Topic: American Gods

[emrolfc]

Great season finale!!! Beautiful show.
What confuses me is that there are only 11 episode listed in total, including the next seson. In can't be right that there's gonna be only 11 episodes right?

[CrasherKid79]

Great season finale!!! Beautiful show.
What confuses me is that there are only 11 episode listed in total, including the next seson. In can't be right that there's gonna be only 11 episodes right?

Nah, apparently the end of Season 1 only takes us about 1/5 of the way into the book .... thank jesus(s)

[emrolfc]

Nah, apparently the end of Season 1 only takes us about 1/5 of the way into the book .... thank jesus(s)

Thought so. It just gave me a little scare seeing it on IMDB. Yes, the Jesuses were great and so was the whole part in Easter's mansion.Really looking forward to season 2.

[CrasherKid79]

Thought so. It just gave me a little scare seeing it on IMDB. Yes, the Jesuses were great and so was the whole part in Easter's mansion.Really looking forward to season 2.

The part in Easters Mansion was more Alice In Wonderland than any of the Tim Burton films.

[Brian Blessed]

Great season finale!!! Beautiful show.
What confuses me is that there are only 11 episode listed in total, including the next seson. In can't be right that there's gonna be only 11 episodes right?

It's like that on IMDB because season 2 has been confirmed, but not the number of episodes, so they have season 2 as three episodes. Episodes 1, 2 and 8 to be specific.

[pezzzer]

Best show on tv right now, barring maybe BCS.  Brilliant from start to finish.

[emrolfc]

The part in Easters Mansion was more Alice In Wonderland than any of the Tim Burton films.

Burton must have got something from Neil Gaiman at some point with the Sandman and everything
Back on topic,  I find that American Gods is not shying away from bizarreness and graphic stuff in a really nice way.

[CrasherKid79]

Burton must have got something from Neil Gaiman at some point with the Sandman and everything
Back on topic,  I find that American Gods is not shying away from bizarreness and graphic stuff in a really nice way.

It's not shying away from anything. Takes some balls for an American show to depict a breast feeding Mary.

Just come to me. The bloke who played the talking Jesus was the coward from Saving Private Ryan.... doing my head in that.

[emrolfc]

It's not shying away from anything. Takes some balls for an American show to depict a breast feeding Mary.

Just come to me. The bloke who played the talking Jesus was the coward from Saving Private Ryan.... doing my head in that.

Well, I first thought it was Rollo from Vikings. Anyway, we are 'blessed' to have this show

[Trada]

It's not shying away from anything.

Will they have the balls to show Muhammad?

Maybe as a ball of light I have a feeling they won't go there.

Just thinking aloud I totally love the show.

But just thought about that when you said what you did.

[CrasherKid79]

Will they have the balls to show Muhammad?

Maybe as a ball of light I have a feeling they won't go there.

Just thinking aloud I totally love the show.

But just thought about that and the modern world events.

is he in the book?

If so, I imagine only censorship would stop it. Seems the makers aren't particularly prescious about religion.

Probably not, don't think they cover the major figureheads... or didn't in the 1st series. They were quick to point out Jesus was just the son of a God.

[Brian Blessed]

Mo wasn't in the book, but I don't think Jesus was, either.

[CrasherKid79]

Watched the last episode again and it was an excellent finish to a great season.

Infact the best first season of anything I can remember, since I was 25 years late to the Twin Peaks party and watched the first season of that a few years ago.

The amount of things going on in each scene is amazing, and the humour is somewhere between dark and pitch black which is where I like it .... but then they'll throw a bit of slap stick in with Mad Sweeeneys bad luck streak without his lucky coin.

[Buck Pete]

I loved the choice of 60's doo whop music throughout. Don't think I've ever watched anything on TV that has looked so good. Budget must have been insane.

Just watched episode 7 and agree,  The soundtrack to this episode was absolutely superb.

Loved how they used Dion's Runaround Sue for the montage of Essie MacGowan going about her wild business in London.

A beautiful episode done extremely well. Wouldn't surprise me if both episodes 4 & 7 will be up for individual TV awards in the future.

[CrasherKid79]

Just watched episode 7 and agree,  The soundtrack to this episode was absolutely superb.

Loved how they used Dion's Runaround Sue for the montage of Essie MacGowan going about her wild business in London.

A beautiful episode done extremely well. Wouldn't surprise me if both episodes 4 & 7 will be up for individual TV awards in the future.

Too right. To think before this I only knew Emily Browning as  Babydoll from Sucker Punch. If you'd asked last week I'd have guessed she couldn't act for shit ! 

[Igor Tripod Biscan]

Too right. To think before this I only knew Emily Browning as  Babydoll from Sucker Punch. If you'd asked last week I'd have guessed she couldn't act for shit ! 

