Topic: COVID-19:VERIFIED news sources, 0 politishit, 0 CONSPIRACY SHITE

[TepidT2O]

820 new cases today....

Let’s hope that’s a one off....

[So… Howard Philips]

820 new cases today....

Let’s hope that’s a one off....

That's a big leap. I know the rolling average is the best measure but that figure is worrying.

Well we may worry but the Government won't.

[CraigDS]

820 new cases today....

Let’s hope that’s a one off....

We’ve clearly tested too many people. Need to drop that number again.

[west_london_red]

820 new cases today....

Let’s hope that’s a one off....

Wait another day or two and we’ll see the results from last weekend’s ongoings assuming by then people have enough time to show symptoms, gets tested and get the results.

[ShakaHislop]

Dozens of Florida hospitals max out of ICU capacity amid surge in COVID-19 cases

Dozens of hospitals in Florida are at their ICU capacity as the state struggles to contain its massive spike of COVID-19 cases.

According to new data released by the state's Agency for Health Care Administration, almost 85 percent of the state's ICU beds are occupied, with just 933 ICU available beds remaining across the state.

WFLA reported that 435 were hospitalized overnight Friday, a new record. At least 52 hospitals in the state have no ICU capacity left at all.

During a Friday press conference, Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) tried to assuage fears over the mounting hospitalizations.

“We’ve got the census today. I think between 10 and 12 or 13 thousand — somewhere like that — beds are available,” DeSantis said. “There’ll be articles saying, ‘Oh, my gosh. They’re at 90 percent.’ Well, that’s how hospitals normally run.”

The governor noted that he was sending 100 contract nurses to Tampa Bay to assist area hospitals.

https://thehill.com/homenews/coronavirus-report/506881-dozens-of-florida-hospitals-max-out-of-icu-capacity-amid-surge-in

[PaulF]

We’ve clearly tested too many people. Need to drop that number again.

Until I saw your comment, I thought it was new deaths.
Guess for now we are headed the right way.

[So… Howard Philips]

Until I saw your comment, I thought it was new deaths.
Guess for now we are headed the right way.

It was 520 yesterday so quite a large increase.

[Clint Eastwood]

820 new cases today....

Let’s hope that’s a one off....

One of those is me. Sorry.

[TepidT2O]

One of those is me. Sorry.

God... sorry to hear that mate...

Hope you aren’t feeling too rough...

[Clint Eastwood]

God... sorry to hear that mate...

Hope you aren’t feeling too rough...

Cheers mate. Symptoms are very mild. I only got tested because of my job. Being in my 20's and healthy I'm very fortunate.

[jambutty]

Newsweek
Patient Dies After Going to 'COVID Party,' Thought It Was a Hoax: Official
Eddy Rodriguez 
45 mins ago

A person in their 30s died in south Texas after attending a "COVID party," thinking it was a hoax, according to a health care official.

Jane Appleby, chief medical officer for Methodist Healthcare in San Antonio, said in a recorded statement to News 4 San Antonio that she heard a "heartbreaking" story about a 30-year-old patient who attended a COVID party.

"This is a party held by somebody diagnosed with the COVID virus and the thought is that people get together to see if the virus is real and if anyone gets infected," Appleby said. "Just before the patient died, they looked at their nurse and said 'I think I made a mistake, I thought this was a hoax, but it's not.'"

"This is just one example of a potentially avoidable death of a young member in our community and I can't imagine the loss in the family," the doctor said, adding that there are multiple patients in their 20s and 30s in critical condition due to the novel coronavirus.

Appleby said she released details of this case to show no one is "invincible" from COVID-19 that is adversely younger people.

"It doesn't discriminate and none of us are invincible. I don't want to be an alarmist and we're just trying to share some real-world examples to help our community realize that this virus is very serious and can spread easily," Appleby said.

Newsweek reached out to San Antonio health officials for comment, but did not receive a response back in time for publication.

So-called "COVID parties" have been an issue across the United States with younger people. Students from the University of Alabama organized multiple COVID parties to see who would get infected first, according to Tuscaloosa City Councilor Sonya McKinstry.

"They put money in a pot and they try to get COVID. Whoever gets COVID first gets the pot. It makes no sense...They're intentionally doing it," McKinstry said in an interview with ABC News July 1.

A North Carolina nurse said multiple patients attended COVID parties to intentionally try catch the virus. Yolanda Enrich, a nurse practitioner, said in a May interview with KOAT Action 7 News that medical professionals were worried "because not everyone that becomes infected with the virus produces antibodies."

"We have heard from a lot of patients and the community that they're unafraid of getting the virus, so people are actually out and about trying to get the virus – attending gatherings, parties – just trying to maximize their chances of exposure," Enrich said.

