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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30040 on: June 24, 2023, 11:14:56 am »
Just a reminder, they bought all the shiny new toys they could last season, changed manager, and finished 12th.

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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30041 on: June 24, 2023, 11:43:13 am »
So top 8 will be a massive struggle based on you deciding we just aren't going to sign players?

You call us a team of crocks that need numbers, by all accounts it appears we are getting those numbers and the players leaving that we do desperately needed are by in large the players that get injured so often.

Of the 6 players going, they have played a total of 3073 minutes in the league last year. By comparison our one signing so far had 2886 minutes in the season - in the league one player we have signed played a collective 2 games less in minutes than the entirety of the 6 leaving us. Further of those 6 players, Milner and Firmino take up 70% of the minutes.

Yeah we need to sign players, and it appears we will, but you are declaring we won't make top 8 because we lost so many players and not getting many in, well the players that have gone barely contributed beyond 2 of them and even then as fringe players. You are talking as if we are losing 6 integral players who are always fit when it is far from the truth

You are also making this decision that we won't get more players in on Saturday June 24yh, a full 7 weeks before the season starts, hell weeks before preseason starts.

By all accounts? Perhaps I know more about what’s going on. We won’t be bringing in THOSE NUMBERS i am afraid. End it there.

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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30042 on: June 24, 2023, 11:58:35 am »
By all accounts? Perhaps I know more about what’s going on. We won’t be bringing in THOSE NUMBERS i am afraid. End it there.

Perhaps you do know more, I don't know your credentials, all I know is most of our journalists are saying 2 more midfielders and a CB.

Let me know then how many are we getting in and will this mean Chelsea finish well ahead of us?

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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30043 on: June 24, 2023, 12:00:47 pm »
By all accounts? Perhaps I know more about what’s going on. We won’t be bringing in THOSE NUMBERS i am afraid. End it there.

Interesting that you don't reveal any of your sources to "prove" you accusations.
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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30044 on: June 24, 2023, 12:02:37 pm »
Why would I? Time will.

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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30045 on: June 24, 2023, 12:04:25 pm »
Why would I? Time will.

Then I remain sceptical you have the sources. It's nothing new people being negative these days, some wear it as their badge on all things.
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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30046 on: June 24, 2023, 12:18:34 pm »
It's nothing new people being negative these days, some wear it as their badge on all things.

Depressing, isn't it Jill? :(
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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30047 on: June 24, 2023, 12:19:22 pm »
Why would I? Time will.

That's honestly a rather adversarial response, if you have actual information I am sure everyone would be interested to hear (even if you don't say the source just what you were told).

Similarly if it is just your opinion I am sure people will be alright with that as well and discuss it (obviously with a bit of lighthearted pisstaking as you would find in a forum)

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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30048 on: June 24, 2023, 12:24:48 pm »
And its certainly not just about Chelsea. Everyone around us will strengthen. Not even thinking about the Slavers and Arsenal. We won’t.

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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30049 on: June 24, 2023, 12:28:34 pm »
Let’s see who is “whining” during the season eh.
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I’ve plenty links to the clubs playing and backroom staff as many on here know thank you very much. Fair enough, I admire your optimism. But you’re absolute ostriches if you think this squad, even with 2 or 3 new, “cut price” players with potential get us anywhere close

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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30050 on: June 24, 2023, 03:10:52 pm »
Then I remain sceptical you have the sources. It's nothing new people being negative these days, some wear it as their badge on all things.

Stick it out Jill. It's always heartening to see people like you and others responding to doom mongers so we know not everyone has given up!
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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30051 on: June 24, 2023, 08:04:43 pm »
I’ve plenty links to the clubs playing and backroom staff as many on here know thank you very much.

Fair enough, I admire your optimism. But you’re absolute ostriches if you think this squad, even with 2 or 3 new, “cut price” players with potential get us anywhere close to silverware.


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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30052 on: June 24, 2023, 08:09:16 pm »
Bye.  :wave

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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30053 on: June 24, 2023, 08:11:41 pm »
I’ve plenty links to the clubs playing and backroom staff as many on here know thank you very much.

Fair enough, I admire your optimism. But you’re absolute ostriches if you think this squad, even with 2 or 3 new, “cut price” players with potential get us anywhere close to silverware.


See ya’s  :wave

Well I didn't know, so that's why I asked in as civil a way as possible if you would be happy to share what you know as I am sure people would be interested.

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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30054 on: June 24, 2023, 11:37:31 pm »
Let’s see who is “whining” during the season eh.
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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30055 on: June 25, 2023, 07:15:20 am »
I’ve plenty links to the clubs playing and backroom staff as many on here know thank you very much.

