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Re: Raheem Shaquille Sterling
« Reply #4320 on: June 17, 2014, 08:19:13 pm »
That's the thing will all young players, no matter how talented (well, unless they're Messi and freakshows by the time they're 20), they'll have marked peaks and troughs in form. Within the space of 6 months last season, Sterling went from looking like a player who needed a loan in the Championship to looking every bit a deserving starter in arguably the best attacking side in the division, with hardly any under 20 player near his standard of performances.

If this kid can go onto become as consistently top class as Marco Reus is, it'd be amazing. Sterling can definitely become that level of player, IE, one of the best in the world in his position. Beyond Reus? Its tough to say. At some point in the next year or two, he'll need to make another massive jump like he made last year. Reus's don't grow on trees you know, if he exceeds that level in a few years, he could be Ballon D'or material. He might very well be  :D . To the older reds, has there been this much excitment about a young prospect at the club since Gerrard ?

Also, can we sign Reus? :lickin

I don't think there's such a huge jump required to reach the level of Reus. It's just about increasing the longevity of this great spell he's having and doing it on the biggest stage.

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Re: Raheem Shaquille Sterling
« Reply #4321 on: June 17, 2014, 08:24:57 pm »
My brother who's a die hard Manc:

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Re: Raheem Shaquille Sterling
« Reply #4322 on: June 17, 2014, 09:04:08 pm »
And I don't see the obsession with comparing him to Januzaj, different type players the only thing in common in their age and hype.

Jizzy's better innit.
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Re: Raheem Shaquille Sterling
« Reply #4323 on: June 17, 2014, 09:05:13 pm »
Just seen this: https://twitter.com/FootballFunnys/status/478959534740754433/photo/1

Dunno if it's a real quote, though.
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Re: Raheem Shaquille Sterling
« Reply #4324 on: June 17, 2014, 11:15:02 pm »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1254287/Liverpool-sign-England-starlet-Raheem-Sterling-QPR.html

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Re: Raheem Shaquille Sterling
« Reply #4325 on: June 18, 2014, 02:38:19 am »
this is brilliant, from the times

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Raheem Sterling may have the hopes of a nation on his slender shoulders but according to his big sister he is not the best footballer in his family.

“You should see his six-year-old brother Kingston,” Lakima Sterling said. “He can do keepy-ups and everything. He is better than Sterling was at that age. Kingston is the next Messi.”

Not, however, that Ms Sterling knows a lot about football. She was unaware that her 19-year-old brother is due to play his second World Cup game tomorrow following his heroics against Italy on Saturday.

“I am not bothered about football,” Ms Sterling, 23, confessed. “I will watch him if he’s on but I am just into make-up and stuff. I prefer Instagram.”

In her modest London home, perched next to the railway tracks and where three generations of Sterlings live, Ms Sterling spoke of her pride, and bafflement, at her “little brother’s” status as England’s great footballing hope.

Like many of England’s footballing prodigies life has not always been easy for Sterling.

He had an absent father, later shot dead in the family’s native home in Jamaica, and was uprooted to England when he was five years old. In Britain his mother Nadine worked hard to earn money and instil good values in her children, but Sterling had a chequered school career and later, when his genius with a football brought him the baubles of success, a couple of brushes with the law.

His family resent the focus there has been on his off-pitch behaviour. He was charged twice with assault — one case was dropped and he was cleared in the other — and he fathered a child at the age of 16. He has a handful of GCSEs and his former teachers purr about his attitude. Ms Sterling says he dotes upon his daughter Melody Rose. In interviews the consensus is that he comes across as level-headed and sensible.

“I do not know if all this negative stuff about him is because he is a black guy trying to make his way in life,” Ms Sterling said. “Maybe it is a class thing. I don’t know. But it makes him stronger. I couldn’t take it but he is not bothered. The papers keep saying that if he wasn’t a footballer he would have ended up dead or in jail. What is all that about?”At the age of ten, Sterling was winning matches single-handedly, he joined Queens Park Rangers as a schoolboy and Liverpool in 2010, aged 15, for a remarkable £600,000.

