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Re: Prince Phillip has died
« Reply #760 on: April 18, 2021, 11:40:45 pm »
Is that a joke question?

What's your answer?
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Re: Prince Phillip has died
« Reply #761 on: April 18, 2021, 11:59:49 pm »
What's your answer?


I'm not sure the question deserves one, but I'll answer anyway. No.
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Re: Prince Phillip has died
« Reply #762 on: April 19, 2021, 12:28:16 am »


I'm not sure the question deserves one, but I'll answer anyway. No.

So you tell me that a state with an elected head of state, elected by the British people, is a good thing, as long as you don't have to experience it, and as long as it's we Brits who have to experience it. The British voters aren't anything to be worried about, whoever we elect, as long as it's us who have to live under whatever theoretical regime you say is good for us, and not you.
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Re: Prince Phillip has died
« Reply #763 on: April 19, 2021, 12:38:04 am »
So you tell me that a state with an elected head of state, elected by the British people, is a good thing, as long as you don't have to experience it, and as long as it's we Brits who have to experience it. The British voters aren't anything to be worried about, whoever we elect, as long as it's us who have to live under whatever theoretical regime you say is good for us, and not you.

Well we were talking about Ireland initially. Where the head of state is a ceremonial role with no real power. Who is voted for every 7 years by the public. Do I think that is better than having a ceremonial head of state that is born in to the position then yes I do.

And just for a moment step back and reflect on the question you just asked an Irish person. Would you like to be ruled by the Brits again? What kind of answer were you expecting? If I gave you a comprehensive answer I'd have been banned.

What do you do if the member of the royal family who happens to win the family lottery and is head of your country is an absolute wrongun. Can you vote them out? No.

And there's been plenty of wronguns throughout the years.

Just to add, we don't even have to be part of the same state as ye for the idiotic decisions of yer leaders to to still impact us. All I have to do is look about 500km up the road to see it in action.
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Re: Prince Phillip has died
« Reply #764 on: April 19, 2021, 02:41:32 am »
Well we were talking about Ireland initially. Where the head of state is a ceremonial role with no real power. Who is voted for every 7 years by the public. Do I think that is better than having a ceremonial head of state that is born in to the position then yes I do.

And just for a moment step back and reflect on the question you just asked an Irish person. Would you like to be ruled by the Brits again? What kind of answer were you expecting? If I gave you a comprehensive answer I'd have been banned.

What do you do if the member of the royal family who happens to win the family lottery and is head of your country is an absolute wrongun. Can you vote them out? No.

And there's been plenty of wronguns throughout the years.

Just to add, we don't even have to be part of the same state as ye for the idiotic decisions of yer leaders to to still impact us. All I have to do is look about 500km up the road to see it in action.

You're right, we can't vote them out. But we at least have a good idea of who is going to be the head of state, and they're at least not as bad as whom and what we've been electing and voting for in recent years. I stated that your system may be good with your set of voters, and you said that your system should be good with our set of voters too, which I disagree with. You're describing something that you're happy with since you have your given electorate, which is the key to making your system work. You said that it wouldn't make any difference with our electorate either.

So I posited a situation where both of us could experience your system, as you've suggested, with your and our electorates combined. And predictably, you're happy for our voters to vote for a president that you don't have to experience.

Nope, I'm not particularly enthusiastic about royals being ceremonial head of state. But I'd rather have the ones closest in line than the prospect of President Johnson or Farage.
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Re: Prince Phillip has died
« Reply #765 on: April 19, 2021, 11:18:15 am »
You're right, we can't vote them out. But we at least have a good idea of who is going to be the head of state, and they're at least not as bad as whom and what we've been electing and voting for in recent years. I stated that your system may be good with your set of voters, and you said that your system should be good with our set of voters too, which I disagree with. You're describing something that you're happy with since you have your given electorate, which is the key to making your system work. You said that it wouldn't make any difference with our electorate either.

So I posited a situation where both of us could experience your system, as you've suggested, with your and our electorates combined. And predictably, you're happy for our voters to vote for a president that you don't have to experience.

Nope, I'm not particularly enthusiastic about royals being ceremonial head of state. But I'd rather have the ones closest in line than the prospect of President Johnson or Farage.

No you asked an Irish person would they be happy under British rule. Again, just think about that for a second, what answer were you expecting.

Why have a democracy at all so? If you're not happy with who the British public are electing scrap your parliament and just have the royals rule ye again.
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Re: Prince Phillip has died
« Reply #766 on: April 19, 2021, 02:49:48 pm »
No you asked an Irish person would they be happy under British rule. Again, just think about that for a second, what answer were you expecting.

Why have a democracy at all so? If you're not happy with who the British public are electing scrap your parliament and just have the royals rule ye again.

Whenever I see this version of 'you' I think of Bishop Brennan.

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Re: Prince Phillip has died
« Reply #767 on: April 19, 2021, 04:20:38 pm »
Whenever I see this version of 'you' I think of Bishop Brennan.

Sorry, I don't speak the queen's English  :P
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Re: Prince Phillip has died
« Reply #768 on: April 20, 2021, 09:05:25 am »

No you asked an Irish person would they be happy under British rule. Again, just think about that for a second, what answer were you expecting.

Well, FG they have now had the seconds add up to amount another day in the history books.

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Re: Prince Phillip has died
« Reply #769 on: April 20, 2021, 09:13:45 am »
Well, FG they have now had the seconds add up to amount another day in the history books.

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Quoi?
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Re: Prince Phillip has died
« Reply #770 on: April 20, 2021, 09:20:39 am »

Cad?

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Re: Prince Phillip has died
« Reply #771 on: April 20, 2021, 09:27:43 am »
Cad?


