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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2720 on: May 15, 2024, 06:56:15 am »
Everyone keeps on peddling the same claim without showing any evidence for this giant terrible thing we've asked him to do for us.

Here's some data...

By the end of the 1st half of this season he wasn't even in the top 10 players for distance run across the Premier League.

His total distance run was 199.6 km

James Ward-Prowse had run 224 km for West Ham in first and the 10th most was Conor Gallagher of Chelsea at 206.3.

Even rat face at Man Utd had run more than Szobi at 213.7 km.

What exactly is he doing that is so abnormal for a football player, let alone a young fit athlete and that is somehow having a sudden and severe impact on his form? 

If it were such a serious detriment to his body it would have been picked up by the sports science team in his blood work that would have shown a slow rate of recovery.  Which in any event would have meant we'd adjust the amount of time he'd be playing or how frequently we played him.

Recall also that before he signed for us, he suffered a similarly abrupt loss of form that saw him lose his place in the RB Leipzig team for a period of time.  Was that also because they asked him to run too much?

Perhaps the answer is as simple as he's a young player that still has a lot of inconsistency in his game?

I think players coming from Germany always seem to struggle with the relentlessness of the Premier League and the English football calendar over a full season.

Is it more also that the role we ask him to do takes away from his natural game? He's was more focused on tracking back and running backwards than make things happen in the final third which he did early season. Is he more suited to play on the right in Slot's system?
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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2721 on: May 15, 2024, 07:12:59 am »
Dom's problem is we're playing him too far away from the opposition penalty area. For his previous club and for his country he  is much more involved with the build up of attacks. At his previous club he was a forward.

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2722 on: May 15, 2024, 08:42:14 am »
Still counts as running.

Only about 15% of the time mate

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2723 on: May 15, 2024, 10:59:23 am »
Only about 15% of the time mate

60% of the time, it works every time.

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2724 on: May 15, 2024, 11:52:10 am »
Same position as Gravenberch, Jones, Elliott, Konate, Nunez, Gakpo and others. Literally same position on the pitch as some as well.

Szoboszlai, similar to those above, has shown enough promise and is at an age where itís easy to see how he could improve and be a real asset in future years.

Equally heís shown enough areas for improvement that cast doubt on whether heíll reach his full potential.


Itís not unusual for a younger player to be in this position at a top club. The challenge we have is that Szoboszlai is one of a number of players in the same situation in the squad. Thereís also about 4 players who play in the same position who have the same question marks about turning potential into a consistently high performer.


Itís an interesting one for the new manager to handle. Can you carry 4 or 5 players in the same position who are at similar stages of their career arc and require consistent selection to progress?
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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2725 on: May 15, 2024, 12:17:41 pm »
Looked world class potential when he started Ö just need Slot to figure out how to get back to that .

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2726 on: May 15, 2024, 12:37:20 pm »
It's his first season anyway. Very talented players and hopefully he can show more consistently next season.

Physically,  he needs to be more willing to make tackles. That's something he could improve on.

There's something there to work with.

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2727 on: May 15, 2024, 05:43:49 pm »
From what I've read about Slot, Dom may be destined to play wide right for us rather than in midfield. My guess is that he'd thrive there.



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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2728 on: May 15, 2024, 05:46:19 pm »
60% of the time, it works every time.

Sex Panther should be Dom's new nickname.
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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2729 on: May 15, 2024, 07:51:07 pm »
Same position as Gravenberch, Jones, Elliott, Konate, Nunez, Gakpo and others. Literally same position on the pitch as some as well.

Szoboszlai, similar to those above, has shown enough promise and is at an age where itís easy to see how he could improve and be a real asset in future years.

Equally heís shown enough areas for improvement that cast doubt on whether heíll reach his full potential.


Itís not unusual for a younger player to be in this position at a top club. The challenge we have is that Szoboszlai is one of a number of players in the same situation in the squad. Thereís also about 4 players who play in the same position who have the same question marks about turning potential into a consistently high performer.


Itís an interesting one for the new manager to handle. Can you carry 4 or 5 players in the same position who are at similar stages of their career arc and require consistent selection to progress?

I donít think you can I said this at the start of the summer, would have made sense to buy another DM, rather than another young attacking midfielder in Gravenberch to compete with Jones Elliott Szoboszlai and Clark.