Two years later he made his debut for England and now stands on the threshold of an acclaim reached by very few.

Since England’s World Cup victory in 1966, a handful of the country’s players have truly shone on the World Cup stage. Sterling’s mesmerising performance during England’s defeat against Italy on Saturday have, however, brought him to the brink of stardom.

In Ms Sterling’s home, where she lives with her mother, her younger siblings Kimberley, 13, and Kingston, six, and her own one-year-old daughter Kymiah-Mae, a couple of Sterling’s England training bags are dumped next to newspaper cuttings recording his footballing exploits and the darker chapters in the family’s history. Ms Sterling said she was confident that her brother could handle the expectation.

“He is so mature for his age. He is not boasty. My Mum sets a good example. If he gets a little time out from Liverpool and comes here my Mum presses his trousers and shirt and says ‘right you are coming to church’,” she said.

There is also the home cooking. “He loves his Jamaican food.”

Ms Sterling said she was proud. “He is an awesome kid,” she said. “I love him to bits. I can’t believe that everybody is talking about my brother. I never thought that something like this would happen to people coming from our background. He has been saying since he was five that he wants to go to the World Cup. but I am that dopey I did not know about it. I am so pleased though that his dreams are coming through.”

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/international/article4122310.ece

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Re: Raheem Shaquille Sterling
« Reply #4326 on: June 18, 2014, 07:25:15 am »
Kid's growing on me big time.
Glad he's at Liverpool.

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Re: Raheem Shaquille Sterling
« Reply #4327 on: June 18, 2014, 10:35:28 am »
Kid's growing on me big time.
Glad he's at Liverpool.

He's awesome. Simple as that.
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Re: Raheem Shaquille Sterling
« Reply #4328 on: June 18, 2014, 10:51:45 am »
Mum’s the word for Raheem Sterling, the new symbol of England

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Re: Raheem Shaquille Sterling
« Reply #4329 on: June 18, 2014, 12:19:14 pm »
The next next Aaron Lennon innit.
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Re: Raheem Shaquille Sterling
« Reply #4330 on: June 18, 2014, 12:42:48 pm »
Jesus..."England's Great Hope," "The New Symbol of England." I guess it's a good thing we've spent 5 years combatting hype at every turn, huh? He might have a tiny shot at not letting it go to his head now.

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Loved this bit, that slalom is sooo John Barnes. Look how close the ball remains to his feet.

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Re: Raheem Shaquille Sterling
« Reply #4333 on: June 18, 2014, 01:19:30 pm »

Pirlo was afraid to go near him, didn't wanna ruin his ice cool image.

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Re: Raheem Shaquille Sterling
« Reply #4334 on: June 18, 2014, 01:38:39 pm »
Don't know about that most people I spoke to seem to love him... and why not? He's an exciting player who works hard for the team.

I'm not sure, anyone I've spoken to doesn't seem to rate him as highly.
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Re: Raheem Shaquille Sterling
« Reply #4335 on: June 18, 2014, 01:39:31 pm »
Jesus..."England's Great Hope," "The New Symbol of England." I guess it's a good thing we've spent 5 years combatting hype at every turn, huh? He might have a tiny shot at not letting it go to his head now.

The hype was always coming, its something he's just going to have to deal with. You dont have a player as talented as Sterling and not have a certain amount of pressure and attention thrown at them.

The best players enjoy it, Suarez, Gerrard, Ronaldo. They love that pressure to perform, it elevates them.

If we beleive that Sterling can one day stand with them, or get as close as possible, its up to him to either take to it or not, as the case may be. But he can't avoid it, he's too good.

