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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #160 on: December 1, 2010, 02:32:40 pm »
where has this story come from? is it some shit newspaper?

hes not going anywhere.

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #161 on: December 1, 2010, 02:34:06 pm »
There's no way that even Roy is that stupid to let Lucas go after the lad's been one of our best outfield players this season. I would assume that the reason why no contract negotiations have taken place is because we do not have a CEO as of yet. If NESV appoint one around new year as predicted, I can see the January transfer window being the first priority followed by contract negotiations. So, if Lucas still hasn't signed a new contract by March or so, I would start worrying. As of now, we just have to hope things improve on the pitch for us.
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Lucas is a fine player and one of the few intelligent players in our squad.  Unfortunately he's not English, which appears to be a requirement by Jamie Carragher Hodgson to get into our first team, so taken with Hodgson's obvious stupidity I wouldn't be remotely surprised if the old charlatan sold him in January.  The funds would come in very handy for a swoop on Carlton Cole after all

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #162 on: December 1, 2010, 02:36:52 pm »
I sometimes have nightmares where Lucas is sold off to a second tier side like Villareal then sold back after a few years to one of our rivals, Chelsea, Arsenal or the Mancs. Then all the doubters will see how good he really is.  :no

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #163 on: December 1, 2010, 02:40:56 pm »
No.
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #164 on: December 1, 2010, 02:45:05 pm »
Even Hodgson ain't stupid enough to sell him in January, he's been our best player of the season so far.
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??eV
« Reply #165 on: December 1, 2010, 02:57:21 pm »
Fuck no.

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #166 on: December 1, 2010, 03:06:45 pm »
he's been our best player of the season so far.

Couldn't agree more.. And also believe he can be our Xavi, his improving are just amazing.
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #167 on: December 1, 2010, 03:08:12 pm »
Lucas has it all in his locker,starting to look forward for the pass and usually finding it and looking good going forward himself,plus he looks like hes fast becoming a defensive midfield force,hes even harassing the opposition like Masc used too...i think he would sign a long contract if offered to be honest,i mean,hes only at the best club in the world,whatever the weather.

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #168 on: December 1, 2010, 03:32:01 pm »
We need to trim our wage bill, and as the likes of Carra, Cole, Konchesky and Poulsen are all sitting on massive long term contracts then you can guess who'll be offered a shite new deal (which he won't sign).

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #169 on: December 1, 2010, 03:36:13 pm »
We need to trim our wage bill, and as the likes of Carra, Cole, Konchesky and Poulsen are all sitting on massive long term contracts then you can guess who'll be offered a shite new deal (which he won't sign).

And by getting rid of Lucas & Poulson, leaves us with Gerrard (and maybe Miereles) for CM?

Would you be happy with that

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #170 on: December 1, 2010, 03:37:38 pm »
Lucas for me is 'the' most important member of our squad now. He's in same category as Gerrard, Torres, Pepe, Agger and Raul.

Category 'A':
Gerrard, Torres, Pepe, Lucas, Raul, Agger, Aquilani

Category 'B':
Johnson, Skrtel, Kuyt, Cole

Category 'C':
Carra, Soto, Aurelio, Insua, Maxi, Ngog

Category 'D':
Poulsen, Konchesky, Roy Hodgson

Youngsters (No Category required, some can slot straight into 'B' category):
Wilson, Jonjo, Spearing, Kelly, Pacheco

Skrtel in kategory B? :D ...

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #171 on: December 1, 2010, 03:51:27 pm »
And by getting rid of Lucas & Poulson, leaves us with Gerrard (and maybe Miereles) for CM?

Would you be happy with that

Poulsen is going nowhere.
I won't be happy with Lucas leaving, he's a great player.

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #172 on: December 1, 2010, 03:55:37 pm »
Had we still got Alonso and Mascherano, I'd sell Lucas.

Meireles is a much better player, and obviously Gerrard is too.

We need better than this guy in the centre of the park, despite his improvement, if we want to get back to the top four.

He's nowhere near as good as Alonso or Mascherano and that is the standard we need.
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #173 on: December 1, 2010, 03:58:31 pm »
Can't describe how pissed off I'd be if we sold him.

Get the lad a new contract.

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #174 on: December 1, 2010, 03:59:16 pm »

Poulsen is a much better player.

