Topic: Chelsea FC

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I assume the biggest problem next season for Chelsea will be Chelsea telling players to leave and players telling Chelsea, fuck you pay me my £200,000 every week for the next decade.

Whats' that thing called again......................squad harmony, yeah that's it

[Tobelius]

I assume the biggest problem next season for Chelsea will be Chelsea telling players to leave and players telling Chelsea, fuck you pay me my £200,000 every week for the next decade.

Whats' that thing called again......................squad harmony, yeah that's it

I'd love for them to have a few more Winston Bogarde situations there,Boehly's idiocy deserves it.

[Cafe De Paris]

I was listening to some Chelsea fans and they were talking about bringing in new players. I’m like you want MORE players. What the fk are they going to do with all of the players that are sitting there in a massive squad.

[rafathegaffa83]

Adam Crafton@AdamCrafton_
Exclusive Paris Saint-Germain drafted a legal letter to complain to Sporting Lisbon on Sunday after media reports emerged suggesting Chelsea might take a stake in the Portuguese club as part of a proposed transfer for Manuel Ugarte.

Adam Crafton@AdamCrafton_
Sources close to dealings between Chelsea & Sporting deny a minority stake in the Portuguese club was discussed in relation to the transfer, but PSG intended to write to Sporting for answers + escalate matter to UEFA until Chelsea pulled out on Sunday eve.

Adam Crafton@AdamCrafton_
PSG’s draft legal letter cited UEFA rules that forbid one club from owning shares/securities in another while participating in UEFA competitions & expressed concern that commercial leverage such as a stake could be used to influence a transfer

[classycarra]

Adam Crafton@AdamCrafton_
Exclusive Paris Saint-Germain drafted a legal letter to complain to Sporting Lisbon on Sunday after media reports emerged suggesting Chelsea might take a stake in the Portuguese club as part of a proposed transfer for Manuel Ugarte.

Adam Crafton@AdamCrafton_
Sources close to dealings between Chelsea & Sporting deny a minority stake in the Portuguese club was discussed in relation to the transfer, but PSG intended to write to Sporting for answers + escalate matter to UEFA until Chelsea pulled out on Sunday eve.

Adam Crafton@AdamCrafton_
PSG’s draft legal letter cited UEFA rules that forbid one club from owning shares/securities in another while participating in UEFA competitions & expressed concern that commercial leverage such as a stake could be used to influence a transfer

Sounds like Chelsea and Sporting might have been scared out of breaking some rules and testing some laws/regulations

Thankfully arbiters of all things fair play ... checks notes... PSG?!... were switched on and made sure it didn't happen

[Tokyoite]

I was listening to some Chelsea fans and they were talking about bringing in new players. I’m like you want MORE players. What the fk are they going to do with all of the players that are sitting there in a massive squad.

It's an addiction, once you start collecting them you just can't stop yourself 

[GreatEx]

PSG: "NOOOOoooo, you can't cheat that way, you can only cheat this way!"

[FiSh77]

PSG: "NOOOOoooo, you can't cheat that way, you can only cheat this way!"

The "participating in UEFA competitions" bit means they weren't cheating

Hopefully the c*nts end up back where they came from and their only trips to Europe are Cardiff, Swansea & Wrexham
 

[bird_lfc]

Here’s me expecting them to slow down a bit. Just spent almost £20m on a 16 year old from Ecuador.. 

[RJH]

Adam Crafton@AdamCrafton_
Exclusive Paris Saint-Germain drafted a legal letter to complain to Sporting Lisbon on Sunday after media reports emerged suggesting Chelsea might take a stake in the Portuguese club as part of a proposed transfer for Manuel Ugarte.

Adam Crafton@AdamCrafton_
Sources close to dealings between Chelsea & Sporting deny a minority stake in the Portuguese club was discussed in relation to the transfer, but PSG intended to write to Sporting for answers + escalate matter to UEFA until Chelsea pulled out on Sunday eve.

Adam Crafton@AdamCrafton_
PSG’s draft legal letter cited UEFA rules that forbid one club from owning shares/securities in another while participating in UEFA competitions & expressed concern that commercial leverage such as a stake could be used to influence a transfer

Really great to see such a strong stance from Qatar Sports Investments, owners of PSG and 21.67% of Braga.

[Crosby Nick]

Here’s me expecting them to slow down a bit. Just spent almost £20m on a 16 year old from Ecuador.. 