She was in that Legend Kray film too

What a wonderful episode

I love the guy who plays the Leprechaun who was in the Wire, very convincing accent for a yank

What a fucking awesome programme

Shame series 2 will be a while off

[CrasherKid79]

She was in that Legend Kray film too

What a wonderful episode

I love the guy who plays the Leprechaun who was in the Wire, very convincing accent for a yank

What a fucking awesome programme

Shame series 2 will be a while off

Yup she was, forgot about that.

I also always forget Mad Sweeney was Nick Sobotka in The Wire.

[Trada]

Will they have the balls to show Muhammad?

Maybe as a ball of light I have a feeling they won't go there.

Just thinking aloud I totally love the show.

But just thought about that when you said what you did.

But saying that they did touch on those type of things with her seeing her temple being destroyed by ISIS on the TV.

[Something Worse]

She was in that Legend Kray film too

What a wonderful episode

I love the guy who plays the Leprechaun who was in the Wire, very convincing accent for a yank

What a fucking awesome programme

Shame series 2 will be a while off

The Leprechaun is Liev Schreiber's baby brother! I thought he was great the whole way through.

Crazy ending. I guessed Wednesday was who he was after the first episode, but it was a cool reveal.

I'm interested to see if any Roman or Greek gods show up, beyond Vulcan.

[CrasherKid79]

The Leprechaun is Liev Schreiber's baby brother! I thought he was great the whole way through.

Crazy ending. I guessed Wednesday was who he was after the first episode, but it was a cool reveal.

I'm interested to see if any Roman or Greek gods show up, beyond Vulcan.

Ahhh of course, should have guessed with the surname he was Ray Donovan's brother. Surely a better Boondock Saints type film will be made with those 2 in?

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My first guess was Wednesday was Lucifer, but then as the series went with his constant rounding up of troops my second guess would have been God of War .... I must admit the name Odin didn't spring to mind but when he said it I recognised it.... bit rusty on the old Norse Gods there

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[conman]

Ahhh of course, should have guessed with the surname he was Ray Donovan's brother. Surely a better Boondock Saints type film will be made with those 2 in?

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My first guess was Wednesday was Lucifer, but then as the series went with his constant rounding up of troops my second guess would have been God of War .... I must admit the name Odin didn't spring to mind but when he said it I recognised it.... bit rusty on the old Norse Gods there

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Odin = Wodin = Wednesday.
Thor = Thursday. I originally thought the Czernobog was Thor, So I wonder if he will make an appearance.

[Buck Pete]

Just watched the finale. If I thought the first 7 episodes were confusing then episode 8 was a total mind fuck

Didn't realise the identity of Wednesday was a big secret.  The cast list on Wiki listed from the start had  him listed as:

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Mr Wednesday/Odin

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Wish i hadn't gone on there now but i wanted to actors names and stuff.

Think I'm going to need to read a recap from Den of Geek etc as I am mightily confused to be honest.

[CrasherKid79]

Just watched the finale. If I thought the first 7 episodes were confusing then episode 8 was a total mind fuck

Didn't realise the identity of Wednesday was a big secret.  The cast list on Wiki listed from the start had  him listed as:

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Mr Wednesday/Odin

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Wish i hadn't gone on there now but i wanted to actors names and stuff.

Think I'm going to need to read a recap from Den of Geek etc as I am mightily confused to be honest.

Wikis lethal for spoilers before watching something. Good old IMDB is my first port of call.

[Something Worse]

Just watched the finale. If I thought the first 7 episodes were confusing then episode 8 was a total mind fuck

Didn't realise the identity of Wednesday was a big secret.  The cast list on Wiki listed from the start had  him listed as:

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Mr Wednesday/Odin

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Wish i hadn't gone on there now but i wanted to actors names and stuff.

Think I'm going to need to read a recap from Den of Geek etc as I am mightily confused to be honest.

You can always post questions in here, that way nobody will spoil any future developments for you?

Even imdb can inadvertently spoil things. I had a major death in Dexter spoiled by seeing the number of episodes the actor was credited in. My own fault for looking him up.

[B0151?]

Will they have the balls to show Muhammad?

Maybe as a ball of light I have a feeling they won't go there.

No doubt they probably wouldn't because it would be more hassle than it's worth, but Mo just doesn't fit into our (or American) popular culture and imagination the way that Jesus does.

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Jesus and Easter is an obvious thing for the show. Maybe there's other religions equivalent but no-one would get it, and this show is about America after all.

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[Igor Tripod Biscan]

No doubt they probably wouldn't because it would be more hassle than it's worth, but Mo just doesn't fit into our (or American) popular culture and imagination the way that Jesus does.

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Jesus and Easter is an obvious thing for the show. Maybe there's other religions equivalent but no-one would get it, and this show is about America after all.

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I imagine the loons would equally be out in full force if they don't have him i.e. "They ridiculed Jesus but not 'Muhammad'"

[CrasherKid79]

I imagine the loons would equally be out in full force if they don't have him i.e. "They ridiculed Jesus but not 'Muhammad'"

I'm sure the Westboro Baptist Church types are up in arms about the Jesus(s)

Nobody pays them any attention though, just sad attention seekers.

