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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2680 on: April 26, 2024, 06:55:32 am »
Aye aye…. Another excellent player people have totally written off.
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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2681 on: April 26, 2024, 07:55:55 am »
Put this in the Nunez thread too.

Can you do it for me please, I haven't dared to go in there for a couple of weeks 😅
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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2682 on: April 27, 2024, 08:41:55 am »
Can you do it for me please, I haven't dared to go in there for a couple of weeks 😅

Very wise.

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2683 on: April 27, 2024, 10:27:08 am »
Aye aye…. Another excellent player people have totally written off.

It's ridiculous isnt it?

He was brilliant at the start of the season when he was fresh. There was a real verve to his play, not just in the middle but out on the wing.

Think what has happened is he has been overworked and is shattered, and that impacts decision making. He has a great engine on him, we saw that at the start, but that has looked less effective as the season has worn on as he is being asked to so too much with the midfield not being athletic enough in the defensive position. Jurgen spoke of the 6 being less mobile when he said the midfielders would have to "stay close" to each other, "compact", to compensate for this deficiency, but that means asking your 8s to do even more. Make all those attacking runs but somehow get back quickly to help out the 6 so as not to leave him exposed; babysitting the 6 effectively.

Bringing in a quality DM will do wonders for the 8s in easing their workload, allowing them to have more freedom in their attacking play.

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2684 on: April 27, 2024, 02:30:55 pm »
Very poor again. Almost cost us the point.

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2685 on: April 27, 2024, 02:32:14 pm »
Sickening he didn't stop both of their goals.

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2686 on: April 27, 2024, 02:33:35 pm »
We're surely not bumping this thread for a player who came on in the 91st minute. Come on.

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2687 on: April 27, 2024, 02:36:40 pm »
We're surely not bumping this thread for a player who came on in the 91st minute. Come on.
His shit pass in the last minute (consistent theme recently) could have led to a loss. He's still making the same mistakes.

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2688 on: April 27, 2024, 02:37:04 pm »
Very poor again. Almost cost us the point.

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2689 on: April 27, 2024, 02:37:35 pm »
We're surely not bumping this thread for a player who came on in the 91st minute. Come on.

It's insane but not when you see the poster that bumped it.

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2690 on: April 27, 2024, 02:38:12 pm »
I doubt the next management staff will keep him.

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2691 on: April 27, 2024, 02:39:13 pm »
Thought it was an odd time to bring him on. Wasted time when we were on top.

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2692 on: April 27, 2024, 02:43:51 pm »
I doubt the next management staff will keep him.

I see this being said about a lot of players. But is it realistic that another club will offer the sums that the club would want from him? Does Szoboszlai himself even want to go somewhere else, like I would imagine a lot of moves would be a downgrade for him in like every way possible.

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2693 on: April 27, 2024, 02:44:52 pm »
Almost an Aspas moment, don’t get why we bothered to bring him on so late

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2694 on: April 27, 2024, 02:46:06 pm »
Lol.
The pass he made at end was suicidal. Mac was very angry with him. He's been making the same mistakes time and time again regardless of whether he starts or comes on.

That's not good enough for a midfielder as they are the basics.

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2695 on: April 27, 2024, 02:46:44 pm »
his passes bobble about 5 times before they reach the player

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2696 on: April 27, 2024, 02:56:52 pm »
Slot loves quick and short passes. Szobo probably needs to spend extra time on his passing this summer.

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2697 on: April 27, 2024, 03:03:59 pm »
He'll be better next season. He has had a stark introduction to a PL season where we are competing on 4 fronts while having major injuries. He'll recover by next season.


I doubt Hungary will go deep this summer. Especially if he is expected to carry them. He'll get some rest and hopefully not be overplayed next season.
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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2698 on: April 27, 2024, 03:48:36 pm »
He has had quite the season arc. Best player on the team the first 5 matches of the season
Now a 85th min sub

Hopefully a summer rest, new manager, and a clear head and we start again

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2699 on: April 28, 2024, 12:39:38 pm »
Where did it all go wrong  :sad
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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2700 on: April 28, 2024, 01:20:12 pm »
Just needs to find consistency there's a great player in there.