Who do they think they are, Brighton?

[Dim Glas]

Just football getting more and more fucked each day 

From journalist Ben Jacobs on Twitter:

Clearlake and PIF have an excellent relationship. And the latter are driving many high-profile moves to Saudi on behalf of Al-Nassr, Al-Hilal, Al-Ittihad, and Al-Ahli. #CFC see an opportunity to offload some players to Saudi. And PIF have multiple Chelsea players on their radar.

With all these high-profile deals the club is often selected quite late in the process, but the aim is to populate all four clubs with stars to create Riyadh and Jeddah rivalries with global appeal. Next season there will new TV deals, and an English highlights show is expected.

These transfers are fluid. Player input matters, too, but PIF, and the Saudi Pro League, are driving many of these moves. By the time the club president flies in, it's often for final negotiation or even just handshakes and photos. This was certainly the case with Ronaldo.

A good example of this is also N'Golo Kante and Al-Nassr. They thought they had a chance for ages, and were even the 'frontrunner' at one point. But suddenly it was radio silence and they realised they were powerless to sign him. Now he's joining Al-Ittihad.

https://twitter.com/JacobsBen/status/1670068528425193474?s=20

[Solomon Grundy]

*sighs*

[thaddeus]

Just football getting more and more fucked each day 

From journalist Ben Jacobs on Twitter:

Clearlake and PIF have an excellent relationship. And the latter are driving many high-profile moves to Saudi on behalf of Al-Nassr, Al-Hilal, Al-Ittihad, and Al-Ahli. #CFC see an opportunity to offload some players to Saudi. And PIF have multiple Chelsea players on their radar.

With all these high-profile deals the club is often selected quite late in the process, but the aim is to populate all four clubs with stars to create Riyadh and Jeddah rivalries with global appeal. Next season there will new TV deals, and an English highlights show is expected.

These transfers are fluid. Player input matters, too, but PIF, and the Saudi Pro League, are driving many of these moves. By the time the club president flies in, it's often for final negotiation or even just handshakes and photos. This was certainly the case with Ronaldo.

A good example of this is also N'Golo Kante and Al-Nassr. They thought they had a chance for ages, and were even the 'frontrunner' at one point. But suddenly it was radio silence and they realised they were powerless to sign him. Now he's joining Al-Ittihad.

https://twitter.com/JacobsBen/status/1670068528425193474?s=20

Even for modern football that approach is incredibly artificial.  Such a depressing state of affairs.

I'm not convinced Chelsea will have much luck flogging their deadwood to Saudi Arabia but then I didn't foresee Brazilian international Oscar joining Shanghai either.  Grossly inflated fees for Aubameyang and Kepa incoming.

[PeterTheRed ...]

Just football getting more and more fucked each day 

From journalist Ben Jacobs on Twitter:

Clearlake and PIF have an excellent relationship. And the latter are driving many high-profile moves to Saudi on behalf of Al-Nassr, Al-Hilal, Al-Ittihad, and Al-Ahli. #CFC see an opportunity to offload some players to Saudi. And PIF have multiple Chelsea players on their radar.

With all these high-profile deals the club is often selected quite late in the process, but the aim is to populate all four clubs with stars to create Riyadh and Jeddah rivalries with global appeal. Next season there will new TV deals, and an English highlights show is expected.

These transfers are fluid. Player input matters, too, but PIF, and the Saudi Pro League, are driving many of these moves. By the time the club president flies in, it's often for final negotiation or even just handshakes and photos. This was certainly the case with Ronaldo.

A good example of this is also N'Golo Kante and Al-Nassr. They thought they had a chance for ages, and were even the 'frontrunner' at one point. But suddenly it was radio silence and they realised they were powerless to sign him. Now he's joining Al-Ittihad.

https://twitter.com/JacobsBen/status/1670068528425193474?s=20

As long as they are signing players over 30, I don't have a problem with this circus. Most of you are probably too young to remember the 70's, when the top veteran players like Pele, Cruyff and Beckenbauer joined the North American Soccer League ...

[Brian Blessed]

Can’t wait to get my Riyadh Jeddah half and half.

[Draex]

Chelsea are basically me on football manager, monitor everyone else’s transfer business and swoop in and scoop up every single decent prospect by silly addons and wages, I’d basically check every country’s new intake of wonderkid regents and double their wages.

