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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #120 on: November 30, 2009, 09:41:24 am »
I tried to download some yesterday and people were saying "yeah, series 1 and series 2 are both on the first DVD", so I find myself wondering if I missed a series.

Isn't series 2 when the whole 'nutters' and Jamie thing started?

Series 1: six episodes, Chris Langham etc etc
Series 2: ??
Series 3: the series we're on now.

Wikipedia says Jamie came in during the first series, so why am I missing that in my mind?

There is Series 1 and the 'Specials' that are out on DVD!
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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #121 on: November 30, 2009, 10:19:58 am »
^Yeah which makes me think the current series is s2.

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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #122 on: November 30, 2009, 12:28:22 pm »
I tried to download some yesterday and people were saying "yeah, series 1 and series 2 are both on the first DVD", so I find myself wondering if I missed a series.

Isn't series 2 when the whole 'nutters' and Jamie thing started?

Series 1: six episodes, Chris Langham etc etc
Series 2: ??
Series 3: the series we're on now.

Wikipedia says Jamie came in during the first series, so why am I missing that in my mind?
Its because the first two series were only 3 episodes long and aired seperated by only a few months in 2005. So technically they were the same series, they were later repeated as the same series. And then there were the two specials in 2007, which could if you want be called the second, there were technically 3 episodes, but the times it was aired, months inbetween, really go against that. I daresay they have released all of the first 6 episodes on dvd as the first series, given they couldnt really put out a dvd with 3 episodes on it and call it a series.

So this is really the second series, but technically the third and its 8 episodes long. Fucking strange way of going about things really, as when they come to the dvd for this series they will have to call it the second.

Oh and in between we have In The Loop, with alot of the same characters, but with different names, just to confuse things even more :P
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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #123 on: November 30, 2009, 01:20:08 pm »
So Jamie only really came in for the specials?

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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #124 on: November 30, 2009, 01:49:11 pm »
So Jamie only really came in for the specials?

Jamie makes numerous appearances in the first series (including one of the funniest displays of physical violence in the workplace you'll see), but had a more prominent role in the two-part special.

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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #125 on: November 30, 2009, 10:40:45 pm »
A curly wurly should be the size of a small ladder.

That line had me in tears.

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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #126 on: November 30, 2009, 10:47:43 pm »
So Jamie only really came in for the specials?
Well if they are calling episodes 4-6 the second series, then thats when he came into it. But as they are releasing them on dvd labeled part of the first series, then he came into it in the first series. In effect the way they have done it is that he came into it in the second half of the first series.

Clear? ;D

They should make is simpler and do as IMDB have done, list the first six episodes as season 1, the specials as season 2, making the current showing season 3. Really I think this confusion is down to them not knowing if it was going to continue after langham got done for being a pervo. Otherwise I think the specials would of been what they were, with a more regular number of episodes making up a proper series/season based around them.
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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #127 on: December 1, 2009, 07:47:43 am »
I have to stop watching it. After watching all three sets of DVDs in quick succession I've developed a form of workplace tourettes and almost got myself into a spot of bother yesterday, ironically with a Press Office. :(

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« Reply #128 on: December 1, 2009, 09:44:35 pm »
I dunno why I forgot Jamie's appearance in the 4th show - got mixed up. NOMFUP.

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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #129 on: December 5, 2009, 11:06:30 pm »
To be continued...

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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #130 on: December 6, 2009, 12:23:32 am »
Last 5 mins of that episode = best tv I've ever seen.

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« Reply #131 on: December 6, 2009, 12:29:23 am »
Fucking great end to tonight's episode. This season has been boss.
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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #132 on: December 6, 2009, 12:31:47 am »
Amazing. Can't wait for the conclusion.

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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #133 on: December 6, 2009, 05:36:55 am »
Great episode yesterday. Cant wait until next week now!
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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #134 on: December 6, 2009, 08:31:40 am »
My missus came in at the end and she's hooked. Instantly: "is that supposed to be Alistair Campbell?".

Quality.

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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #135 on: December 6, 2009, 10:43:14 am »
Absolutely cracking TV. I wasn't sure about Nicola Murray as a character at first but she has been superb. Malcolm was immense (over-used word but fitting) in this episode.


Fleming to Murray - "Listen, sweetheart..."


Murray: Do not fucking call me sweetheart..."


Tucker: "I think you'll find that Steve was addressing me... the 'tache is a bit of a giveaway..."


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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #136 on: December 6, 2009, 11:44:22 am »
Brilliant bit of casting with David Haig as Fleming.

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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #137 on: December 6, 2009, 01:11:23 pm »
Just finished watching it - it was such a well written and well acted episode (especially by Capaldi) that I actually felt sorry for Tucker as he was shafted by the uber-nutters Julius and Fleming.

It was only when they switched back to the DoSAC office and they started having a party did it dawn on me how much he was feared elsewhere.