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2730 on: May 15, 2024, 08:06:48 pm »
I can't help but think he needs to be further forward. I agree that he plays better for country and last club, but he was (and is for country) more of a forward player. he scores for Hungary a lot, and is their shining star. it is sooo difficult that we have so many midfielders who want to get forward
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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2731 on: May 16, 2024, 01:08:32 am »
Sex Panther should be Dom's new nickname.

Great idea.  8)

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2732 on: May 16, 2024, 01:09:00 am »
Dom's problem is we're playing him too far away from the opposition penalty area. For his previous club and for his country he  is much more involved with the build up of attacks. At his previous club he was a forward.
He played consistently in the right hand half space that where he played a bunch for Liverpool offensively. Defensively he had cover Midfield more then the wing

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2733 on: May 17, 2024, 01:37:22 am »
It became very obvious last season that we needed athleticism in central midfield. That's why we signed an athletic player in Szoboszlai and played him in central midfield, not somewhere else. It's not like it's some big mystery why that became his role in our setup. I think it's worked, for the most part, though he's going through a difficult period now.
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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2734 on: June 15, 2024, 01:38:49 pm »
Szobo about to become the youngest player to captain at the Euros. A proud moment for the young man.

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2735 on: June 15, 2024, 04:03:38 pm »
Very good performance and a fantastic assist.

Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2736 on: June 15, 2024, 04:42:03 pm »
Where did he play? Seems like he much deeper in the second half

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2737 on: June 15, 2024, 04:48:39 pm »
Where did he play? Seems like he much deeper in the second half

Played all over. Struggled to do much because Hungary couldnít get the ball upfield for 60 minutes. One time he got a ball in a decent position - assist. Hard to say if he was good or not, Hungary in general are pretty crap so he immediately stands out but is also badly crippled by his team.

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2738 on: June 15, 2024, 04:52:42 pm »
Very good performance and a fantastic assist.

In what match? Surely not against the Swiss. He was one of the worst Hungarians on the pitch  ;D
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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2739 on: June 15, 2024, 05:06:02 pm »
Very good performance and a fantastic assist.

Bang average bar the assist. Not sure which game you were watching

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2740 on: June 15, 2024, 05:20:35 pm »
They were all poor on the 1st half, I'd say Dom was one of their best in the 2nd.
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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2741 on: June 15, 2024, 07:18:34 pm »

Bang average bar the assist. Not sure which game you were watching
Agree to disagree I guess.

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2742 on: June 15, 2024, 07:32:06 pm »

Don't know how you guys managed to watch the game. Couldn't watch for 10 minutes extremely boring two average teams

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2743 on: June 15, 2024, 10:04:14 pm »
Wouldn't be singling out Szobo for criticism from that Hungary game. Delivered the only bit of quality in what was a pretty turgid team performance.

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2744 on: June 16, 2024, 12:27:41 am »
Everyone keeps on peddling the same claim without showing any evidence for this giant terrible thing we've asked him to do for us.

Here's some data...

By the end of the 1st half of this season he wasn't even in the top 10 players for distance run across the Premier League.

His total distance run was 199.6 km

James Ward-Prowse had run 224 km for West Ham in first and the 10th most was Conor Gallagher of Chelsea at 206.3.

Even rat face at Man Utd had run more than Szobi at 213.7 km.

What exactly is he doing that is so abnormal for a football player, let alone a young fit athlete and that is somehow having a sudden and severe impact on his form? 

If it were such a serious detriment to his body it would have been picked up by the sports science team in his blood work that would have shown a slow rate of recovery.  Which in any event would have meant we'd adjust the amount of time he'd be playing or how frequently we played him.

Recall also that before he signed for us, he suffered a similarly abrupt loss of form that saw him lose his place in the RB Leipzig team for a period of time.  Was that also because they asked him to run too much?

Perhaps the answer is as simple as he's a young player that still has a lot of inconsistency in his game?


Kilometres aren't always equal though. Someone like Ward Prowse is doing easy kms shuffling from side to side plugging gaps in a low block. That is completely different to playing in a counter pressing side where you kms are largely high intensity sprints either pressing the opposition or high intensity recovery runs when we turnover possession.
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