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2701 on: April 28, 2024, 10:16:10 pm »
Just needs to find consistency there's a great player in there.

As frustrating as he's been for a long time now, there's definitely a player in there. You don't have the first couple of months he had without having a huge amount of ability. Not quite sure what's happened to him since February particularly - I don't think it's as simple as saying he's been overworked - but I'd back him to be a good player for us for years to come.

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2702 on: April 28, 2024, 10:20:14 pm »
Hopefully he won’t be running around trying to cover the full backs next season and we can actually see the Szobo from the start of this season. The drop in form has been staggering but he’s also got through some amount of running and covering the ground to make up for others lack of athleticism.

The ideal situation would be for him to go away with Hungary, have a good tournament and come back full of confidence. Needs to cut out the loose passes as well.

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2703 on: April 29, 2024, 03:15:23 am »
I hope that Hungary does poorly and exit early. Then he can come back here hungry and concentrate on rebuilding his career under Slot.
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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2704 on: April 29, 2024, 05:49:44 am »
I hope that Hungary does poorly and exit early. Then he can come back here hungry and concentrate on rebuilding his career under Slot.
You want him to leave Hungary and come back hungary?  ;D
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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2705 on: April 29, 2024, 08:04:59 am »
I hope that Hungary does poorly and exit early. Then he can come back here hungry and concentrate on rebuilding his career under Slot.

He's their captain and one of their main sources of goals, he won't want to do poorly and I don't think we want him in shit form going into a new season either.

It is bullshit how much football these guys play though.
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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2706 on: April 29, 2024, 11:48:23 am »
You want him to leave Hungary and come back hungary?  ;D

He's gonna be starving by next season ;D
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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2707 on: April 29, 2024, 11:57:45 am »
He's their captain and one of their main sources of goals, he won't want to do poorly and I don't think we want him in shit form going into a new season either.

It is bullshit how much football these guys play though.


Is it better that he comes back a spent force like he has come back from Hungary's qualifiers?

There is some similarities between Mo and Dom's international breaks. Over-reliance of their NTs on them, burn-out and injuries when they come back. Endo came back from the Asia Cup without much gas in the tank too.

Also, we want Dom back quickly this summer so he can a full preseason with Arne. If he goes deep in Germany, he might find Harvey or someone else in his way.
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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2708 on: April 30, 2024, 10:32:46 am »
Hopefully he won’t be running around trying to cover the full backs next season and we can actually see the Szobo from the start of this season. The drop in form has been staggering but he’s also got through some amount of running and covering the ground to make up for others lack of athleticism.

The ideal situation would be for him to go away with Hungary, have a good tournament and come back full of confidence. Needs to cut out the loose passes as well.

Everyone keeps on peddling the same claim without showing any evidence for this giant terrible thing we've asked him to do for us.

Here's some data...

By the end of the 1st half of this season he wasn't even in the top 10 players for distance run across the Premier League.

His total distance run was 199.6 km

James Ward-Prowse had run 224 km for West Ham in first and the 10th most was Conor Gallagher of Chelsea at 206.3.

Even rat face at Man Utd had run more than Szobi at 213.7 km.

What exactly is he doing that is so abnormal for a football player, let alone a young fit athlete and that is somehow having a sudden and severe impact on his form? 

If it were such a serious detriment to his body it would have been picked up by the sports science team in his blood work that would have shown a slow rate of recovery.  Which in any event would have meant we'd adjust the amount of time he'd be playing or how frequently we played him.

Recall also that before he signed for us, he suffered a similarly abrupt loss of form that saw him lose his place in the RB Leipzig team for a period of time.  Was that also because they asked him to run too much?

