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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7160 on: March 31, 2024, 04:05:13 pm »
FFS, just play simple passes at the end.

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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7161 on: March 31, 2024, 04:05:41 pm »
Sorry for Joe, but he was painful to watch today.
Hes mostly in the way in the midfield, and lost an endless row of passes.
Trent inverting is a threat with his incredible passing, but Gomez doesnt have that quality

Yeah him at left back has become a bit of an issue on the ball. I trust him defensively though.

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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7162 on: March 31, 2024, 05:04:19 pm »
Does a yeomans job but when inverting we ask him to be a skilled weaver.

Solid enough today minus a few brain farts at the end.
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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7163 on: March 31, 2024, 06:11:12 pm »
Does a yeomans job but when inverting we ask him to be a skilled weaver.

Solid enough today minus a few brain farts at the end.

Yes very much looks a center back playing midfield when he inverts, hopefully Robbo is back and Gomez can go back to his main positions.

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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7164 on: March 31, 2024, 10:14:34 pm »
I love the bones of the lad.  today he started to look a bit mentally tired.  I thought the same of Bradley to be honest.

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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7165 on: March 31, 2024, 10:34:29 pm »
gomez is starting the big games ahead of robertson this season for me
even when robbo comes back

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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7166 on: April 1, 2024, 12:17:13 am »
Player of the season. Give him the gold Samba now.
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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7167 on: April 1, 2024, 02:30:37 am »
Player of the season. Give him the gold Samba now.
He's due a goal in THIS campaign. Then we give him the gold Samba.
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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7168 on: April 4, 2024, 01:24:10 pm »
He's due a goal in THIS campaign. Then we give him the gold Samba.
I'm worried half the team will be sent off after Joe scores, especially if
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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7169 on: April 4, 2024, 01:29:12 pm »
I want him to score asap to get the comms - all of the bastards are doing it now - to STFU with the smirky "never scored in his career" comments each time he has a go, or even gets into shooting range.

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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7170 on: April 4, 2024, 01:31:53 pm »
Why doesn’t he make greater use of his physique and try to score a header on a corner rather than shooting from daft places and angles?

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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7171 on: April 4, 2024, 01:33:36 pm »
Why doesn’t he make greater use of his physique and try to score a header on a corner rather than shooting from daft places and angles?
he stays back for most corners to use his speed to counter quick breaks.

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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7172 on: April 4, 2024, 01:42:15 pm »
he stays back for most corners to use his speed to counter quick breaks.

I know he does, he’s pretty much always done that, probably because he’s average in the air and not the best at attacking them. Carragher was the same but Carragher wasn’t shooting from 20-30 yards every week.

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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7173 on: April 4, 2024, 02:11:27 pm »
I know he does, he’s pretty much always done that, probably because he’s average in the air and not the best at attacking them. Carragher was the same but Carragher wasn’t shooting from 20-30 yards every week.
the crowd didn't do the stupid "shooooooot" thing at Carra every game.

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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7174 on: April 4, 2024, 03:00:45 pm »
I want him to score asap to get the comms - all of the bastards are doing it now - to STFU with the smirky "never scored in his career" comments each time he has a go, or even gets into shooting range.

Conversely, they probably wouldn't do it if he wasn't hitting pointless shots from range when there are better alternatives.

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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7175 on: April 4, 2024, 03:34:29 pm »
the crowd didn't do the stupid "shooooooot" thing at Carra every game.

I know, because it was probably the lowest % play on the field. As is Joe shooting. If he wants to score so bad do it like any other centre half and get on the end of a cross into the box. The crowd need to stop with the shouts but he also needs to stop wasting attacks with shite efforts.

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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7176 on: April 4, 2024, 03:44:44 pm »
Joe scores tonight. If he plays. Possibly.
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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7177 on: April 4, 2024, 03:47:35 pm »
I know, because it was probably the lowest % play on the field. As is Joe shooting. If he wants to score so bad do it like any other centre half and get on the end of a cross into the box. The crowd need to stop with the shouts but he also needs to stop wasting attacks with shite efforts.

It's the crowd screaming at him, which makes him do it though. It's not helping anyone least of all Joe. People need to leave him alone and realise he will score eventually without people throwing attention onto him.
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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7178 on: April 4, 2024, 03:54:42 pm »
All a bit overblown this. He's had a couple of games where he's had two shots, most games he has one shot or no shots on goal. Which is when he plays at full back, and is in line with how our other full backs play. Certainly not coming across that he's so desperate to score that he's flying shots in from everywhere, just that when he plays at full back it occasionally opens up for him and he very occasionally has a crack at goal. Not much deeper than that.

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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7179 on: April 4, 2024, 03:58:49 pm »
Maybe there has been a couple games where he has but I don't think he particularly has more shots than Robbo. People just noticing it because commentators always banging on about the goal thing this season.

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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7180 on: April 4, 2024, 04:19:46 pm »
Maybe there has been a couple games where he has but I don't think he particularly has more shots than Robbo. People just noticing it because commentators always banging on about the goal thing this season.

Not true. I was at the Luton game and there were a lot of groans when he smashed one into the Anny road end, no commentators required. To be fair I think the groans were aimed at the people shouting "shoooot!" as much as they were at Joe.

He doesn't take a lot of shots but when he does it's often when we need a goal and there are better options available. It's not a big deal but I do wish he'd save his efforts for when we're 4-0 up.

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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7181 on: April 4, 2024, 09:31:14 pm »
Stop inverting him. It does nothing for him or us.

Would give him a game off Sunday and start Robertson.
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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7182 on: April 4, 2024, 09:39:34 pm »
He should never start at LB against a low block again. We literally have 2 fit LBs.

