Topic: Youth and Under 23 Thread

[Chris~]

Another odd choice of time for the u18s. Playing Tuesday night so there's not going to be any live coverage.

[OOS]

Premier League statement on entry requirements for overseas players post Brexit: "The number of overseas U21 players a club can sign will be limited to three in the Jan transfer window and six per season. Clubs will not be able to sign overseas players until they are 18."

All new signings from European Union nations will require a work permit that will be allocated on a points-based system. Big news

Ed Aarons, Guardian.

[Chris~]

If that's the same for English players going abroad that's a much worse deal for the FA than Premier League clubs in terms of youth development.

[HopefulRed]

Interesting (perhaps) that Billy has dropped back down to the U18s in their match tonight v Burnley. 

[HopefulRed]

And Billy scores, that’ll do him some good.  Also Cannonier.  2-0

[rafathegaffa83]

Premier League statement on entry requirements for overseas players post Brexit: "The number of overseas U21 players a club can sign will be limited to three in the Jan transfer window and six per season. Clubs will not be able to sign overseas players until they are 18."

All new signings from European Union nations will require a work permit that will be allocated on a points-based system. Big news

Ed Aarons, Guardian.

However


tariq panja@tariqpanja
Some clubs can get around this by partnering with smaller foreign teams and particularly those that are part of multi club models. Could sign players under 18 and those that don’t immediately meet criteria.

[harleydanger]

We’re bringing through a fuckload of quality kids right now.

[jillcwhomever]

The under 18’s are taking on Man United at 11.00am.

[dutchkop]

However


tariq panja@tariqpanja
Some clubs can get around this by partnering with smaller foreign teams and particularly those that are part of multi club models. Could sign players under 18 and those that don’t immediately meet criteria.

But if the youth players come in later to UK  after they turn 18, then they do not qualify for local homegrown player status. Which means less European players at English clubs.

English clubs will start doing what Barca & Real do - bring in the whole family when the kids are teenagers. But a lot more risky and expensive punt on getting the talent into the local club youth system.

It could mean smaller international talent at English clubs eventually

[Chris~]

How many foreign born players actually have home grown status for clubs? It must make up a tiny amount of the overall number of registered players. I just can't see that being too big of an issue for clubs to put them off the multi-club development model of that's the way it goes.

U18s are on lfctv against Manchester United. Kickoff 1130.

Team:
https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1335170802472333312?s=19

[jillcwhomever]

Looks like Stewart with dovetail between the under 18's and 23's this season. It will be a test this game as United have some good form themselves so far.

[HopefulRed]

U23s not playing this weekend, unless an unadvertised game, so Stewart can drop back down.  Amazed to see Blair back on the bench.  Assumed the injury earlier this year was a really serious one. 

[jillcwhomever]

We had all the early play yet United nick the lead with their first attack.

[jillcwhomever]

United getting away with every challenge as usual. We should have had a corner before after their goalie touched the ball but got nothing. We are playing much better in the last ten minutes, need to get Frauendorf on the ball more, he always looks dangerous. Corness was unlucky with a freekick which hit the crossbar.

[jillcwhomever]

United go 2 up, another smash and grab by the jammy arses. But we are making hard work of it on ourselves.

[HopefulRed]

I’ll actually be quite glad when Billy goes off at half time.  I rather think he needs to stop training with the firsts because he doesn’t look like he’s really really trying and really concentrating on who he is meant to be marking. 

[Chris~]

Playing better overall than we did Vs City, but still looks like it'll end up in a similar result

[jillcwhomever]

I’ll actually be quite glad when Billy goes off at half time.  I rather think he needs to stop training with the firsts because he doesn’t look like he’s really really trying and really concentrating on who he is meant to be marking.

I have to be honest about this, but whenever I have seen him, he has rarely impressed me. I know Klopp seems to have a lot of hope for him but at this level he just doesn't do things well enough.

[Chris~]

I’ll actually be quite glad when Billy goes off at half time.  I rather think he needs to stop training with the firsts because he doesn’t look like he’s really really trying and really concentrating on who he is meant to be marking.

Yeah he's really not played well at all in the academy matches so far this year.

[jillcwhomever]

Playing better overall than we did Vs City, but still looks like it'll end up in a similar result

If we improve our final ball, we could do a lot better, that has been our main failing in this game. We have got in good positions but either the last ball doesn't reach us or its wildly overhit.

[jillcwhomever]

2-1 Stewart from a fantastic Tyler Morton pass.

[Chris~]

What a goal from Stewart. Would love to see him going with the first team vs midtjylland

[jillcwhomever]

Get in!! 2-2 Tyler Morton after the United goalie let go of the ball.

[Chris~]

Wow. Keeper drops a Corness corner and tapped in 2-2. Charlie Adam wishes his set pieces were as good

[Crosby Nick]

Well in lads!

[jillcwhomever]

I didn't realise Frauendorf was so young only 16 and he can already play in multiple positions. He's had a really good second half and was one of the better ones in the first as well.

[Theoldkopite]

I didn't realise Frauendorf was so young only 16 and he can already play in multiple positions. He's had a really good second half and was one of the better ones in the first as well.

2-3 good comeback by the young reds!!

[jillcwhomever]

Stewart again, he just can't miss in this form.

[Theoldkopite]

3-3 

[jillcwhomever]

3-3 

Its such an open game it could be anything. I think the game ended up 4-3 to us last season.

[disgraced cake]

Get Layton Stewart playing in the week 

Surprised he isn't playing U23 games given his excellent scoring record at U18s level

[Theoldkopite]

Bugger! 4-3 to the Mancs.

[jillcwhomever]

Another mistake at the back, 4-3. Why are we playing so mad, we need better control. So many of these United goals have come from mis-placed passes. They've barely had to work for the goals they've scored. 

[Theoldkopite]

Just one of those days I think. They’ve only played in fits and starts.

[terry_macss_perm]

Get Layton Stewart playing in the week 

Surprised he isn't playing U23 games given his excellent scoring record at U18s level

Played last week in the 7-2 loss to Man C I think.

[Dan The Man 28373]

Played last week in the 7-2 loss to Man C I think.

Yeah played 75 mins.

[Chris~]

On the stretch but Stephenson should have really made it 4-4 in stoppage time. Disappointing after going for 0-2 to 3-2 but we let them back in to easily. Good, exciting game though

[jillcwhomever]

I’ll actually be quite glad when Billy goes off at half time.  I rather think he needs to stop training with the firsts because he doesn’t look like he’s really really trying and really concentrating on who he is meant to be marking.

There are rumours going around he could get to play in the European game, I hope he doesn't don't feel he is anywhere near enough ready and he stunk the place out in the first half.

[disgraced cake]

Played last week in the 7-2 loss to Man C I think.

Ah, didn't see that. Bad result but at least he got some time at that level and might continue to do so.

On the topic of the European game, can some of the younger lads play despite not being registered? It's a perfect time to give them games, with the result not being too important and rests being needed for usual starters. The likes of Cain and Clarkson have been on the bench for a couple so I think they start.

[Chris~]

Ah, didn't see that. Bad result but at least he got some time at that level and might continue to do so.

On the topic of the European game, can some of the younger lads play despite not being registered? It's a perfect time to give them games, with the result not being too important and rests being needed for usual starters. The likes of Cain and Clarkson have been on the bench for a couple so I think they start.

Yeah, they can be registered to the B list, as long as they've spent 2+ years here, at pretty much any time