[MonsLibpool]

Going through their account, they look screwed.

This season, this ratio must be 90% or less:

(Wages+Agent fees+Amortisation and any impairment of transfer fees)/(Adjusted revenue+profit or loss on player sales).

Their core revenue (infrastructure improvements aren't included) can't absorb their current costs. Hence, they are a selling club that is dependent of selling players for more than their amortised value. Why is this an issue anyway? It is because they need to accept losses on some of their big money flops like Lukaku to get them off their wage bill. From an accounting POV, it'd be better to continue loaning him out that cut their losses which will put them more in the red. The issue is that there are new limits to the number of players they can loan out.

They MUST sell well but clubs know that they are desperate and might try to lowball them which will be pointless. Also, the 9-year contract offered to some players will make their amortised values higher for a longer period of time which would make it hard to shift them for a profit if they flop. For example, Fernandez's amortised value is still around €100m. Now, the profit on sales considers the last 3 years and then divides that by 3. This means that only a 3rd of any profit they make will be factored in.

The analysis I did was using their latest accounts (when they add CL football). Now, they aren't even in Europe which will really hit their wallets and tighten their margins.

I don't see them passing FFP next season. Will be very interesting to see how they go about it.

[medley]

Even for modern football that approach is incredibly artificial.  Such a depressing state of affairs.

I'm not convinced Chelsea will have much luck flogging their deadwood to Saudi Arabia but then I didn't foresee Brazilian international Oscar joining Shanghai either.  Grossly inflated fees for Aubameyang and Kepa incoming.

I completely forgot about him. I'm astonished he's still only 31 and he's actually still there. I would have thought he'd play a couple seasons and then may go back to Brazil.

A quick google search from a few different websites list him being on 400k a week.. 

[the_red_pill]

Even for modern football that approach is incredibly artificial.  Such a depressing state of affairs.

I'm not convinced Chelsea will have much luck flogging their deadwood to Saudi Arabia but then I didn't foresee Brazilian international Oscar joining Shanghai either.  Grossly inflated fees for Aubameyang and Kepa incoming.

You can just whiff that new plastic smell and the fake glitter.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Going through their account, they look screwed.

Spoiler

This season, this ratio must be 90% or less:

(Wages+Agent fees+Amortisation and any impairment of transfer fees)/(Adjusted revenue+profit or loss on player sales).

Their core revenue (infrastructure improvements aren't included) can't absorb their current costs. Hence, they are a selling club that is dependent of selling players for more than their amortised value. Why is this an issue anyway? It is because they need to accept losses on some of their big money flops like Lukaku to get them off their wage bill. From an accounting POV, it'd be better to continue loaning him out that cut their losses which will put them more in the red. The issue is that there are new limits to the number of players they can loan out.

They MUST sell well but clubs know that they are desperate and might try to lowball them which will be pointless. Also, the 9-year contract offered to some players will make their amortised values higher for a longer period of time which would make it hard to shift them for a profit if they flop. For example, Fernandez's amortised value is still around €100m. Now, the profit on sales considers the last 3 years and then divides that by 3. This means that only a 3rd of any profit they make will be factored in.

[close]

The analysis I did was using their latest accounts (when they add CL football).Now, they aren't even in Europe which will really hit their wallets and tighten their margins.

I don't see them passing FFP next season. Will be very interesting to see how they go about it.

I'm convinced that the story about Boehly thinking they automatically qualified for Europe is true.

[darragh85]

Would you be happy like?

I played most of my career in the Saudi or Chinese league

Wouldn't you feel like you wasted your talent? It's a certain type of character that makes a move like this I guess.

I always remember that Brazilian guy that went straight to China from Fluminense in Brazil and never played in Europe. Was good enough to play in Europe. What a waste.

[CraigDS]

Would you be happy like?

I played most of my career in the Saudi or Chinese league

Wouldn't you feel like you wasted your talent? It's a certain type of character that makes a move like this I guess.

I always remember that Brazilian guy that went straight to China from Fluminense in Brazil and never played in Europe. Was good enough to play in Europe. What a waste.

Think there are definitely a mix of those players who do it because they love the game, and those who do it because they just happened to be good at it and can make a fortune doing it - the latter of which are prob more likely to go where pays the most.

[Clint Eastwood]

So Saudi Arabia are funnelling money in to Chelsea. Then Saudi teams spending £25m on deadwood like Koulibaly. Stinks.