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Re: Raheem Shaquille Sterling
« Reply #4336 on: June 18, 2014, 01:39:53 pm »
My brother who's a die hard Manc:

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High praise.
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Re: Raheem Shaquille Sterling
« Reply #4337 on: June 18, 2014, 01:46:34 pm »
Dare I say it but the way he effortlessly controls the ball, evades challenges and dribbles past players reminds me of less-developed Messi. Might sound bonkers but he's 19 and still makes it look easy at a world cup, I've been quietly worried about how the likes of Henderson, Sterling and Sturridge would perform on the highest stage, as they haven't even had any champions league experience with us, but they've all performed well to varying degrees.

Really hope Sterling doesn't get shunted out to the wing against Cost Rica, want to see him in number 10 position in full flow.

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Re: Raheem Shaquille Sterling
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Re: Raheem Shaquille Sterling
« Reply #4339 on: June 18, 2014, 01:56:25 pm »
I don't see the Reus comparison. Reus and Sterling are quite different in their likening to eachother. Reus has a different build and skill-set to Sterling. He's taller and isn't super quick like Sterling. Reus relys more on his amazing balance and quick change of direction, when beating a player.

Hazard would be a more alike comparison for Sterling. Both small, nimble and possess great speed.

He should aim to reach his level in a few seasons time.

Almost all players rely on those things for beating a player :D
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Re: Raheem Shaquille Sterling
« Reply #4340 on: June 18, 2014, 01:58:26 pm »
Pirlo was afraid to go near him, didn't wanna ruin his ice cool image.
Yeah, the same happened right before he put the through ball to Rooney for Studge's goal!

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« Reply #4341 on: June 18, 2014, 02:46:49 pm »
Yeah, the same happened right before he put the through ball to Rooney for Studge's goal!

It did.

It says a lot about Sterling's awareness. Every time he got the ball anywhere near Pirlo he knew he could turn and run at the Italian defence. Pirlo literally didn't move.
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Re: Raheem Shaquille Sterling
« Reply #4342 on: June 18, 2014, 02:54:34 pm »
It did.

It says a lot about Sterling's awareness. Every time he got the ball anywhere near Pirlo he knew he could turn and run at the Italian defence. Pirlo literally didn't move.
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« Reply #4343 on: June 18, 2014, 03:00:18 pm »
Literally? :D

Look at him. He breathed I guess, but I wouldn't call that movement.
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Re: Raheem Shaquille Sterling
« Reply #4344 on: June 18, 2014, 03:34:35 pm »
Ugh - looks like Rooooooooooney will get his move back to the 10 spot, and Raheem shifted to the wing.

He of course showing amazing maturity to say he is happy to switch.

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« Reply #4345 on: June 18, 2014, 03:41:04 pm »
Ugh - looks like Rooooooooooney will get his move back to the 10 spot, and Raheem shifted to the wing.

He of course showing amazing maturity to say he is happy to switch.

That's it really, he's being a good team-mate for the media, but I hope it doesn't have any bearing on his position, as I think we all want to see how he does as a number 10 at the highest level.

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Re: Raheem Shaquille Sterling
« Reply #4346 on: June 18, 2014, 07:52:57 pm »
That's it really, he's being a good team-mate for the media, but I hope it doesn't have any bearing on his position, as I think we all want to see how he does as a number 10 at the highest level.

I much prefer Sterling on the wing, getting defenders 1v1 and attacking them. Think he is much more effective and needs to improve even more there before moving inside like Bale, Messi, Ronaldo and others.

For now, I believe he should stick to the wide positions.
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« Reply #4347 on: June 18, 2014, 07:58:39 pm »
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Re: Raheem Shaquille Sterling
« Reply #4348 on: June 18, 2014, 08:25:08 pm »
I much prefer Sterling on the wing, getting defenders 1v1 and attacking them. Think he is much more effective and needs to improve even more there before moving inside like Bale, Messi, Ronaldo and others.

