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Re: Darwin Núñez (Darwin Gabriel Núñez Ribeiro)
« Reply #15120 on: Today at 03:13:06 pm »
Kinell.

I imagine Klopp and recruiters were aware of all his weaknesses and thought they can help him out with coaching. It's fair to say it has failed miserably. His link-up play has improved this season but the bottom line imo is that he's built for a transitional side rather than one facing low blocks every game.

Slot will have his work cut out for him trying to figure out how to incorporate Darwin into a potentially title winning team.

None of that is new except for the bit about against low blocks, he was still getting good quality shots off against even deep lying blocks. Also nearly all his goals are against the poorer sides.

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« Reply #15121 on: Today at 03:14:55 pm »
None of that is new except for the bit about against low blocks, he was still getting good quality shots off against even deep lying blocks. Also nearly all his goals are against the poorer sides.

His scored against City, Arsenal, United( average ), Real Madrid etc over his LFC career though?

Most of those were last season but still.

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« Reply #15122 on: Today at 03:16:11 pm »
There’s an interesting thread from 2 years ago (before we signed him) going around right now where someone did analysis on Darwin and pretty much all the flaws mentioned back then are applicable today. It’s mad how accurate it ended up being. Thread here: https://x.com/taistofcb/status/1514983927059996681?s=46

Christ. That's brutally prescient.

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« Reply #15123 on: Today at 03:17:38 pm »
There’s an interesting thread from 2 years ago (before we signed him) going around right now where someone did analysis on Darwin and pretty much all the flaws mentioned back then are applicable today. It’s mad how accurate it ended up being. Thread here: https://x.com/taistofcb/status/1514983927059996681?s=46

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« Reply #15124 on: Today at 03:18:27 pm »
There’s an interesting thread from 2 years ago (before we signed him) going around right now where someone did analysis on Darwin and pretty much all the flaws mentioned back then are applicable today. It’s mad how accurate it ended up being. Thread here: https://x.com/taistofcb/status/1514983927059996681?s=46
Wow. The guy is Nostra Damus.

One interesting bit in that thread (unfortunately the twitter link is dead now):
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Despite what his assist numbers might suggest, he isn’t a huge creator
which is what I'm thinking all season: he's getting more assists than his playstyle and skill set suggest he should be. That's why he's overperforming his xA.

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Re: Darwin Núñez (Darwin Gabriel Núñez Ribeiro)
« Reply #15125 on: Today at 03:18:42 pm »
His scored against City, Arsenal, United( average ), Real Madrid etc over his LFC career though?

Most of those were last season but still.

I meant this season. He gets chances against lots of deep blocks though.

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« Reply #15126 on: Today at 03:20:25 pm »
Kinell.

I imagine Klopp and recruiters were aware of all his weaknesses and thought they can help him out with coaching. It's fair to say it has failed miserably. His link-up play has improved this season but the bottom line imo is that he's built for a transitional side rather than one facing low blocks every game.

Slot will have his work cut out for him trying to figure out how to incorporate Darwin into a potentially title winning team.

The recruitment probably knew, which is why they didn't want him. Edwards and co leaving at the time is making more and more sense.

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« Reply #15127 on: Today at 03:22:53 pm »
Read the report.Absolute hit the nail on the head.
Shocking how he hasn't improved.
Would Edwards would have signed him ?

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« Reply #15128 on: Today at 03:25:28 pm »
Read the report.Absolute hit the nail on the head.
Shocking how he hasn't improved.
Would Edwards would have signed him ?
No. He wanted Nkunku and Lijnders and Klopp wanted Nunez.

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« Reply #15129 on: Today at 03:39:30 pm »
We are very laboured in attack though. So many touches. That hasn't helped him. Elliott and Gakpo, both technically gifted, they overplay it alot.

Slot is much more about speed than Klopp according to those speaking about him (he loves flying wingers who take on their marker in one on ones). Diaz is the only one now still doing that for us, and he's looked by far the most dangerous.

The numbers of shots we have per game can make it look like we are wasting a hatful, but alot of those chances are not clear cut at all. If you hadnt watched today's game and seen the stats (28 shots to 11) you'd have thought "how did we not win that", and yet we didn't really test the keeper much; our two goals were howlers by them (gk weak hands, and an OG via 3 West Ham players). This ponderous attacking play isn't conducive to a player like Nunez, the more swift, direct play that Slot apparently demands is.