We need better than this guy in the centre of the park, despite his improvement, if we want to get back to the top four
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Selling Lucas would be absolutely mental, is an excellent CM right now, and will only get better.
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #175 on: December 1, 2010, 03:59:34 pm »
What do I think about it?

If he's sold in January, it will be a fucking disgrace. Sell him at all, fucking disgrace.

Give him a new contract, sharpish!

 

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #176 on: December 1, 2010, 04:00:08 pm »


Poulsen is a much better player,
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That's clearly not true hence why Lucas is starting for us even with Roy, poulsen's biggest fan, as our manager.

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #177 on: December 1, 2010, 04:04:28 pm »
Lucas for me is 'the' most important member of our squad now. He's in same category as Gerrard, Torres, Pepe, Agger and Raul.

Category 'A':
Gerrard, Torres, Pepe, Lucas, Raul, Agger, Aquilani

Category 'B':
Johnson, Skrtel, Kuyt, Cole

Category 'C':
Carra, Soto, Aurelio, Insua, Maxi, Ngog

Category 'D':
Poulsen, Konchesky, Roy Hodgson

Youngsters (No Category required, some can slot straight into 'B' category):
Wilson, Jonjo, Spearing, Kelly, Pacheco

A: Gerrard, Torres, Reina, Carragher, Agger.
B: Meireles, Cole, Kuyt, Johnson, Skrtel.
C: Maxi, N'Gog, Lucas, Kyrgiakos.
D: Poulsen, Konchesky, Insua, Spearing, Aurelio, Jones.
X: Wilson, Shelvey, Pacheco, Eccleston, Aquilani.

I'd still have Carragher as a top bracket player for his leadership, organisation and never-say-die defending.

I'd have Aquilani in the unclassified as he's never had a proper chance here and is out on loan.

Maxi is too inconsistent to be B and Joe Cole is surely good enough to be in that bracket, possibly A, despite his slow start.

Meireles could be a top bracket if he keeps up the good progress. Kuyt's lack of goals and assists keeps him in the B despite his non-stop hard work. N'Gog and Lucas just aren't regular material for me and are a sign of our recent times. I don't agree with the praise being heaped on Lucas, but I think he has improved steadily and would like to see him continue to do so and prove me wrong by actually being as good as people are claiming. Kyrgiakos is still a C for me as he is erratic and not really up to it despite his swashbuckling performances.

Konchesky and Poulsen are as about as good on the field as Hodgson is with tactics and are direct representatives of him on the pitch.
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #178 on: December 1, 2010, 04:04:54 pm »
Poulsen a better player! now ive heard it all.

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #179 on: December 1, 2010, 04:05:34 pm »
That's clearly not true hence why Lucas is starting for us even with Roy, poulsen's biggest fan, as our manager.

Sorry...I meant to write Meireles! Poulsen is a dog.
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #180 on: December 1, 2010, 04:17:31 pm »
Skrtel in kategory B? :D ...
Yes..he needs to be consistent enough to prove  himself as an 'A' player.

Here's more updated list by the way:

Category 'A':
Gerrard, Torres, Pepe, Lucas, Raul, Agger, Aquilani

Category 'B':
Johnson, Skrtel, Kuyt, Cole

Category 'C':
Carra, Soto, Aurelio, Insua, Maxi, Ngog, Jova

Category 'Z':
Poulsen, Konchesky, Roy Hodgson


Unclassified/Youngsters (No Category required, some can slot straight into 'B', 'C' categories):
Wilson, Jonjo, Spearing, Kelly, Pacheco, Eccleston

Note: Brad Jones doesn't qualify for any category.

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #181 on: December 1, 2010, 04:19:28 pm »
I wouldn't sell Lucas, he's one of our better players.