Perhaps the answer is as simple as he's a young player that still has a lot of inconsistency in his game?
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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2709 on: April 30, 2024, 11:48:32 am »
Everyone keeps on peddling the same claim without showing any evidence for this giant terrible thing we've asked him to do for us.

Here's some data...

By the end of the 1st half of this season he wasn't even in the top 10 players for distance run across the Premier League.

His total distance run was 199.6 km

James Ward-Prowse had run 224 km for West Ham in first and the 10th most was Conor Gallagher of Chelsea at 206.3.

Even rat face at Man Utd had run more than Szobi at 213.7 km.

What exactly is he doing that is so abnormal for a football player, let alone a young fit athlete and that is somehow having a sudden and severe impact on his form? 

If it were such a serious detriment to his body it would have been picked up by the sports science team in his blood work that would have shown a slow rate of recovery.  Which in any event would have meant we'd adjust the amount of time he'd be playing or how frequently we played him.

Recall also that before he signed for us, he suffered a similarly abrupt loss of form that saw him lose his place in the RB Leipzig team for a period of time.  Was that also because they asked him to run too much?

Perhaps the answer is as simple as he's a young player that still has a lot of inconsistency in his game?

United has a 12% minus possession % than Liverpool, West ham is 20% below.

You run more without the ball then you do when in possession.

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2710 on: April 30, 2024, 11:54:06 am »
United has a 12% minus possession % than Liverpool, West ham is 20% below.

You run more without the ball then you do when in possession.


But the point is still valid right, that he is doing less running than those players mentioned therefore shouldnt be as tired?

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2711 on: April 30, 2024, 12:00:14 pm »
Is it better that he comes back a spent force like he has come back from Hungary's qualifiers?

There is some similarities between Mo and Dom's international breaks. Over-reliance of their NTs on them, burn-out and injuries when they come back. Endo came back from the Asia Cup without much gas in the tank too.

Also, we want Dom back quickly this summer so he can a full preseason with Arne. If he goes deep in Germany, he might find Harvey or someone else in his way.

Agree with this. Our elite players, national team captains etc, don't get any rest throughout the season. I think this might be a tricky season coming. Copa and Euros in the summer plus pre-season tours on the way. We'll be half-knackered before we kick a ball at all. Of course FIFA x UEFA will only make this worse as time goes by. More Joels please.

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2712 on: May 14, 2024, 11:06:19 am »
Big season for him the next one.

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2713 on: May 14, 2024, 01:34:09 pm »
He needs to find himself again.

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2714 on: May 14, 2024, 03:11:26 pm »
Unusual drop off in form from Szoboszlai. I do think there is something going on behind the scenes - especially given his comments earlier in the season about loneliness etc.

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2715 on: May 14, 2024, 03:12:33 pm »
He'll be brilliant in the Euroes, we'll be so excited to see him back in pre season.
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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2716 on: May 14, 2024, 04:25:24 pm »
Unusual drop off in form from Szoboszlai. I do think there is something going on behind the scenes - especially given his comments earlier in the season about loneliness etc.

He's quite a good-looking man. I'd wager there are a few around who would help him with loneliness.



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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2717 on: May 14, 2024, 04:27:06 pm »
He's quite a good-looking man. I'd wager there are a few around who would help him with loneliness.



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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2718 on: May 14, 2024, 07:20:22 pm »
One thing I will say about Szoboszlai despite his recent poor run of form, is that he has an almost telepathic understanding with Salah and that's been the case for most of the season. Szobo knows exactly where to make his run, and Salah knows exactly where to play the pass. It's a constant.

Wish he'd scored that dink shortly after he came on, would have been good for him.

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Re: Welcome Dominik Szoboszlai
« Reply #2719 on: May 15, 2024, 06:03:22 am »
United has a 12% minus possession % than Liverpool, West ham is 20% below.

You run more without the ball then you do when in possession.

Still counts as running.