Loved Tucker's line after Julius became a Lord - 'you still drink coffee? - I thought it would be swan's blood for you now'
(To which Julius responded rather strangely 'now swan's blood that does sound nice')
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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #138 on: December 6, 2009, 04:34:09 pm »
Fuck a pot noodle, WHAT an episode!

And this year's BAFTA for best performance in a comedy goes to Peter Capaldi.

And what's this? The prize for the best writing in any capacity goes to Ianucci, Roche, Armstrong et al.

Wonderful stuff  :wellin

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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #139 on: December 7, 2009, 07:21:46 am »
I liked Nicola Murray's dread at the end, as if she's the only one who understands that MT, whilst abusive and borderline psychopathic, is the only thing holding the whole shower together, haha!

Better an honest psycho than a nutter wolf in sheep's clothing.

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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #140 on: December 7, 2009, 01:50:01 pm »
The best 30 minutes of television in living memory has inspired only ten comments on RAWK?

Come on people, WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COCK.

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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #141 on: December 7, 2009, 02:24:53 pm »
Quite right, Red Tsar.

What was very interesting was the reaction at DoSAC. Glen was the only one not celebrating - considering his run-in with Malcolm at the conference that was quite revealing. While the young ones like Olly and the useless ones like Terri were opening the wine, Glen quietly says 'should we be celebrating?' He clearly realises that while Malcolm was a bully, he got things done. Fleming looks like an empty suit.
Royhendo is spot on in that comment above.

Good to see Julius back, if only so that Malcolm could refer to him as 'Lord Baldemort'
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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #142 on: December 7, 2009, 02:51:39 pm »
I think Glen has, quietly, been the star of this current series. He has had two or three absolute killer lines. The line about those of an evil persuasion having a great work ethic was the best line this week. And nothing has topped his rapist and therapy simile. Top fucking class.
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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #143 on: December 7, 2009, 03:21:52 pm »
Also enjoyed the dig at the huns. Ianucci is a Celtic fan by all accounts.

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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #144 on: December 7, 2009, 03:54:34 pm »
I thought this episode was stunning in so many respects. It probably contained fewer laughs than any other to date in this series, but only to accommodate and focus on the (seeming) downfall of Malcolm. You could tell something major was afoot straight away when he was throwing the dinner party for his journo contacts - possibly out of character, and certainly bordering on desperation.

Loved the way the Fleming character managed to offend Nicola through his patronising comments and actions much more than Malcolm has ever managed through insults alone. She simply couldn't take in what was happening when she walked into the middle of "that scene" (should we be using spoilers in this thread?) and her reluctance to speak up when she had the chance will almost certainly be her own Waterloo.

Did anyone else pick up on the moment between Malcolm and his PA when, in his darkest hour and with everyone else in the scene losing their heads, he was trying to comfort her, showing a caring side which to this point hasn't been explored? (Actually, he - and Jamie - did the same for the cleaning lady in the specials, which demonstrates it's just politicians and civil servants for whom he reserves his disgust). Brilliantly subtle.

The biggest plaudit has to go to Ianucci for creating a monster who - were it a realife scenario and it happened to say, oh, I don't know, for the sake of arguing, Alastair Campbell, one would be celebrating with the rest of DoSAC - ellicits sympathy from the viewer, and not just because it could conceivably represent the end of the concept on which the show is based.

I'll say it again - Capaldi has turned in a performance of a lifetime for which he is a shoe-in to win any award going.

Forgive my indulgence. This was TV at its best.

Also enjoyed the dig at the huns. Ianucci is a Celtic fan by all accounts.

Well with a name like that etc.... sorry, wrong forum  :lickin

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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #145 on: December 7, 2009, 05:21:23 pm »
Did anyone else pick up on the moment between Malcolm and his PA when, in his darkest hour and with everyone else in the scene losing their heads, he was trying to comfort her, showing a caring side which to this point hasn't been explored? (Actually, he - and Jamie - did the same for the cleaning lady in the specials, which demonstrates it's just politicians and civil servants for whom he reserves his disgust). Brilliantly subtle.

That's been nicely woven in throughout hasn't it, the relationship with his PA - the way he feels comfortable being tongue in cheek with her - have some c*nt cake etc etc. Mostly she just smiles enigmatically at him.

What do you mean by "her Waterloo" by the way? Sorry for being thick. I'm guessing you mean "it'll be the death of her".

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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #146 on: December 7, 2009, 07:59:07 pm »
brilliant episode, can't wait for the conclusion. really hope its not the final ever episode.

Spent yesterday evening watching the two specials then In The Loop
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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #147 on: December 7, 2009, 09:43:04 pm »
Little Britain pulls in millions of viewers and this has 4 pages discussing.