Fair enough, I admire your optimism. But you’re absolute ostriches if you think this squad, even with 2 or 3 new, “cut price” players with potential get us anywhere close to silverware.


See ya’s  :wave


Think you need to calm down.

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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30056 on: June 25, 2023, 12:58:48 pm »
I’ve plenty links to the clubs playing and backroom staff as many on here know thank you very much.

Fair enough, I admire your optimism. But you’re absolute ostriches if you think this squad, even with 2 or 3 new, “cut price” players with potential get us anywhere close to silverware.


See ya’s  :wave

Go and shit the bed.  :wave

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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30057 on: June 25, 2023, 03:14:42 pm »
Go and shit the bed.  :wave

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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30058 on: June 28, 2023, 08:39:39 pm »
having just flicked on the bbc footy page and see yet another chelsea player fucking off, mendy, are chelsea selling absolutely every fucking player they told us was good? i have no idea what they're going to be left with but it's gonna be a team of names i've never even heard of by the looks of it
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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30059 on: June 28, 2023, 08:44:17 pm »
having just flicked on the bbc footy page and see yet another chelsea player fucking off, mendy, are chelsea selling absolutely every fucking player they told us was good? i have no idea what they're going to be left with but it's gonna be a team of names i've never even heard of by the looks of it

I'm hoping Boehly buys them a third Fofana to complete his collection.

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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30060 on: June 30, 2023, 07:54:03 pm »
Completed a signing off another dud.
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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30061 on: June 30, 2023, 08:28:35 pm »
Another 8 year contract, I thought that was being stopped?
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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30062 on: June 30, 2023, 08:33:41 pm »
Another 8 year contract, I thought that was being stopped?

My understanding is that clubs can still hand out 8 year contracts if they choose to but for the purposes of FFP they won't be able to spread the transfer fee over 8 years in the accounts - the maximum will be 5 years.

So if you sign a player for £40m you can put it on the books as £8m per year over 5 years but not as £5m per year over 8 years.

Link to an article in The Times explaining this: https://archive.is/zCS3n
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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30063 on: June 30, 2023, 08:37:40 pm »
Completed a signing off another dud.

They are playing real life Foodball Manager. Nothing about Nicolas Jackson suggests that he is worth €37 million ...

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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30064 on: June 30, 2023, 08:38:35 pm »
Ah OK, that makes sense. Still can't believe they're handing out such mad contracts!
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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30065 on: June 30, 2023, 08:44:58 pm »
This thread seems to offer facts that contradict. So a direct question. The UEFA ruling on the 5-year amortization of the players contracts comes in on July 1, and will not be applied retroactively. Doesn't that mean that all of Chelsea contracts will be accepted as-is and the players' contracts will be amortized in 7-8 years, whatever they signed for?

Chelsea seem to be getting as many as possible through the door before July 1. 
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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30066 on: June 30, 2023, 08:53:10 pm »
This thread seems to offer facts that contradict. So a direct question. The UEFA ruling on the 5-year amortization of the players contracts comes in on July 1, and will not be applied retroactively. Doesn't that mean that all of Chelsea contracts will be accepted as-is and the players' contracts will be amortized in 7-8 years, whatever they signed for?

Chelsea seem to be getting as many as possible through the door before July 1. 

Well, they won't get international clearance before July 1st for any of their latest deals ...

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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30067 on: June 30, 2023, 08:59:27 pm »
This thread seems to offer facts that contradict. So a direct question. The UEFA ruling on the 5-year amortization of the players contracts comes in on July 1, and will not be applied retroactively. Doesn't that mean that all of Chelsea contracts will be accepted as-is and the players' contracts will be amortized in 7-8 years, whatever they signed for?

Chelsea seem to be getting as many as possible through the door before July 1. 

International window doesn't open until 1st July, so any transfers made in this window (Nkunku, Jackson) will be under the new rules.

The signings made last summer/in January won't be subject to the 5 year limit.

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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30068 on: June 30, 2023, 09:01:03 pm »
Gotcha, thanks.
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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30069 on: July 3, 2023, 08:50:31 pm »
Must admit I was surprised to see the fee’s being bandied about for Christian Pulisic, there’s talk of him going to Italy or France for as little as £20m.
Now I know he has blown a bit hot and cold at Chelsea but on his day the lad is almost De Bruyne-like, he has that ability to breeze past players like they are not even there, he’s still only 24 as well.
I know we don’t need a wide attacker but at that price and given his potentially high cieling im genuinely surprised we haven’t put a sneaky offer in.

