PPS The United fan; You may have the best defence but WE have the best goalie - he's won the Golden Gloves in the past THREE seasons and thus is indisputably better than VDS and Skrtel and Agger are younger that means they WILL be better than Rio and Vidic (who only have 2/3 seasons left as a top level partnership) it's a matter of time that's all.
might be old but I have to pick up on this rubbish, they are younger so they will definitely develop into better players/partnership than Rio/Vidic, what absolute tosh. How do you know they haven't reached their peak already, that they'll even be at your club in 2 years time, that they won't get niggling injuries that affect development. It isn't as simple as football manager peak at the age of 28-32 for a defender.
As for this 'golden gloves' award, I'd never even heard of it before reading RAWK, fact is reina has far fewer shots to deal with than the other keepers in the league due to liverpools defensive style/setup.