Topic: Joe Cole

[mat106]

He apparently came on as a substitute today.

In other words we played with 10. Why not put Assaidi?

[Bob Loblaw]

Not his fault he's a fat useless mess.....well, maybe it is, it's not his fault he's getting picked though.

[Fromola]

Cole ahead of Suso when we need to create something? Seriously? Fuck right off.

Did he even get near the ball?

[ziggyy]

Great player, lots of potential and BR will definitely be the one to finally unlock his talents...

Just give him and Drowning more games, they'll surprise us one day...

[buzzing]

Not sure why Assaidi gets overlooked in the PL, however, Cole did well in midweek and BR rewarded him with game time as a result..having said that once again it proves he's not up to this level of footy anymore

[scouse29]

Great player, lots of potential and BR will definitely be the one to finally unlock his talents...

Just give him and Drowning more games, they'll surprise us one day...

Potential? He is 31 not 18.

As for giving downing more games, he had a whole season to impress..... Still waitin.

[Mykez]

In other words we played with 10. Why not put Assaidi?

Didn't even make the bench mate. Have no idea why...

[astowell1]

Knew what we were going to get when he came on, that being very little.

Should have been Suso, Sahin or Assaidi but there you go.

[vicar]

Lets hope it was a shop window based selection.

[Fromola]

Not sure why Assaidi gets overlooked in the PL, however, Cole did well in midweek and BR rewarded him with game time as a result..having said that once again it proves he's not up to this level of footy anymore

Cole had a decent game Thursday, but I still thought Suso played better overall. Rodgers is having a laugh bringing Cole on ahead of Suso when we need some creativity.

Cole is not an impact sub.

[KiNki]

In other words we played with 10. Why not put Assaidi?

perhaps because last thur when we really needed assaidi to tackle, play the ball, he did neither and yb equalised as a result.  Joe cole for the few minutes he was on the pitch, did actually put his foot in once, plus more minutes to shop window himself for jan.   Which might enable us to fund a new signing that can both attack and stick his foot in.

I personally would have switched raheem and brought suso onto the left.  Perhaps he was tired.

[Drinks Sangria]

Knew what we were going to get when he came on, that being very little.

Should have been Suso, Sahin or Assaidi but there you go.

Bit harsh I feel. He didn't have that much time to impact on the game and when he had a chance to, he delivered and excellent ball into Swansea's box. I'm with you on the subs who should have come on, but Cole did ok when he came on.

[steveeastend]

This "shopping window" argument is overrated. Do the people expect other managers to be stupid and blind? Everybody involved in professional football knows that Joe Cole is finished.

Rodgers brought him on cause Cole had a decent game on thursday, that´s all. He hoped he could make an impact, but Joe decided to have a walk on the pitch and enjoy the atmosphere rather than giving it all.

[b_joseph]

Rodgers brought him on cause Cole had a decent game on thursday, that´s all. He hoped he could make an impact, but Joe decided to have a walk on the pitch and enjoy the atmosphere rather than giving it all.

I think its a little unfair to say that he didnt give his all. He just isnt anywhere near to the athlete he was and if you cant move quickly over 5 yards or change direction quickly, you're going to look lazy.

Its like if me or you were in there...we'd give our all but we'd look like we were running in mud. No offense to you though

[S.Red please]

Why he came on instead of Suso I have no idea. Nothing against the lad, but he's just not good enough and we had better more threatening and creative options on the bench.

[steveeastend]

I think its a little unfair to say that he didnt give his all. He just isnt anywhere near to the athlete he was and if you cant move quickly over 5 yards or change direction quickly, you're going to look lazy.

Its like if me or you were in there...we'd give our all but we'd look like we were running in mud. No offense to you though

No objections here. 

[smig]

He's shot physically at this level. It's like we owe the guy a dignified end to his career by giving him game time. There's just no room for sentimentality. He's got nothing to offer anymore. I'd rather see somebody like Pacheco on the bench than Cole.

[Fromola]

Joe Cole is finished as a Premier League footballer. It's as simple as that, he just hasn't got the legs or mobility. Look at his performance against Swansea the other week (or any league game he's played this season).

He's suited more to Europe (or the French league) as the games are slower. It was just stupid management bringing him on ahead of a genuine creative impact sub today, in Suso, when we needed a goal. Even Pacheco would have done more and at least got involved.