[PeterTheRed ...]

Would you be happy like?

I played most of my career in the Saudi or Chinese league

Wouldn't you feel like you wasted your talent? It's a certain type of character that makes a move like this I guess.

I always remember that Brazilian guy that went straight to China from Fluminense in Brazil and never played in Europe. Was good enough to play in Europe. What a waste.

A lot of South American players grow up in poverty. For them, playing for clubs like Flamengo or River Plate, as well as for their national teams, is the pinnacle of their careers. Everything else is just business ...

[Wghennessy]

So Saudi Arabia are funnelling money in to Chelsea. Then Saudi teams spending £25m on deadwood like Koulibaly. Stinks.

Absolutely reeks this. Wouldnt surprise me if one of them bid silly money for a random academy player so it helps them hit ffp.

[MonsLibpool]

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1670536582305120263?s=20

Koulibaly's fee would allow them break even. Doesn't really help them get out of the hole they've dug themselves into.

[Brian Blessed]

Think there are definitely a mix of those players who do it because they love the game, and those who do it because they just happened to be good at it and can make a fortune doing it - the latter of which are prob more likely to go where pays the most.

That’s it. Even if you love it and are a middling player, why not take that pay increase? You could argue the morals, but has any player suggested they care about morals, those going over there or not?

And it’s not like it’s China, it’s so much closer.

[Wghennessy]

As long as they are signing players over 30, I don't have a problem with this circus. Most of you are probably too young to remember the 70's, when the top veteran players like Pele, Cruyff and Beckenbauer joined the North American Soccer League ...

I do when its allowing clubs to get away with breaking ffp.

[Wghennessy]

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1670536582305120263?s=20

Koulibaly's fee would allow them break even. Doesn't really help them get out of the hole they've dug themselves into.

On that transfer yes but they should never be breaking even with it....thats the problem. They are essentially signing players risk free.

[clinical]

Dodgy as fuck all this.

So PIF who invest in clearlake and own Newcastle are now buying players to help Chelsea meet FFP. Football is finished.

[Wghennessy]

Dodgy as fuck all this.

So PIF who invest in clearlake and own Newcastle are now buying players to help Chelsea meet FFP. Football is finished.

The 8 year contracts were bad enough. Chelsea are taking the piss.

Koulibaly, Mendy and Ziyech are all garbage players that would command small fees...fully expect Chelsea to get over 100mil for that load of dross.

[clinical]

The 8 year contracts were bad enough. Chelsea are taking the piss.

Koulibaly, Mendy and Ziyech are all garbage players that would command small fees...fully expect Chelsea to get over 100mil for that load of dross.

PIF have interests in Chelsea and Newcastle. Surely that isn't allowed?

[Wghennessy]

PIF have interests in Chelsea and Newcastle. Surely that isn't allowed?

I dont think it matters anymore...money talks. The PL will destroy their own brand if this carries on especially if United arent taken over by the Qataris.

[BarryCrocker]

PIF have interests in Chelsea and Newcastle. Surely that isn't allowed?

The FA are opposed to Chelsea signing a kit sponsorship deal with Paramount Plus as it could upset the league's broadcast partners, but have no issue with Newcastle getting an extraordinary deal from Sela which is owned by PIF.

[Sharado]

PIF have interests in Chelsea and Newcastle. Surely that isn't allowed?

It's done, really, isn't it? Top Flight Football is just over as an entity. I don't think anything has happened in the last 12 months or so that would make you think the future of the game looks good.

[Wghennessy]

It's done, really, isn't it? Top Flight Football is just over as an entity. I don't think anything has happened in the last 12 months or so that would make you think the future of the game looks good.

I think it is personally yes. They opened the gates with the Newcastle owners and havent tried to close it since.

[rodderzzz]

They opened the gates well before Newcastle

[Wghennessy]

They opened the gates well before Newcastle

Oh i agree but with Newcastle they had an opportunity, having seen what has happened with City, to put their foot down and they didnt. The premier league is a mess and I cant see how they can fix it now.

[B0151?]

Oh i agree but with Newcastle they had an opportunity, having seen what has happened with City, to put their foot down and they didnt. The premier league is a mess and I cant see how they can fix it now.

I mean they had a chance to stop City after seeing what happened with Chelsea. Until the Ukraine war caught up with him it was a superb sportswashing/money laundering exercise by Roman...