Are you going to explain your above comment?
"i just dont think (Lucas is) that type of player that Kenny wants"
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Re: Prince Phillip has died
« Reply #772 on: April 20, 2021, 09:29:05 am »

Je ne sais pas ce que font les enfants.

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Re: Prince Phillip has died
« Reply #773 on: May 3, 2021, 12:41:37 am »
Fuck the £200 million yacht.

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Re: Prince Phillip has died
« Reply #774 on: May 3, 2021, 01:03:51 pm »
Dont worry about the yacht, it will never happen. It is 100% bullshit posturing.

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Re: Prince Phillip has died
« Reply #775 on: May 3, 2021, 06:07:04 pm »
I remember Portillo announcing Brittania would be replaced at a cost of £60m, drawn from the national reserve.  Then 1997 happened, thank goodness.

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Re: Prince Phillip has died
« Reply #776 on: May 8, 2021, 11:37:22 pm »
Sunday Times tomorrow leading with an article re Prince Michael of Kent selling access to Putinís government. 

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Re: Prince Phillip has died
« Reply #777 on: May 9, 2021, 12:12:21 am »
No you asked an Irish person would they be happy under British rule. Again, just think about that for a second, what answer were you expecting.



Better to be ruled by Brussels?
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Re: Prince Phillip has died
« Reply #778 on: May 9, 2021, 12:45:02 am »
Better to be ruled by Brussels?
Oh look, a brexit head.

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Re: Prince Phillip has died
« Reply #779 on: May 9, 2021, 09:39:01 am »
Oh look, a brexit head.

Far from it. Nice if you to jump to conclusions.
First of all I am not British. Secondly I am pro European.

Ireland has chosen some good presidents, however the list of candidates for the 2011 election left a lot to be desired. A Dodgy dragon den chancer versus a pseudo socialist and the head of the ira.
In 2018 the dodgy dragon den chancer was joined by more dragon den wastrels.

 
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Re: Prince Phillip has died
« Reply #780 on: May 9, 2021, 09:59:54 am »
Far from it. Nice if you to jump to conclusions.
First of all I am not British. Secondly I am pro European.

Ireland has chosen some good presidents, however the list of candidates for the 2011 election left a lot to be desired. A Dodgy dragon den chancer versus a pseudo socialist and the head of the ira.
In 2018 the dodgy dragon den chancer was joined by more dragon den wastrels.

What's that got to do with Brussels? It's not an either/or situation.

Do you consider EU member countries to be "ruled by Brussels"?

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Re: Prince Phillip has died
« Reply #781 on: May 9, 2021, 10:38:14 am »
What's that got to do with Brussels? It's not an either/or situation.

Do you consider EU member countries to be "ruled by Brussels"?

This is a thread to honour the passing of Prince Philip.
Somehow it derailed into an opportunity to attack the idea of monarchy.
To set the Irish presidency as some sort of great alternative is laughable.
Sean Gallagher came very close to becoming President ffs.

Irish budgetary policy was signed off by the EU from 2009 to 2014.
So yes I do believe that Brussels has plenty of control and influence over the smaller members.
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/html/irish-letters.en.html
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Re: Prince Phillip has died
« Reply #782 on: May 9, 2021, 10:41:20 am »
This is a thread to honour the passing of Prince Philip.
Somehow it derailed into an opportunity to attack the idea of monarchy.
To set the Irish presidency as some sort of great alternative is laughable.
Sean Gallagher came very close to becoming President ffs.

Irish budgetary policy was signed off by the EU from 2009 to 2014.
So yes I do believe that Brussels has plenty of control and influence over the smaller members.
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/html/irish-letters.en.html

Right but why iwould you ask if someone would prefer being ruled by Brussels?

It's not an either/or. Whoever we, or Ireland or whoever has as head of state is unrealted to whether you are in the EU.

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Re: Prince Phillip has died
« Reply #783 on: May 9, 2021, 10:45:28 am »
This is a thread to honour the passing of Prince Philip.
Somehow it derailed into an opportunity to attack the idea of monarchy.
To set the Irish presidency as some sort of great alternative is laughable.
Sean Gallagher came very close to becoming President ffs.

Irish budgetary policy was signed off by the EU from 2009 to 2014.
So yes I do believe that Brussels has plenty of control and influence over the smaller members.
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/html/irish-letters.en.html
Itís not really.

Itís just about him dying.
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Re: Prince Phillip has died
« Reply #784 on: May 9, 2021, 04:25:56 pm »
Itís not really.

Itís just about him dying.


:)
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Re: Prince Phillip has died
« Reply #785 on: May 9, 2021, 07:32:23 pm »
Itís not really.

Itís just about him dying.


Is Prince Philip dead?
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Re: Prince Phillip has died
« Reply #786 on: May 9, 2021, 07:55:09 pm »
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Re: Prince Phillip has died
« Reply #788 on: May 9, 2021, 09:11:07 pm »
This is a thread to honour the passing of Prince Philip.

Ha ha ha.

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Re: Prince Phillip has died
« Reply #789 on: May 9, 2021, 09:13:14 pm »
Ha ha ha.

You really don't have a clue.
See, the way I saw it, it was just to mark his death.

Iíve always seen him as an historical figure. Heís been around so long and he marks the period from WWII to present day.

But I was fully aware there would be a range of opinions about him.
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Re: Prince Phillip has died
« Reply #790 on: May 9, 2021, 09:39:21 pm »
See, the way I saw it, it was just to mark his death.

Iíve always seen him as an historical figure. Heís been around so long and he marks the period from WWII to present day.

But I was fully aware there would be a range of opinions about him.

You made the point far more succinctly than I did.
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Re: Prince Phillip has died
« Reply #791 on: May 9, 2021, 09:41:23 pm »
I can only assume Mickey hasn't read tha vast majority of the thread.  ;D