[Fromola]

He's shot physically at this level. It's like we owe the guy a dignified end to his career by giving him game time. There's just no room for sentimentality. He's got nothing to offer anymore. I'd rather see somebody like Pacheco on the bench than Cole.

I think those days are long gone at this club. Teams and subs are made as much on sentiment as merit these days.

[Bjinxi]

Strange move to bring him on. We needed pace and creativity. Suso was there to provide that. Cole unfortunately had no impact at all, which realistically was to be expected.

[astowell1]

Bit harsh I feel. He didn't have that much time to impact on the game and when he had a chance to, he delivered and excellent ball into Swansea's box. I'm with you on the subs who should have come on, but Cole did ok when he came on.

He wasn't good or bad, just pedestrian.  We needed someone to inject life in to us off the bench, it didn't come.

If Cole was to play then he probably should have started rather than come on as an impact sub.

[Red Genius]

Really?

Makes one and scores one.... and people are wondering why he was brought on today? have a word with yourself...

Of course he's been poor since he's arrived, but going on his last performance he warranted the first option today... anyone who says otherwise is talking with hindsight glasses on.

[Dree]

We didn't have the ball most of the time he came on. He made a tackle and put in a pretty damn good cross. Bringing him and Shelvey on sacrificed the midfield and against Swansea it's no wonder he was quite. Pointless to criticize him when there are much bigger issues.

[kevmck]

Some of the crap on here is embarrassing.  'Fat useless mess' etc.

Do I think hes the best player we've ever had?  Absolutely not - is he anywhere near the standard he used to be?  No..

Can he do a job for us?  Yes - he looked tidy mid-week, so why not give him a chance?  The entire team was largely vacant today.. Shelvey wasn't on fire either, and he came on at the same time - but lets all insult Cole because he didn't score in the little time he had on the pitch.. you know.. with all the goals the rest of the team was scoring, it seems unreal that Cole didn't either.

As long as Cole is wearing a Liverpool shirt, he'll get my backing - and those of you insulting him need to have a look at yourselves.

[Johnny B. Goode]

Why are people moaning about his cameo today? By the time he got in the whole team seemed dominated by Swansea and was holding very tight to keep a clean sheet. Not a very good situation for someone to get in and change everything, is it? Shelvey didn't add much, either. Stop looking for reasons to have a go at players

[Fromola]

Some of the crap on here is embarrassing.  'Fat useless mess' etc.

Do I think hes the best player we've ever had?  Absolutely not - is he anywhere near the standard he used to be?  No..

Can he do a job for us?  Yes - he looked tidy mid-week, so why not give him a chance?  The entire team was largely vacant today.. Shelvey wasn't on fire either, and he came on at the same time - but lets all insult Cole because he didn't score in the little time he had on the pitch.. you know.. with all the goals the rest of the team was scoring, it seems unreal that Cole didn't either.

As long as Cole is wearing a Liverpool shirt, he'll get my backing - and those of you insulting him need to have a look at yourselves.

Young Boys defensively over the two games were all over the place, so if there's a game you'd expect him to do well in it's at home to them. The European games are slower which suits him more than the helter skelter of a Premier League game - particularly away from home.

Against Swansea in the cup the other week he was in an embarrassment. He came on at West Brom, did nothing and then got injured. He came on against Stoke at 0-0 and did nothing. Compare that to Suso - who had a great game the other night himself - who came on at Chelsea and was excellent; came on against United and was excellent. I can't fathom why he'd bring Cole on instead of Suso today.

[Fromola]

Why are people moaning about his cameo today? By the time he got in the whole team seemed dominated by Swansea and was holding very tight to keep a clean sheet. Not a very good situation for someone to get in and change everything, is it? Shelvey didn't add much, either. Stop looking for reasons to have a go at players

That wasn't Cole's fault, but the fact we were carrying an extra player (i.e. Cole when he came on) hardly helped us getting dominated in that spell. Especially when others were visibly tiring.

[Sat1]

Did he actually come on? Thought him and downing walked off into the sunset...I wish

[kevmck]

I stand by what I say.. I'll support him as long as he's wearing red.. I'm not blinkered though.. I know he's been poor in the past.. but one thing people really ignore is.. how can he impress us if he doesn't get played?   Was he the best choice sub today?  Maybe not.. perhaps Suso would have been better.. but we have to give him a chance, especially while we're lacking much of an attacking threat - a run of games and suddenly he could be banging them in, and suddenly everyone will forget all the insults - but if we don't give him the chance.. how will we know?

