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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #280 on: May 23, 2017, 09:54:19 am »
Despicable cowardly bastards.

Thoughts with the families of all those affected. As a parent (and frankly just a decent human), it makes me physically sick to think of the pain and loss that people are going through right now.
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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #281 on: May 23, 2017, 10:04:39 am »
This weekend thousands upon thousands of people where planning to attend large events and no doubt have nervous thoughts in their minds...but we cant allow that to change our lives...I've got ticket to a big gig on Friday. I will be there!

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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #282 on: May 23, 2017, 10:06:15 am »
Evil twisted bastards.
I hope they catch anyone aiding and harbouring these despicable twats & throw away the key.


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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #283 on: May 23, 2017, 10:08:17 am »
How was the security? I used to go to Sweden Rock Festival and your bag was always thoroughly searched and you were always patted down. Reading some reports in Swedish papers that body searches and bag searches were non- existent/lax.
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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #284 on: May 23, 2017, 10:09:49 am »
Targeting a gig you know is going to be chiefly filled with girls and female teenagers make it an even more incomprehensibly callous act.

From experience, the healing process from experiencing this sort of thing seems to never end.

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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #285 on: May 23, 2017, 10:12:41 am »
How was the security? I used to go to Sweden Rock Festival and your bag was always thoroughly searched and you were always patted down. Reading some reports in Swedish papers that body searches and bag searches were non- existent/lax.

The explosion was in the foyer and not inside the arena. Its a public place so its literally like attacking someone as they leave a venue.

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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #286 on: May 23, 2017, 10:15:18 am »
How was the security? I used to go to Sweden Rock Festival and your bag was always thoroughly searched and you were always patted down. Reading some reports in Swedish papers that body searches and bag searches were non- existent/lax.
The reports are wide of the mark. The bomb was triggered outside the venue in a public passage between Victoria railway station and the arena. It's a place where many people meet after a concert before getting trains out of Manchester
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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #287 on: May 23, 2017, 10:19:00 am »
The explosion was in the foyer and not inside the arena. Its a public place so its literally like attacking someone as they leave a venue.

Sadly the thought had crossed my mind in the past that this is a very exposed space with little policing.

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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #288 on: May 23, 2017, 10:31:30 am »
Targeting a gig you know is going to be chiefly filled with girls and female teenagers make it an even more incomprehensibly callous act.

From experience, the healing process from experiencing this sort of thing seems to never end.

The problem is you (general sense) are trying to comprehend. So many post similarly. The act of trying to understand relies on an assumption of the awareness of human quality in the murderer, for him to then break it, and then for you to not understand it.

Don't. Plenty mature to adulthood without ever buying into or understanding the same shared ideals. It just is. Ultimately it's a machine, if the programming goes wrong, and once you are an adult you don't question, analyse yourself, it goes on, perpetually. That we cannot control.

What we can control, is the path a guy with a certain thought process goes down. Islam provides a nice path for attention seeking mass murder. There is a way to shut down that path, but it most certainly does not involve the world legitimatising the cocksucking leaders in the middle east by dealing with them as equals.


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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #289 on: May 23, 2017, 10:31:58 am »
To think there will be people in the world celebrating what happened last night. Sick bastards.
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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #290 on: May 23, 2017, 10:36:03 am »
I just can't get my head arround it.
Can't imagine sending my child to a concert and then...
I feel sick.
Is this the world we are going to leave to our children?

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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #291 on: May 23, 2017, 10:36:13 am »
Sadly, mankind’s capacity for evil has remained consistently high throughout time. What has changed is population movement and instant worldwide communication giving conflict a far greater reach than ever before.

There is a grim cycle to these stories. First there is the “magnificent response” of the emergency services, then “communities coming together” then cries of “They shall not win”, then criticism of the security services who “could have done more” then dark suggestions that “others were involved” then funerals representing a “celebration of good not evil”. Rewind for the next one.

It seems that it was a suicide bomber, that is the preferred modus operandi of Middle Eastern terrorism, beyond that we will have to wait.