Best comedy I have seen in years. End of discussion.
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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #148 on: December 7, 2009, 09:51:51 pm »
I have a to do list longing than a fucking Leonard Cohen song!
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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #149 on: December 8, 2009, 11:12:46 am »
What do you mean by "her Waterloo" by the way? Sorry for being thick. I'm guessing you mean "it'll be the death of her".

Yes, that's the metaphor I was reaching for  ;)

She has held onto her post as minister despite her incompetence and was too busy floundering with her personal life and general ineptitude to realise who was solely responsible for just about keeping her head above water. Malcolm was a far greater ally to her than she realised at the time.

But, hey, maybe this will dawn on her in the finale. And maybe it won't matter because her party will no longer be in power and it's boo to nanny Mannion time.

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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #150 on: December 8, 2009, 02:29:40 pm »
I do know what "eviscerated" means. ;)

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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #151 on: December 8, 2009, 02:33:03 pm »
I do know what "eviscerated" means. ;)

Because you've been using it colourfully in your dealings with that Press Office  :D

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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #152 on: December 8, 2009, 04:12:34 pm »
I hadn't realised there was bonus material specifically related to episode 7 on the BBC site

http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/extra/video/p005hdsm

Worth watching for some further insight from some of the cast, producer and one of the writers. Don't let the inclusion of a couple of MPs spoil it for you.

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« Reply #153 on: December 8, 2009, 05:17:34 pm »
Because you've been using it colourfully in your dealings with that Press Office  :D

I would like to, believe you me! (Apart from the tidy one.)

It does give you tourettes though. And it's becoming part of the language. A senior manager in here said to me two weeks ago when describing a colleague going off on a 'radgie' as we say up North "I said: 'I think I've just been Malcolm Tuckered'".

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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #154 on: December 8, 2009, 08:25:07 pm »


Spent yesterday evening watching the two specials then In The Loop
The two specials have made me laugh the most out of all the episodes to date.  The exchange between Malcolm, Jamie and and Olly in the first couple of minutes sets the tone and standard for the rest of the specials. 
Also, Glenn's 'I am a man' rant has got to be up there with Malcolms finest.  Terri patronising him straight after makes him seem even more ridiculous. 
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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #155 on: December 8, 2009, 08:43:26 pm »
Watched In the Loop for the first time the other day. Class! That scene with Gandolfini and Capaldi at the bar is just epic.
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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #156 on: December 9, 2009, 01:59:23 pm »
Fuck a pot noodle, WHAT an episode!

And this year's BAFTA for best performance in a comedy goes to Peter Capaldi.

And what's this? The prize for the best writing in any capacity goes to Ianucci, Roche, Armstrong et al.

Wonderful stuff  :wellin

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The ending was epic, can't wait for part 2.
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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #157 on: December 9, 2009, 03:40:45 pm »
It does give you tourettes though. And it's becoming part of the language. A senior manager in here said to me two weeks ago when describing a colleague going off on a 'radgie' as we say up North "I said: 'I think I've just been Malcolm Tuckered'".

I'm afraid I've fallen into this trap at the workplace - I'm clearly not too proud to pass off some epic Tucker putdowns as my own. The best of it is that you don't even have to use the demotic ones; the worst of it being you can only get away with using one once. Gutted that I wasted my "what are you doing out of your petri dish?" on a particularly despised fellow manager who didn't get the reference. But at least it proved my point  ::)

The two specials have made me laugh the most out of all the episodes to date.  The exchange between Malcolm, Jamie and and Olly in the first couple of minutes sets the tone and standard for the rest of the specials. 

Agreed. The "specials" remain my favourite episodes in terms of belly-laughs  :)

Watched In the Loop for the first time the other day. Class! That scene with Gandolfini and Capaldi at the bar is just epic.

The fictional-political equivalent of Frazier vs Ali!

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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #158 on: December 9, 2009, 04:20:46 pm »
I must get the DVD of the specials.
I think it took me 2 or 3 viewings to get exactly what was going on, especially with Malcolm's machinations.

The quality of the writing in it is unsurpassed in any other sitcom. Jamie's rants at Ollie and Julius (especially) have to be seen to be disbelieved.
Malcolm's line about 'the black dog of depression humping the new PM's leg so often he has to swallow anti-depressants like they're fucking smints' is superb.

And of course, Ben, Big Ben, Blinky Ben getting Paxo'ed. ('It's like watching a lion raping a sheep.. but in a bad way')

And in the midst of all the chaos, Terri is busy arranging her holiday and Glen and Julius are listening to an ashes batting collapse. Wonderful.

How can the same BBC make this and a 'sitcom' about a circus with Amanda bloody Holden?
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Re: The Thick of It
« Reply #159 on: December 9, 2009, 04:31:37 pm »
How can the same BBC make this and a 'sitcom' about a circus with Amanda bloody Holden?

Best not to even try to reconcile those facts, it will only upset you.