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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7183 on: April 4, 2024, 09:41:47 pm »
He has quite ok technique for a defender, but hes not a midfielder and nothing will change that. Hes constantly taking extra touches and passing the player rather than the space, and it slows us down a lot.
Gomez is not weird, its Trent who is a unique player.

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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7184 on: April 4, 2024, 09:44:36 pm »
His constant shooting when anywhere near the goal is starting to become so annoying.

The one at the start of the second half was quite frankly horrific, on the half turn, on his left foot with two players free wide left.
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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7185 on: April 4, 2024, 09:45:30 pm »
His constant shooting when anywhere near the goal is starting to become so annoying.

The one at the start of the second half was quite frankly horrific, on the half turn, on his left foot with two players free wide left.

Yep, that’s the shit when we’ve won the league or are cruising 4-0 not at 1-1.

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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7186 on: April 4, 2024, 09:48:50 pm »
Jeez it's like the old days everyone piling into the Gomez thread. Let's remember why he's been playing on the left because of injuries and inconsistent performances of other players. I am all in favour of Robbo playing but besides his injuries he's also been inconsistent which has been the reason why we've had to try Gomez somewhere else.
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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7187 on: April 4, 2024, 09:50:59 pm »
Jeez it's like the old days everyone piling into the Gomez thread. Let's remember why he's been playing on the left because of injuries and inconsistent performances of other players. I am all in favour of Robbo playing but besides his injuries he's also been inconsistent which has been the reason why we've had to try Gomez somewhere else.

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Most of us are just saying he's not much use inverting. I don't think that's controversial, is it? He's not.

Good player, given us a lot, don't think I'd be starting him at left back though.
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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7188 on: April 4, 2024, 09:56:04 pm »
Jill I'd swear you're his mam :D

Most of us are just saying he's not much use inverting. I don't think that's controversial, is it? He's not.

Good player, given us a lot, don't think I'd be starting him at left back though.

He's not a left back is he? He has been forced to fill in due to injuries and inconsistent performances in other players. He has done a perfectly good job, all things considered.
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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7189 on: April 4, 2024, 09:56:45 pm »
He's not a left back is he? He has been forced to fill in due to injuries and inconsistent performances in other players. He has done a perfectly good job, all things considered.

No, he isn't a left back. He did fine. I don't think we've helped him tactically by making him invert. Doesn't play to his strengths at all. Hence let's stop doing it.
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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7190 on: April 4, 2024, 09:57:06 pm »
Think it's got to the point where he needs to be fined every time he shoots now - that goes for all of our left backs to be honest

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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7191 on: April 4, 2024, 09:57:23 pm »
Considering where he was after a near career ending injury, the lad is a beast. He will be here for another 6 plus years as puts his heart on the line for the team. Has repaid his £3.5m multiple times as must be one of the bargain buys of the past decade.
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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7192 on: April 4, 2024, 09:58:23 pm »
Jeez it's like the old days everyone piling into the Gomez thread. Let's remember why he's been playing on the left because of injuries and inconsistent performances of other players. I am all in favour of Robbo playing but besides his injuries he's also been inconsistent which has been the reason why we've had to try Gomez somewhere else.

All anyone has said is stop shooting (he should) and he’s not a left back (he isn’t) where is the pile on?

He’s be fantastic filling in, but he has limitations when out position as you’d expect.

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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7193 on: April 4, 2024, 10:00:14 pm »
He's not a left back is he? He has been forced to fill in due to injuries and inconsistent performances in other players. He has done a perfectly good job, all things considered.
The "criticism" is nothing personal. Natural LBs give us more width against low blocks.

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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7194 on: April 4, 2024, 10:34:35 pm »
Unfortunately, we will continue to invert him until Trent gets back, he is the extra player in midfield. He's not comfortable there, but that's his job, and Joe's been doing his job well. More players coming back will give us more options.
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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7195 on: April 4, 2024, 10:37:06 pm »
Unfortunately, we will continue to invert him until Trent gets back, he is the extra player in midfield. He's not comfortable there, but that's his job, and Joe's been doing his job well. More players coming back will give us more options.

It’d be easier for him if he were doing it from RB. If we’re committed to inverting a FB (it’s basically a counter attack preventative measure isn’t it) then arguably Robbo needs to be playing right now. Although it’d be sad to see Bradley lose his place.

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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7196 on: April 4, 2024, 10:42:03 pm »
It’d be easier for him if he were doing it from RB. If we’re committed to inverting a FB (it’s basically a counter attack preventative measure isn’t it) then arguably Robbo needs to be playing right now. Although it’d be sad to see Bradley lose his place.

Bradley has been looking a bit tired and is maybe due a rest.
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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7197 on: April 4, 2024, 11:17:58 pm »
It’d be easier for him if he were doing it from RB. If we’re committed to inverting a FB (it’s basically a counter attack preventative measure isn’t it) then arguably Robbo needs to be playing right now. Although it’d be sad to see Bradley lose his place.
Agreed. That's what I meant by having more options. And Bradley can be preserved for the EL, there are still plenty of games to share the playing time.
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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7198 on: April 4, 2024, 11:18:38 pm »
Bradley has been looking a bit tired and is maybe due a rest.
He covered the most distance from our players today (second after a Sheffield player).
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Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #7199 on: April 5, 2024, 12:02:01 am »
He has been brilliant for us when we have needed him most, but having him invert from left back and seemingly be the free man who we play through and player most likely to shoot from 20 yards has been frustrating to watch.

There is a good chance he starts at rb this weekend with Robbo lb, but I am looking forward to Trent and Robbo getting back into the team now