There will be justified scrutiny of the religious, ethnic, cultural, political and community context of this attack. But sometimes we can seek rational explanations where there are none. Where individuals, or small groups, have mentally moved to a position where they do something, “because they can".
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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #292 on: May 23, 2017, 10:39:28 am »
Don't know if anyone saw the clip on Skynews of a woman actually very worried about a suspicious person next to her with a bag, so much so she reported it to security. Said a few minutes before the bomb went off, she got up and disappeared. Very sinister (possibly).

I'm not buying that a suspicious bag was taken into the event (including being scanned by the staff) to then be taken outside again into the public.

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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #293 on: May 23, 2017, 10:41:10 am »
I'm not buying that a suspicious bag was taken into the event (including being scanned by the staff) to then be taken outside again into the public.
Yeah, I doubt the bag has much to do with anything but possible accomplice maybe. She just seemed very worried about it and reported it to security. Very odd.

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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #294 on: May 23, 2017, 10:44:07 am »
They do it to provoke a reaction. That then provokes more. Ie people attacking mosques, non-extreme Muslims. With the ultimate goal of driving those moderate or unsympathetic believers into becoming extreme ones out if their own eye-for-an-eye retaliation and some sort of big divisive battle. It's just nihilistic psychopathy.

And the best thing to do is not take the bait and be lowered to their base level of hate. They'll die off enentually on their own


I would not be so sure about it.... The demographics of muslim countries is growing rapidly (or muslim faith people i think), double what it was some years ago... (Turkey, Iran...) don´t have the exact statistics now... So ultimatelly this will come to a question either its your kids or mine...

Hopefully this day won´t come but... you can´t expect people not to be angry towards west if west europe lives in luxury, everyone has a car, we travel by airplains and everything... using much fuel etc.. and the other part of world lives in tents, in constant fear of dying day by day where things like that happend daily, even worse...

Still this might as well be a person who was already born in Britain, just like the French terrorists who were belgium citizens, born in Belgium - therefore EU... so all the talk about migration for me as person from east Europe, who works hard and payes taxes here is strange... Britain and basically whole west europe has a big problem within.... and if you ignore it... it will become worse...

It is all about numbers... i am 31, have no kids since i work and study all the time since i was 17... i want to have kids max. 2 when im ready financially and mentally... Those guys have kids from their early 20s and maybe have 5 or 6... many of them... I think it is to late to deal with it now..

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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #295 on: May 23, 2017, 10:46:23 am »
Targeting a gig you know is going to be chiefly filled with girls and female teenagers make it an even more incomprehensibly callous act.

From experience, the healing process from experiencing this sort of thing seems to never end.

It would have been less callous if it was chiefly filled with boys and male teenagers?
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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #296 on: May 23, 2017, 10:48:10 am »
I don't get this guy on Sky News going on about possibly starting to check bags away from the arena like they do at some stadiums. That's going to be impossible to implement in Manchester because of the arena's location unfortunately.


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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #297 on: May 23, 2017, 10:50:42 am »
To think there will be people in the world celebrating what happened last night. Sick bastards.
That's a very difficult thing to comprehend but we have to remember that the evil cowards that carry out these attacks see every human life as worthless in the pursuit of their twisted cause.

Sadly i think we are powerless to prevent these kind of attacks if the attackers are hiding in plain sight until they decide to attack.We need to break the cycle of silence in communities surrounding the networks and individuals who are drawn towards radicalism.

My thoughts go out to everybody involved in last nights awful,tragic attack.

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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #298 on: May 23, 2017, 10:52:58 am »
Woke up to news of this.  Been trying to catch up before I posted.  Don't really have any words.  Apart from the horrible loss of lives, the pain of the injured, the suffering of so many families... my heart just goes out to all those trying to cope with this.

I'm sure we will all have concerns about this becoming a political football in the coming weeks, a la Jo Cox.  Let us hope we keep the victims at the forefront of our thoughts.

And please be vigilant.  There's a major music festival on in Liverpool over the Bank Holiday weekend, where security will be even harder to maintain.  And I suspect we wont be the only city with events planned.

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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #299 on: May 23, 2017, 10:54:15 am »
Despicable.  Horrifying. Heartbreaking.