North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper commented on the trend, calling it "completely irresponsible and absolutely unacceptable" at the time.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/patient-dies-after-going-to-covid-party-thought-it-was-a-hoax-official/ar-BB16CCy8?ocid=msedgntp

[TSC]

Newsweek
Patient Dies After Going to 'COVID Party,' Thought It Was a Hoax: Official
Eddy Rodriguez 
45 mins ago

A person in their 30s died in south Texas after attending a "COVID party," thinking it was a hoax, according to a health care official.

Jane Appleby, chief medical officer for Methodist Healthcare in San Antonio, said in a recorded statement to News 4 San Antonio that she heard a "heartbreaking" story about a 30-year-old patient who attended a COVID party.

"This is a party held by somebody diagnosed with the COVID virus and the thought is that people get together to see if the virus is real and if anyone gets infected," Appleby said. "Just before the patient died, they looked at their nurse and said 'I think I made a mistake, I thought this was a hoax, but it's not.'"

Darwin awards party springs to mind. 

[Jshooters]

Darwin awards party springs to mind.

I had exactly that thought when reading the article

[TSC]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/11/revealed-20-areas-at-most-risk-of-local-lockdowns

[[new username under construction]]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/11/revealed-20-areas-at-most-risk-of-local-lockdowns

I think it's best just to stop reading papers/online now. They are jumping on everything to get clicks, better to just use official data/numbers and rolling averages to see what's happening

[Guz-kop]

Dozens of Florida hospitals max out of ICU capacity amid surge in COVID-19 cases

https://thehill.com/homenews/coronavirus-report/506881-dozens-of-florida-hospitals-max-out-of-icu-capacity-amid-surge-in

Don't worry, Disney World is open again

[Gnurglan]

Don't worry, Disney World is open again

Yeah, Donald has been active all through this mess.

[TSC]

I think it's best just to stop reading papers/online now. They are jumping on everything to get clicks, better to just use official data/numbers and rolling averages to see what's happening

To paraphrase Starmer; 'these are the government's own official figures'.

First sentence of said article; 'The government has drawn up a list of 20 councils facing the worst coronavirus outbreaks in England...'

[[new username under construction]]

To paraphrase Starmer; 'these are the government's own official figures'.

First sentence of said article; 'The government has drawn up a list of 20 councils facing the worst coronavirus outbreaks in England...'

Well they did lock down Leicester when they didn't need to so I'm not listening to that bunch of muppets

[Crosby Nick]

Cheers mate. Symptoms are very mild. I only got tested because of my job. Being in my 20's and healthy I'm very fortunate.

Do you feel lucky? Well, do ya punk?

All the best mate, get well soon?

[TSC]

Well they did lock down Leicester when they didn't need to so I'm not listening to that bunch of muppets

Wouldn't trust em either to be fair, but (unfortunately) they are the government.

[RainbowFlick]

Even if it was just 25% capacity it would be a good start. You could force everyone to wear a mask too if needed. It seems it's OK to gather in large groups to protest against all sorts of things if you wear a mask, but not to sit and watch a game in a stadium. I suspect many clubs will soon come under financial stress too.

lol, please stop comparing protesting about basic human rights and equality to football. Ignoring the actual trivialness of football in comparison, a large proportion of those at the BLM protests would've been taking social distancing seriously before any protests, not attend if they were at risk and then were encouraged to wear masks and take precautions afterwards.

They may have caused small localised spikes but comparing it to football is very odd.

[BarryCrocker]

Newsweek
Patient Dies After Going to 'COVID Party,' Thought It Was a Hoax: Official
Eddy Rodriguez 
45 mins ago

A person in their 30s died in south Texas after attending a "COVID party," thinking it was a hoax, according to a health care official.

Jane Appleby, chief medical officer for Methodist Healthcare in San Antonio, said in a recorded statement to News 4 San Antonio that she heard a "heartbreaking" story about a 30-year-old patient who attended a COVID party.

"This is a party held by somebody diagnosed with the COVID virus and the thought is that people get together to see if the virus is real and if anyone gets infected," Appleby said. "Just before the patient died, they looked at their nurse and said 'I think I made a mistake, I thought this was a hoax, but it's not.'"

"This is just one example of a potentially avoidable death of a young member in our community and I can't imagine the loss in the family," the doctor said, adding that there are multiple patients in their 20s and 30s in critical condition due to the novel coronavirus.

Appleby said she released details of this case to show no one is "invincible" from COVID-19 that is adversely younger people.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/patient-dies-after-going-to-covid-party-thought-it-was-a-hoax-official/ar-BB16CCy8?ocid=msedgntp

You know that reads as BS to me. Not the fact that someone probably died from attending one of these parties but how the news is being reported.