For now, I believe he should stick to the wide positions.
Agreed. I'm not sure why everyone is so keen to see him inside. It's not like it stunts his performances or his effectiveness being out wide.
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« Reply #4349 on: June 18, 2014, 08:31:37 pm »
Agreed. I'm not sure why everyone is so keen to see him inside. It's not like it stunts his performances or his effectiveness being out wide.

Well we don't cross the ball, so why would we put one of our best dribblers out there?
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« Reply #4350 on: June 18, 2014, 09:05:32 pm »
Well we don't cross the ball, so why would we put one of our best dribblers out there?
Surely if you play wide in a front three you're not expected to just put crosses in? Rodgers has always said about our wide forwards getting between the frame of the goal and scoring, not getting chalk on their boots.

I like Sterling wide too. I think it gives him more opportunity to use his pace to get behind a defence. 
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« Reply #4351 on: June 18, 2014, 09:35:56 pm »
Surely if you play wide in a front three you're not expected to just put crosses in? Rodgers has always said about our wide forwards getting between the frame of the goal and scoring, not getting chalk on their boots.

I like Sterling wide too. I think it gives him more opportunity to use his pace to get behind a defence.

If you play wide in a front three, that's usually your job. Coming in off the wing onto your strong foot for shots is not really a winger's position, it's an inside forward. So he ends up in the #10 position anyway, it's just that he starts from wide of centre. But not out on the wing. His 1v1 skills are much better served in the middle of the field than out wide - it puts more pressure on the opposition defence to have to deal with a dribbler centrally, than out wide where they can isolate him
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Re: Raheem Shaquille Sterling
« Reply #4352 on: June 18, 2014, 11:08:08 pm »
All this talk of positions, I remember Rodgers, while praising Sterling's versatility, with a (possibly throwaway) comment that Sterling could play on the side of a diamond. Thoughts?

Really think he could play just about anywhere with the physicality, intelligence, delivery and touch he's shown. Incredible progression.

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Re: Raheem Shaquille Sterling
« Reply #4353 on: June 18, 2014, 11:09:57 pm »
All this talk of positions, I remember Rodgers, while praising Sterling's versatility, with a (possibly throwaway) comment that Sterling could play on the side of a diamond. Thoughts?

Really think he could play just about anywhere with the physicality, intelligence, delivery and touch he's shown. Incredible progression.

Could play anywhere.


Very fortunate that we have two players in Coutinho and Sterling that give us numerous options.

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« Reply #4354 on: June 18, 2014, 11:41:43 pm »
Can't remember who said it, but I think his versatility is proven by the fact that I can 100% agree with the statement that when he was younger he could have been coached into a right-footed Ashley Cole. Of course, his attacking nous is 2nd to none and I wouldn't want to think about it now! But the kid has it all.

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« Reply #4355 on: June 18, 2014, 11:44:27 pm »
Can't remember who said it, but I think his versatility is proven by the fact that I can 100% agree with the statement that when he was younger he could have been coached into a right-footed Ashley Cole. Of course, his attacking nous is 2nd to none and I wouldn't want to think about it now! But the kid has it all.

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Re: Raheem Shaquille Sterling
« Reply #4356 on: June 18, 2014, 11:51:31 pm »
Could play anywhere.


Very fortunate that we have two players in Coutinho and Sterling that give us numerous options.

It would be a real sign of intent from the Club if we went and secured a third (being Lallana, most likely).

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Re: Raheem Shaquille Sterling
« Reply #4357 on: June 19, 2014, 12:51:55 am »
All this talk of positions, I remember Rodgers, while praising Sterling's versatility, with a (possibly throwaway) comment that Sterling could play on the side of a diamond. Thoughts?

Really think he could play just about anywhere with the physicality, intelligence, delivery and touch he's shown. Incredible progression.