You can't bomb this shit away.
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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #300 on: May 23, 2017, 10:57:38 am »
Terrible thing, sad times, so sorry for the people effected.
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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #301 on: May 23, 2017, 11:04:23 am »
just so people kind of get how the MEN works. The Arena adjoins the stations. When you leave the main area there is foyer which is like like a hub from which you can head into town or head into the train station. Im assuming as thousands left this twat exploded his bomb in the foyer.

There are people selling merchandise out their aswell. sad times man.

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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #302 on: May 23, 2017, 11:07:34 am »
I don't get this guy on Sky News going on about possibly starting to check bags away from the arena like they do at some stadiums. That's going to be impossible to implement in Manchester because of the arena's location unfortunately.



The bag check area would then become the target. There will always be bottlenecks. And besides this bomb was in the public area.

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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #303 on: May 23, 2017, 11:09:20 am »
Targeting a gig you know is going to be chiefly filled with girls and female teenagers make it an even more incomprehensibly callous act.

From experience, the healing process from experiencing this sort of thing seems to never end.
Terrible Tragedy but how does that make it a more callous act?  :rollseyes

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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #304 on: May 23, 2017, 11:11:56 am »
Just giving page set up by MEN has raised £25k in less than a few hours

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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #305 on: May 23, 2017, 11:11:57 am »
Terrible Tragedy but how does that make it a more callous act?  :rollseyes

I think he is making the point they are kids
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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #306 on: May 23, 2017, 11:17:47 am »
Main news from May just now is confirmation that they know who the murderer was and are now looking to find out whether he had help. She mentioned that many of the 59 injured are in a life threatening condition. Really hope press took onboard her suggestion to think of families who are desperately looking for news of missing loved ones.
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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #307 on: May 23, 2017, 11:28:52 am »
My thoughts and prayers are with those who have died and those that have been injured by this shocking incident. The comfort I am getting is that people have been helping each other with taxi rides, food whatever is needed at this time.   

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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #308 on: May 23, 2017, 11:29:23 am »
Arndale evacuated.

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« Reply #309 on: May 23, 2017, 11:30:01 am »
Armed police have gone in and arrested someone at the Arndale

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« Reply #310 on: May 23, 2017, 11:30:43 am »
No one I know was caught up in the attack but it was an attack on my brothers and sisters.

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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #311 on: May 23, 2017, 11:31:39 am »
MEN reporting raids and arrests were made this morning. Chorlton and Ashton two places mentioned.
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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #312 on: May 23, 2017, 11:33:31 am »
The ISIS narrative is that they're meant to be attacking the western ideals. Fucking teenage girls. It's just cowardly.

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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #313 on: May 23, 2017, 11:33:57 am »
https://twitter.com/MotherLeopard92/status/866959220066979840

Video of police escorting the arrested guy in Arndale.

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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #314 on: May 23, 2017, 11:34:09 am »
That twiter page of the first named victim is absolutely heartbreaking.

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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #315 on: May 23, 2017, 11:35:24 am »
Police get a tough time, and often it's deserved.

But I wouldn't want to be in their shoes trying to deal with these issues.  Immense bravery.
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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #316 on: May 23, 2017, 11:36:56 am »
Manchester News

 The Arndale evacuation is UNCONNECTED to the Manchester terror attack but there have been other arrests across Manchester.

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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #317 on: May 23, 2017, 11:37:14 am »
This is so fucking horrendous and sad that I'm having a hard time following the aftermath. Usually I'm checking updates. Feel like getting away from it all this morning, fucking heartbreaking for these families.
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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #318 on: May 23, 2017, 11:39:45 am »
I regularly attend gigs and this has shook me to the core especially after the Paris attack too.

People have gone to have a good time and it ended in chaos.

Thoughts with everyone and we have to pull together in these terrible incident. People have to go back out to gigs and show solidarity.

The poor families affected. I am numb.
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Re: Incident at Manchester Arena
« Reply #319 on: May 23, 2017, 11:49:45 am »
Awful news. Read the story on the bus on my way to taking an exam, absolutely insane to think about. Attacking kids.. beyond belief.

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