped, wasn't Skrtel's fault.

G1 Jockey 4(betfair) · « **Reply #1955 on:** March 21, 2012, 10:31:37 pm »

tbf the cardiff 1st goal was as bad as anything ive seen this season and that was shocking defending from agger.

Bob Loblaw · « **Reply #1956 on:** March 21, 2012, 10:57:15 pm »

The second is just one of those where there's not really a whole lot you can do once the flight of the ball and the timing of the jump is just about perfect. The problem was no-one making much of an effort to stop the cross, something that's been a problem all season imo. The fullbacks are never in a rush to get tight in those situations, don't understand it. I know you don't want to sell yourself either, but at least get close enough to get a block in. Ask yourself how often we get the same time to put in crosses from out wide?

redmark · « **Reply #1957 on:** March 22, 2012, 12:01:57 am »

Quote from: Bob Loblaw on March 21, 2012, 10:57:15 pm

The second is just one of those where there's not really a whole lot you can do once the flight of the ball and the timing of the jump is just about perfect. The problem was no-one making much of an effort to stop the cross, something that's been a problem all season imo. The fullbacks are never in a rush to get tight in those situations, don't understand it. I know you don't want to sell yourself either, but at least get close enough to get a block in. Ask yourself how often we get the same time to put in crosses from out wide?

Skrtel didn't jump. He was in the right position, he just didn't jump. Mistake. The fullback didn't prevent the cross, because the fullback was Carragher and he was moving to centre back, his natural position. Coates actually spotted that and tried to cover right back, but too late.

Skrtel was (partly) at fault for the third, too. Was in a position to head the ball clear and ducked out of it - check Enrique's glance back at him asking "what the fuck?".

Still my player of the season, but two mistakes today.

redmark · « **Reply #1958 on:** March 22, 2012, 12:02:56 am »

Quote from: penga on March 21, 2012, 10:31:02 pm

He just got caught out on the cross, it was played over him to the advantage side of Cisse.

For the 3rd he headed the ball well clear, it came back past him and Enrique slipped, wasn't Skrtel's fault.

Watch the replay, Skrtel actually starts going for the ball and ducks away from it.

Bob Loblaw · « **Reply #1959 on:** March 22, 2012, 12:09:41 am »

Quote from: redmark on March 22, 2012, 12:01:57 am

Skrtel was (partly) at fault for the third, too. Was in a position to head the ball clear and ducked out of it - check Enrique's glance back at him asking "what the fuck?".

Enrique giving someone stick for ducking out of a header? HA! Bloody hilarious.

On the second goal, he takes a slight mistep just as the ball is delivered and is then back-peddling a bit and Cisse has timed it perfectly, no many centre-backs are getting to that one.