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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30070 on: July 3, 2023, 09:14:08 pm »
Does this thread need a 'Poch related' title now?
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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30071 on: July 3, 2023, 09:15:04 pm »
Must admit I was surprised to see the fee’s being bandied about for Christian Pulisic, there’s talk of him going to Italy or France for as little as £20m.
Now I know he has blown a bit hot and cold at Chelsea but on his day the lad is almost De Bruyne-like, he has that ability to breeze past players like they are not even there, he’s still only 24 as well.
I know we don’t need a wide attacker but at that price and given his potentially high cieling im genuinely surprised we haven’t put a sneaky offer in.
He's injury prone and he's stagnated a bit.

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« Reply #30072 on: July 3, 2023, 09:25:35 pm »
He's injury prone and he's stagnated a bit.
If he can't stay fit for a Chelsea team who periodically take a six months off from playing football then he'd have no hope of staying fit for us.

He's a very good player when he's fit and firing.

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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30073 on: July 3, 2023, 10:20:10 pm »
Must admit I was surprised to see the fee’s being bandied about for Christian Pulisic, there’s talk of him going to Italy or France for as little as £20m.
Now I know he has blown a bit hot and cold at Chelsea but on his day the lad is almost De Bruyne-like, he has that ability to breeze past players like they are not even there, he’s still only 24 as well.
I know we don’t need a wide attacker but at that price and given his potentially high cieling im genuinely surprised we haven’t put a sneaky offer in.
Left side attacker is not the need. He need go a spot where he going for his development. Also need Injury Prone. Basically Ac Milan wants to 20ish and Chelsea wants 30 for a player who want to leave on the last year of the deal

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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30074 on: July 3, 2023, 10:38:54 pm »
Must admit I was surprised to see the fee’s being bandied about for Christian Pulisic, there’s talk of him going to Italy or France for as little as £20m.
Now I know he has blown a bit hot and cold at Chelsea but on his day the lad is almost De Bruyne-like, he has that ability to breeze past players like they are not even there, he’s still only 24 as well.
I know we don’t need a wide attacker but at that price and given his potentially high cieling im genuinely surprised we haven’t put a sneaky offer in.

Even Thiago is like a Terminator compared to Pulisic ...

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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30075 on: July 3, 2023, 11:44:42 pm »
I hear what you lads are saying but at 24 he’s got the best years of his career ahead of him and if Jurgen did manage to get the best out of him we really would have something special on our hands. He always plays well when he turns out for the yanks so maybe his inconsistency in terms of form may be down to his environment.
That’s another thing as well he’d help increase our fan base in the states, £20m is sod all these days. I’m surprised our under valued by the market mob haven’t already had him down on their list.

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« Reply #30076 on: July 3, 2023, 11:46:12 pm »
I hear what you lads are saying but at 24 he’s got the best years of his career ahead of him and if Jurgen did manage to get the best out of him we really would have something special on our hands. He always plays well when he turns out for the yanks so maybe his inconsistency in terms of form may be down to his environment.
That’s another thing as well he’d help increase our fan base in the states, £20m is sod all these days. I’m surprised our under valued by the market mob haven’t already had him down on their list.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/christian-pulisic/verletzungen/spieler/315779

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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30077 on: July 3, 2023, 11:54:41 pm »
I hear what you lads are saying but at 24 he’s got the best years of his career ahead of him and if Jurgen did manage to get the best out of him we really would have something special on our hands. He always plays well when he turns out for the yanks so maybe his inconsistency in terms of form may be down to his environment.
That’s another thing as well he’d help increase our fan base in the states, £20m is sod all these days. I’m surprised our under valued by the market mob haven’t already had him down on their list.

Yeah, the fee is low... but he plays on the left and we've already got 68 players for that spot... and he's made of poppadoms.

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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30078 on: July 4, 2023, 10:24:25 am »
Must admit I was surprised to see the fee’s being bandied about for Christian Pulisic, there’s talk of him going to Italy or France for as little as £20m.
Now I know he has blown a bit hot and cold at Chelsea but on his day the lad is almost De Bruyne-like, he has that ability to breeze past players like they are not even there, he’s still only 24 as well.
I know we don’t need a wide attacker but at that price and given his potentially high cieling im genuinely surprised we haven’t put a sneaky offer in.

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Re: Chelsea FC - the Prodigal Messiah Returns
« Reply #30079 on: July 4, 2023, 12:57:48 pm »
Very definition of all fart no shit. One of the most overrated players I’ve seen for a long time. He just does nothing. Good dribbler but so underwhelming. He mostly does well for the US because most of their opponents are joiners, bakers and bank managers. What did he do at the World Cup?
what a ridiculous bloody comment.