Firstly, 'heard a story' and who with their last breath turns to their nurse and says "I thought this was a hoax, but it's not"

On another note President Bane has seen donning a mask while doing a photo shoot before heading off for another round of golf.



Maybe he's just being politically correct.

[ShakaHislop]

Was that particular face-mask manufactured in the US, or did he get them from the same Chinese supplier that makes some of his campaign merchandise?

[Gnurglan]

lol, please stop comparing protesting about basic human rights and equality to football. Ignoring the actual trivialness of football in comparison, a large proportion of those at the BLM protests would've been taking social distancing seriously before any protests, not attend if they were at risk and then were encouraged to wear masks and take precautions afterwards.

They may have caused small localised spikes but comparing it to football is very odd.

I replied to this yesterday. What I said had nothing to do with the message of the protests. Forget the protests for the point I'm trying to make.

We can use restaurants. It's alright to sit there if you keep a certain distance. But you can't let anyone in to a stadium restaurant? Not even into the stadium? Does that make sense to you? People won't wear masks when they eat, but not even if you put a mask on is a stadium considered safe.

Now I understand where we are. I never expected all to go back to normal immediately. I understand there's a message to be sent when things open up. But rules are clearly made up on the go. It's all very selective. Countries, cities and organisations are all making up their own rules now. That's my point.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

lol, please stop comparing protesting about basic human rights and equality to football. Ignoring the actual trivialness of football in comparison, a large proportion of those at the BLM protests would've been taking social distancing seriously before any protests, not attend if they were at risk and then were encouraged to wear masks and take precautions afterwards.

They may have caused small localised spikes but comparing it to football is very odd.

Well they are also allowing outdoor events to start up again so a football crowd at a reduced capacity stadium would be far safer than those.

[CraigDS]

Well they are also allowing outdoor events to start up again so a football crowd at a reduced capacity stadium would be far safer than those.

“Outdoor events” is a pretty wide description though.

As someone described earlier, getting in and out of rows is one of the big issues, at a lot of outdoor events you don’t have that.

[Black Bull Nova]

My guess is this football season will be played with no people, but there should be a plan and some trials. When next season begins I doubt it can be with empty stadiums.

We haven't had any indications of people being allowed back in Sweden. Nobody knows. That season has just started and there's no way clubs can survive unless they get some revenue from tickets.

I see little problem with having small crowds (youth players, families, a selected set of fans) spaced around the ground and managed with discipline. (bit like a normal Middlesbrough game)

I do see that one of the conditions is that stewards should not have duties which place them at risk. It would not bring in money but it would provide a little atmosphere.

[daindan]

I think it’s gonna be an all or nothing approach for the PL at least. Yes games are outdoors, but there too many logistical nightmares as mentioned in this thread. Are they going to have staggered toilet visits? No shouting or cheering? What happens if you live with someone in the at risk category be it from an ethnic minority or elderly/shielding? Also they have mentioned digital passports, who pays for these?. Furthermore what stops non ticket holders congregating outside looking for a spare etc?

[thejbs]

My “the worst of it is over - everyone overreacted” mate has just tested positive after his work sent him to London for two days. Says it’s awful and he regrets being so flippant.

[TSC]

My “the worst of it is over - everyone overreacted” mate has just tested positive after his work sent him to London for two days. Says it’s awful and he regrets being so flippant.

Maybe not applicable to your mate but views expressed are often informed by conspiracy type nonsense (‘hoax’, ‘5g’,...) peddled via various social media platforms.

[liverbloke]

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Now I understand where we are. I never expected all to go back to normal immediately. I understand there's a message to be sent when things open up. But rules are clearly made up on the go. It's all very selective. Countries, cities and organisations are all making up their own rules now. That's my point.

Don't you know it's all about 'the science' according to the government.

Reminds me of this

https://youtu.be/29Im23SPNok?t=10

[rob1966]

Saw Sturgeon on Marr this morning, they were talking about quarantining people travelling from England. I hope they have remembered to exclude truck drivers, otherwise they are going to starve very very quickly once lorry movements cease. Yesterday, I saw about 12 of our trucks that had crossed from England into Scotland, loads of others from England and Scottish trucks going both ways, plus the foreign trucks from the likes of Poland and Lithuania.

I was in Cumbernauld and East Kilbride yesterday, taking goods from London to the Farmfoods depot in Cumbernauld and then collecting a load from Coke which went to Dagenham last night. Its weird as they are still stricter on the 2 meter rule, have mandatory face masks in shops etc. Loads totally ignoring the rules, though, groups of old people in Hamilton services, no masks, no distancing, staff wearing masks in the shop and McNasty's and Scottish customers wandering in with nothing on. Hard to work out what you should and shouldn't do.

Roads are also full of twats in BMW's and Audi's again, although the motorway Police were out in force hunting them.

[Elmo!]