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #182 on: December 1, 2010, 04:25:47 pm »
if he goes in january
i will fly to anfield from usa and start a protest, i am quite serious about this roy

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #183 on: December 1, 2010, 04:34:16 pm »
Makes no sense whatsoever to sell him, better be offered a new contract soon.
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #184 on: December 1, 2010, 04:40:53 pm »
No, its funny(well actually it isnt) been lucky enough to go most matches this season. Couldn't make it to spurs though, so in the pub and Lucas made a slight mistake, about 4 fellas jumped on him straight away, anyway he wins back straight away, just give them all a glance. Armchairs seem to be the type to listen and watch every form of medium, they want to.start fuckin judging the game themselves instead of jumping on rickety bandwagons. Lucas gets it, he applies himself to every game,and sometimes is bypassed and suffers when gerrard demands a lot of the ball, he's vastly becoming my favourite player at Liverpool. It'd be criminal to let go of this prestigious talent
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #185 on: December 1, 2010, 05:14:22 pm »
I sometimes have nightmares where Lucas is sold off to a second tier side like Villareal then sold back after a few years to one of our rivals

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #186 on: December 1, 2010, 05:16:47 pm »
Definitely not. I was disappointed he had to play so many games last season but he is more than an excellent squad player.

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #187 on: December 1, 2010, 05:16:56 pm »
nope....are we done here?
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #188 on: December 1, 2010, 05:17:18 pm »
probably best player of season, has still loads of improvement in him. No coincidence he ahs improved since Masch left as it has gave him extra responsibilty and a clearer role. Several doubters have been silenced around me this season, thats for sure

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #189 on: December 1, 2010, 05:18:11 pm »
One of our best players this season so no Fucking way.

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #190 on: December 1, 2010, 05:18:52 pm »
You know had you asked me this at the beginning of the 2009/2010 season it would have been a resounding yes! Sell him get shot now and maybe try re-coupe any money we had spent on him. Come the end of the season the lad turned me completely around. And I had to hold up my hands and apologize and admit I was wrong. This boy deserves to put on the red shirt every game. The amount of abuse (sometimes from me I admit, although I don't think I hurled personal abuse at him) he has taken over the years and the way he has risen above it all and proved he has the commitment and skills to play at this club is a credit to him.

I hope he does great things at Liverpool, and I happy to say he turned me around. Well in lad!
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #191 on: December 1, 2010, 05:22:14 pm »
Not a chanc, not unless we had a midfield dynamo in the pipeline.  He has been great this season and seems to be improving all the time.  He loves the club and gives 110 % everygame.  There are players at Liverpool who dont show half the passion and determination that he does and at this moment in time we simply can not afford to offload players like that.
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #192 on: December 1, 2010, 05:23:51 pm »
lucas has been our best player this season

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #193 on: December 1, 2010, 05:24:16 pm »
Our best player this season, would be seriously pissed off if it is even being considered that he is being sold. Really get the feeling Lucas loves this club too though and that goes along way in itself. Very bright future for him,just hope its with us.
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #194 on: December 1, 2010, 05:24:45 pm »
Even Hodgson ain't stupid enough to sell him in January, he's been our best player of the season so far.

Why not it will be he is homesick, he is wants to play somewhere else, he won't sign a new deal blah blah blah.

He is free to sign a pre-contract agreement in twelve months and we haven't even offered him a new deal yet.
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #195 on: December 1, 2010, 05:28:35 pm »
No. Definitely not.
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #197 on: December 1, 2010, 05:33:11 pm »
Why not it will be he is homesick, he is wants to play somewhere else, he won't sign a new deal blah blah blah.He is free to sign a pre-contract agreement in twelve months and we haven't even offered him a new deal yet.

On the first bit Al, it's the price you pay with most Spanish/Hispanic players historically.

I don't know whether after three years he fancies a bit of sun on his back again- burt we should certainly do all we can to keep him. Do you know where he sits on the wage scale?
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #198 on: December 1, 2010, 05:38:56 pm »
Definitely, definitely not, he has come on miles in the last couple of seasons, has a great mentality and is becoming a key player for us.

Plus the Mrs. has just bought me a shirt with Lucas on the back for Christmas :)
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #199 on: December 1, 2010, 05:47:17 pm »
Lucas is the sort of player that NESV want to buy, young,talented and relative low cost initially. They arent afraid of higher wages so that isnt a problem and the way he has blossomed as a player this year is a real credit to him and the club for keeping going with him. Maybe the moral of the story should be that we as fans shouldnt be so fickle when a young player is having a bad time. I am as guilty as many of going "oh no not Lucas" before this season and I am happy to eat humble pie. GET IN LUCAS!!!!!!!!!!!
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