Personally, I saw it as a gentle poke at some followers rather than ridiculing Jesus.

The likes of South Park and Family Guy have done far more offensive portraits over the years under the safety of them being cartoons.

[Nobby Reserve]

The bad news is that Green & Fuller are no longer going to be the show runners. Starz/Freemantle are playing down reports of a rift (rumours G&F wanted a bigger budget), and there's a carrot that G&F will have some role, but any uncertainty is going to at best delay Series 2. Gillian Anderson has already said she likely won't reprise her role without Fuller's involvement (the nature of her character means they could replace her without it jarring too much).

Gaiman is going to have a bigger role, apparently. And the main characters are all signed up. Can't see the next series being aired in 2018, though. Frustrating because, if it continues to follow the book as closely, it just gets madder.

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I've read articles from before series 1 aired, that say a whole series will cover the Lakeside story; I really hope not, as it's a relatively quiet period of the book (not unwelcome!) and they'd really have to pad it out a lot to fill a series. Could cover it in 2+1 episodes IMO. But as long as they do get to the end of the book, I'll be happy

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[Brian Blessed]

Anderson could be replaced, but I hope not, she was fantastic in this, and you could tell she loved the role.

[Brian Blessed]

They have a new showrunner, and he seems like a good fit.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/american-gods-hires-new-showrunner-season-2-1080813?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=THR%20Breaking%20News_2018-02-02%2014:15:00_lgoldberg&utm_term=hollywoodreporter_breakingnews

[Nobby Reserve]

They have a new showrunner, and he seems like a good fit.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/american-gods-hires-new-showrunner-season-2-1080813?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=THR%20Breaking%20News_2018-02-02%2014:15:00_lgoldberg&utm_term=hollywoodreporter_breakingnews

That's good news - and I'm pleased to hear that, after Green/Fuller planned to take the series even further from the book (as a fan of the book, some of the deviation jarred with me), Gaiman looks like he'll have more control and he wants to keep the series more faithful to the book (which IMO will be a positive)

[Brian Blessed]

Same trailer, but different regions.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5xBezGRPUR4

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9lFt4WlB_Qc

 

[Nobby Reserve]

That's good news - and I'm pleased to hear that, after Green/Fuller planned to take the series even further from the book (as a fan of the book, some of the deviation jarred with me), Gaiman looks like he'll have more control and he wants to keep the series more faithful to the book (which IMO will be a positive)

Well, that showrunner - Jesse Alexander - got canned in September, with the role taken on by the producing director and line producer at Freemantle, who've been frantically re-shooting scenes.

Alexander was Gaiman's choice, and was reportedly taking the show back in a more conventional, book-orientated way, but some key actors reportedly had issues with the writing and dialogue, and Starz demanded a feel more like S1. I've read reports that several 'season finale' scripts by Alexander were binned before he was.

So it's somewhat a miracle that Series 2 is out on 19th March.

Whether it's as hypnotisingly excellent as series 1, or a complete dog's breakfast, remains to be seen. I just hope they finish the story and don't can it after S2.

[Red Viper]

Watched the first episode of this last night. Not sure how I missed it when it came out as the premise sounds right up my street. Ordered the book to come today so is it worth holding off on the rest of the series and reading the book first?

[Nobby Reserve]

Watched the first episode of this last night. Not sure how I missed it when it came out as the premise sounds right up my street. Ordered the book to come today so is it worth holding off on the rest of the series and reading the book first?

I read the book a few years ago, and again not that long after (because I loved the book).

On the one hand, the book allows you to watch the TV series without thinking 'WTF is going on?'. Yet I found some parts that deviated quite a way from the book to be annoying.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

I just got American Gods: The Tenth Anniversary Edition (A Full Cast Production) off Audble free trial,cancelled straight away and they then offer you another free book,you then cancel again and get 2 books.

[Skidder.]

What are folk making of the new series insofar?

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I think you can see that there have been troubles backstage. Also, they've took a massive slice out of Terminator's 'talk while you drive' concept. I'm going give this a few more episodes and if it doesn't pick up, I'm gonna bin it and see how it pans out before watching on. 

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[dalarr]

I just finished season one and I can't understand why they've given Laura such a huge role in this. She was annoying in the book and unbeareable in the series.
It's a difficult story to pull off on screen and I think they did a good job in season one.

[Nobby Reserve]

I drifted off watching this about two-thirds through s2 with a view to coming back to it, but never got round to it. Now I find out s3 ran last year then Starz cancelled the whole thing.

No point catching up now, I guess 


Does illustrate perfectly that trying to stretch a book/story out to fill a prolonged run of seasons just alienates fans of the book who get sick of the superfluous storylines & characters, whilst turning off viewers who get bored with it dragging on and on.

3 seasons max would have served the story better. But it's far from alone in this crime. And it fucks me off when these kind of shows get cancelled without finishing.

One of my favourite ever books, and the story is generally well-paced (barring the bit of a lull when he's in Lakeside)