Saw Sturgeon on Marr this morning, they were talking about quarantining people travelling from England. I hope they have remembered to exclude truck drivers, otherwise they are going to starve very very quickly once lorry movements cease. Yesterday, I saw about 12 of our trucks that had crossed from England into Scotland, loads of others from England and Scottish trucks going both ways, plus the foreign trucks from the likes of Poland and Lithuania.

I was in Cumbernauld and East Kilbride yesterday, taking goods from London to the Farmfoods depot in Cumbernauld and then collecting a load from Coke which went to Dagenham last night. Its weird as they are still stricter on the 2 meter rule, have mandatory face masks in shops etc. Loads totally ignoring the rules, though, groups of old people in Hamilton services, no masks, no distancing, staff wearing masks in the shop and McNasty's and Scottish customers wandering in with nothing on. Hard to work out what you should and shouldn't do.

Roads are also full of twats in BMW's and Audi's again, although the motorway Police were out in force hunting them.

I'm fairly confident they will have thought of that. Easy enough to exempt goods vehicles - the aim is to reduce the risk as much as possible, not eliminate entirely at the cost of starvation...

Having said that Scotland produces far more food & drink per person than the rest of the UK (possibly even has a surplus?). OK, a lot of that is whisky but we can survive on it. 

[jillcwhomever]

I'm fairly confident they will have thought of that.

Having said that Scotland produces far more food & drink per person than the rest of the UK (possibly even has a surplus?). OK, a lot of that is whisky but we can survive on it. 

You are? You have more confidence in them than I do.

[Elmo!]

You are? You have more confidence in them than I do.

Am I confident tha tStrugeon has thought about goods vehicles crossing the border if we were to impose a quarantine? Absolutely.

[TepidT2O]

I'm fairly confident they will have thought of that. Easy enough to exempt goods vehicles - the aim is to reduce the risk as much as possible, not eliminate entirely at the cost of starvation...

Having said that Scotland produces far more food & drink per person than the rest of the UK (possibly even has a surplus?). OK, a lot of that is whisky but we can survive on it. 

Man cannot live on whisky, Iran Bru and short bread alone mate.

[lamad]

I replied to this yesterday. What I said had nothing to do with the message of the protests. Forget the protests for the point I'm trying to make.

We can use restaurants. It's alright to sit there if you keep a certain distance. But you can't let anyone in to a stadium restaurant? Not even into the stadium? Does that make sense to you? People won't wear masks when they eat, but not even if you put a mask on is a stadium considered safe.

Now I understand where we are. I never expected all to go back to normal immediately. I understand there's a message to be sent when things open up. But rules are clearly made up on the go. It's all very selective. Countries, cities and organisations are all making up their own rules now. That's my point.

Stadia hold tens of thousands of people, if the numbers are limited it is still thousands. They scream, sing and shout a lot. Plus: They need to get to the place, they mingle in hallways (unfortunately we are missing the technology to beam everyone into their seats and out again). It would be a huge effort to contact trace all these people if need be. We are not talking about minor numbers in restaurants, where - in the case of one evening having a super spreader around - it is feasible to "catch up" on guests.

And you keep saying this is all a mess, everyone everywhere makes up their own rules as they go along (let's ignore for a minute that experts and scientists are listened to in some countries) - so what would you do?

Governments and authorities need to decide on *something*. In this unprecedented, worldwide situation. All we read from you is complaining and questioning. Which, don't get me wrong, is your right and is, to a certain extent, a duty even; questioning things and not just being an obedient citizen. But one also needs to be aware that this is super complicated and there are no easy answers, no tested waters for this.

So please be constructive for once: What would you do? Which decisions would you make and based upon what? And please exclude the option "we all go back to normal and lock up the vulnerable", because this is not an option (not from an ethical point of view and also not because the virus harms many non vulnerable, too). And no fantasy options. Something that could be done on a practical level, in everyday lives around the globe and would work way better than what we are trying now. How would you open up after a lockdown - which you would never have had in the first place, but humor me?

[Walshy nMe®]

My “the worst of it is over - everyone overreacted” mate has just tested positive after his work sent him to London for two days. Says it’s awful and he regrets being so flippant.

That’s shit mate.

Whilst I don’t think people overreacted, the worst is over. Just look at the numbers.

We are by no means out of the woods at all, but 1 in 3900 is a small amount. That’s about 20,000 people who have it in the whole country.

By no means over, but certainly the worst is over, IMO.

[thejbs]

Maybe not applicable to your mate but views expressed are often informed by conspiracy type nonsense (‘hoax’, ‘5g’,...) peddled via various social media platforms.

Nah, he’s no conspiracy nut. On account of not having known anyone who got sick with it he thought it was maybe an OTT response. He’s happy to admit he was wrong.