My biggest concern with some of these posts isn't just based on his playing ability (or lack of, depending on who's side you're on).. its the over the top insults.. 'fat hopeless mess' is a good example.. fuckin hell.. if people think he's fat, we've got some proper anorexic's around here. 

[Chakan]

I stand by what I say.. I'll support him as long as he's wearing red.. I'm not blinkered though.. I know he's been poor in the past.. but one thing people really ignore is.. how can he impress us if he doesn't get played?   Was he the best choice sub today?  Maybe not.. perhaps Suso would have been better.. but we have to give him a chance, especially while we're lacking much of an attacking threat - a run of games and suddenly he could be banging them in, and suddenly everyone will forget all the insults - but if we don't give him the chance.. how will we know?

My biggest concern with some of these posts isn't just based on his playing ability (or lack of, depending on who's side you're on).. its the over the top insults.. 'fat hopeless mess' is a good example.. fuckin hell.. if people think he's fat, we've got some proper anorexic's around here. 

Joe Coles played 39 games for us. How many times can you honestly say you've been impressed?

[kevmck]

And how many of those performances have been under the current manager?  With the current line up.. with the current style of play?

[Chakan]

And how many of those performances have been under the current manager?  With the current line up.. with the current style of play?

7 games and had 1 decent showing which was on thursday.

And why should that matter anyway? He's been here for 3 years and as far as I am concerned is dead weight.

[The G in Gerrard]

I was surprised he came on today.

[ladcameo]

I stand by what I say.. I'll support him as long as he's wearing red.. I'm not blinkered though.. I know he's been poor in the past.. but one thing people really ignore is.. how can he impress us if he doesn't get played?   Was he the best choice sub today?  Maybe not.. perhaps Suso would have been better.. but we have to give him a chance, especially while we're lacking much of an attacking threat - a run of games and suddenly he could be banging them in, and suddenly everyone will forget all the insults - but if we don't give him the chance.. how will we know?

My biggest concern with some of these posts isn't just based on his playing ability (or lack of, depending on who's side you're on).. its the over the top insults.. 'fat hopeless mess' is a good example.. fuckin hell.. if people think he's fat, we've got some proper anorexic's around here. 

every liverpool fan will support every player who wears the red shirt
but there is a minimum level of play that is expected when you wear it
and when you dont perform you have to face the heat since you have let down people who passionately support the club which wears the great red shirt

[kevmck]

Of which I think 2 of those were coming on as a sub.. and several others where he didn't finish the game.

Hampered by injury and not given a run of games - ignored by one manager and trying hard to make a place for himself in the team now.

But that's ok.. he's been here 3 years so must be shit..

Absolutely nonsensical argument.. without a run of games, calling him dead weight is asinine.  Especially when you consider we're not exactly flush with depth in that position.

[Chakan]

Absolutely nonsensical argument.. without a run of games, calling him dead weight is asinine.  Especially when you consider we're not exactly flush with depth in that position.

Asinine...  really, if Joe Cole is the answer to our depth problem, then we are asking the wrong questions.

[kevmck]

every liverpool fan will support every player who wears the red shirt
but there is a minimum level of play that is expected when you wear it
and when you dont perform you have to face the heat since you have let down people who passionately support the club which wears the great red shirt

Absolutely not true.. there are plenty of "fans" who do not support a player as long as he's wearing red.. the 'i want it now' brigade who make up their mind and won't be swayed..

Yes, there is a minimum level of performance required, but if that level isn't being reached, then its up to the manager to decide whether they make the squad or not.. not.. oh you didn't play well.. I'm going to call you a useless fat c*nt at every opportunity now - I don't care if people criticize his performances, its the personal attacks on him which are fuckin pathetic.

I was surprised he came on today.

So was I.. I think Suso would have been a better option

[kevmck]

Asinine...  really, if Joe Cole is the answer to our depth problem, then we are asking the wrong questions.

We already have him as a player - we know we're shot on depth, the transfer window was all kinds of fucked up.. is that Cole's fault?

[Gojedo]

I was surprised he came on today.

You would figure that after his performance the other night and what would hopefully have been a renewed/newly found level of confidence (even after 1 game) his injection might have been an attempt to take advantage of that. Didn't work regardless of the reason he was put on and was largely unseen. Might have been better if he had been bought on a little earlier I guess.

[B0151?]

Not his fault he's a fat useless mess.....

big man