He definitely could and he'd do as good a job at it as, say, Jack Wilshere, once his passing range and ball retention develops more. Right now he sometimes struggles with the power on some of the longer passes (amongst other things) but it's definitely developing, and has done so all season. Cracking 40 yard pass for Henderson's goal at Spurs, obviously the through ball against Swansea, for England against Italy. There was a wonderfully weighted pass for a Joe Cole goal against West Ham last year. He'd need to be taught how to play the position and I'd have question marks over his strength in the role (he's a very tough little bugger, especially against fullbacks his own size but it could be a different scenario against your Toures, Dembeles and Fellainis). Not sure if he has the engine or tackling skills of a Henderson or an Allen either.

Can even see him doing a Barnes and moving into CM/CDM when he's older and more rugged and experienced, and as already said he's a great fullback - but for now lets just watch him progress in the attacking role that he's in . As he physically matures, his goalscoring improves and he starts seeing a few more possibilities in the final third, we'll see the making of one of the finest, most versatile attacking players in the world. I was crying when RAWK hipsters suggested his long term position is RB.

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Re: Raheem Shaquille Sterling
« Reply #4358 on: June 19, 2014, 02:42:30 am »
If you play wide in a front three, that's usually your job. Coming in off the wing onto your strong foot for shots is not really a winger's position, it's an inside forward. So he ends up in the #10 position anyway, it's just that he starts from wide of centre. But not out on the wing. His 1v1 skills are much better served in the middle of the field than out wide - it puts more pressure on the opposition defence to have to deal with a dribbler centrally, than out wide where they can isolate him

Also, generally speaking, full backs are usually quite agile themselves meaning they are better suited to playing against someone like raheem. Most DM's are anything but agile and when he turns him will just bring him down or let him run at their defence. You get that scenario happening a few times per game and your opponents will either be leaking goals or playing with 10 men.

We've spent the best part of a year watching how dangerous the likes of Coutinho and Sterling are when starting centrally. Intercepting, breaking up play and launching through balls right away to our attack. Or receiving the ball and turning the midfield running at the defence. We've also seen Juan Mata & Kagawa give perfect demonstrations of how to be an ineffective playmaker starting out wide.

If you had to compare, tactically, Roy Hodgson to one of Moyes or Rodgers, who would you go with? How you answer that should give you some idea whether Sterling would be better starting centrally or out wide for England.
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Re: Raheem Shaquille Sterling
« Reply #4359 on: June 19, 2014, 02:52:06 am »
He definitely could and he'd do as good a job at it as, say, Jack Wilshere, once his passing range and ball retention develops more. Right now he sometimes struggles with the power on some of the longer passes (amongst other things) but it's definitely developing, and has done so all season. Cracking 40 yard pass for Henderson's goal at Spurs, obviously the through ball against Swansea, for England against Italy. There was a wonderfully weighted pass for a Joe Cole goal against West Ham last year. He'd need to be taught how to play the position and I'd have question marks over his strength in the role (he's a very tough little bugger, especially against fullbacks his own size but it could be a different scenario against your Toures, Dembeles and Fellainis). Not sure if he has the engine or tackling skills of a Henderson or an Allen either.

Can even see him doing a Barnes and moving into CM/CDM when he's older and more rugged and experienced, and as already said he's a great fullback - but for now lets just watch him progress in the attacking role that he's in . As he physically matures, his goalscoring improves and he starts seeing a few more possibilities in the final third, we'll see the making of one of the finest, most versatile attacking players in the world. I was crying when RAWK hipsters suggested his long term position is RB.

The point being made at the time was that in world football there are very few top quality attacking full backs. Even more so at RB than LB. There aren't many U23 versions of Dani Alves out there at his level. Therefore making on of them in-house would be a much easier task than signing one. As it looks like none of Kelly, Wisdom or McLaughlin will ever reach those heights people were thinking outside the box.

Pretty sure it was in a round table thread where that particular idea/conversation began. Labelling those who were doing so as "hipsters" is unnecessarily insulting and pathetic IMHO.
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