The midfield not having enough athleticism doesn't help matters either. Our whole game needs sped up. An athletic DM, Mac and Dom advanced in the 8s, two quick wingers, that would give the like of Nunez more to work with. He may not be the answer, but he definitely isn't the answer the way we are playing now.

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« Reply #15130 on: Today at 03:41:19 pm »
Why are you arguing about him anymore this season?

It's over - anything he does the last 3 games don't matter.

Let's start with a clean slate next year and see what he can do.

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« Reply #15131 on: Today at 03:47:56 pm »
The recruitment probably knew, which is why they didn't want him. Edwards and co leaving at the time is making more and more sense.

It is an absolute tragedy that we didn't sign Nkunku. Just think of how much fun he could have had with Thiago and Bajcetic in the treatment room.
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« Reply #15132 on: Today at 03:53:49 pm »
It is an absolute tragedy that we didn't sign Nkunku. Just think of how much fun he could have had with Thiago and Bajcetic in the treatment room.

Darwin has been the better signing in hindsight out the two of course. This is more about going against recruitment's wisdom than escaping the alternative.

Besides, Nkunku is a far superior footballer to Darwin injuries aside.

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Re: Darwin Núñez (Darwin Gabriel Núñez Ribeiro)
« Reply #15133 on: Today at 03:58:16 pm »
Darwin has been the better signing in hindsight out the two of course. This is more about going against recruitment's wisdom than escaping the alternative.

Besides, Nkunku is a far superior footballer to Darwin injuries aside.

How about when the recruitment team wanted to move on from Van Dijk was that a mistake?

As for Nkunku being a better footballer that is your opinion I happen to think it is bollocks. Give us a shout when Nkunku scores a goal for his Country.
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« Reply #15134 on: Today at 04:02:24 pm »
How about when the recruitment team wanted to move on from Van Dijk was that a mistake?

As for Nkunku being a better footballer that is your opinion I happen to think it is bollocks. Give us a shout when Nkunku scores a goal for his Country.

When did they want to move on Van Dijk? That's news to me.

Fine if you disagree (somehow), but what's him scoring for his country got to do with it? Not like he's got a crazy amount of caps.

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« Reply #15135 on: Today at 04:40:22 pm »
There’s an interesting thread from 2 years ago (before we signed him) going around right now where someone did analysis on Darwin and pretty much all the flaws mentioned back then are applicable today. It’s mad how accurate it ended up being. Thread here: https://x.com/taistofcb/status/1514983927059996681?s=46

Everything there is spot on and he hasn’t really improved on any of these aspects either. That’s a crazy assessment when he says there he felt like Nunez wouldn’t improve much further

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« Reply #15136 on: Today at 04:59:45 pm »
Darwin has been the better signing in hindsight out the two of course. This is more about going against recruitment's wisdom than escaping the alternative.

Besides, Nkunku is a far superior footballer to Darwin injuries aside.

Worrying if Nkunku was the alternative  although we allegedly wanted Werner over Jota so our infallible data driven recruitment model seems to require dumb luck at times.

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Re: Darwin Núñez (Darwin Gabriel Núñez Ribeiro)
« Reply #15137 on: Today at 05:01:15 pm »
Worrying if Nkunku was the alternative  although we allegedly wanted Werner over Jota so our infallible data driven recruitment model seems to require dumb luck at times.

Nkunku didnt have a bad injury record until his last season at Leipzig (which is after when the nerds apparently recommended him) so at the time he would have still been seen as a good signing. Its basically after that summer that he has started to pick up injuries.

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« Reply #15138 on: Today at 05:09:25 pm »
Nkunku didnt have a bad injury record until his last season at Leipzig (which is after when the nerds apparently recommended him) so at the time he would have still been seen as a good signing. Its basically after that summer that he has started to pick up injuries.

I think he's nothing special anyway mind you. We dodged the werner bullet luckily. I wonder what metric he beat Jota on. Ironically not getting injured is the only one I can think of ;D