Topic: The Alternative Premier League Table 2021-22

[BoRed]

Ah yes.  Thanks.  I've missed one out.  Can anyone see which one it is from the third graphic?  It'll be one of the white fixtures.

Brighton away, I think. It finished 1-1.

[Prof]

Brighton away, I think. It finished 1-1.

Thanks.  I'll add it to the next update

[gazzalfc]

So lets see those lines...

[Prof]

[Samie]

Hello mate, I'd like to see the Man City line nose dive faster than Wazza at a Bingo night.

[Prof]

Hello mate, I'd like to see the Man City line nose dive faster than Wazza at a Bingo night.

[SpionBob]

I am beginning to like those trend lines more and more. In fact I feel quite optimistic at present !!

[CanuckYNWA]

Looks very nice all of a sudden

Also Man Utd position in the table clearly isnt as promising as it looks. Id be Curious where Wolves sit right now in comparison

[farawayred]

We won't win the league this season. We flat-lined, we're dead... And I don't see a revival this month...

[KurtVerbose]

Our match with them at the emptyad is looking more and more important.

They win and we're hoping for them to slip up again.

A draw and we close to within one point of them. We've been through that before only to be disappointed.

A win for us and the distance between us reverses.

A slip up from either side before that match and it looks less important.

Our recent form there has been won 1, drawn 2, lost 1. However, that loss was in July 2020 when we'd already walked the premier league and had nothing to play for. That's not a bad record.

Let's hope Pep treats it as a cup final and over thinks it.

[Dull Tools]

Our match with them at the emptyad is looking more and more important.

They win and we're hoping for them to slip up again.

A draw and we close to within one point of them. We've been through that before only to be disappointed.

A win for us and the distance between us reverses.

A slip up from either side before that match and it looks less important.

Our recent form there has been won 1, drawn 2, lost 1. However, that loss was in July 2020 when we'd already walked the premier league and had nothing to play for. That's not a bad record.

Let's hope Pep treats it as a cup final and over thinks it.

We have 6 league games before then including some tough games. That game could be irrelevant.

We need to beat Leeds and then we have a cup final. Win the next game and we put pressure on.

[KurtVerbose]

That game could be irrelevant.

Hence...

A slip up from either side before that match and it looks less important.

[Dr Stu-Pid]

Over the last 38 games (a full season) we now have 1 point fewer than City.

Over the last 35 games we have 2 points more than City.

Over the last 30 games we have 3 points more than City.

According to most pundits this City side is one of the best teams of all time.

So I guess that we must be pretty good as well then?

This is the 38 game current form for each team broken down into 5 game segments (with one 3 game segment at the top).  The closer to the bottom and the darker the colour the more recent (and so more relevant) the games are.

So we have 15 points from our last 5 games, 8 points from the 5 games before that, etc, etc

[Asam]

Over the last 38 games (a full season) we now have 1 point fewer than City.

Over the last 35 games we have 2 points more than City.

Over the last 30 games we have 3 points more than City.

According to most pundits this City side is one of the best teams of all time.

So I guess that we must be pretty good as well then?

City have won 4/5 of the league titles, that consistency and the level they’ve reached is why they get the respect, we are very unfortunate in that we would be dominating any other era

[Knight]

The difference between the league table and this table is extraordinary in Utd's case. They could be about to drop off a bit of a cliff in league terms when they start getting more difficult games.

... Oh I just realised they've played 3 more games than both Arsenal and Spurs.

[Dr Stu-Pid]

Mini update following games for us and Spurs, and I also realized that I had missed off Man Utd's win at Brentford from the earlier table, so that is now corrected.

This is the 38 game current form for each team broken down into 5 game segments (with one 3 game segment at the top).  The closer to the bottom and the darker the colour the more recent (and so more relevant) the games are.

So we have 15 points from our last 5 games, 8 points from the 5 games before that, etc, etc

[Ray K]

Mini update following games for us and Spurs, and I also realized that I had missed off Man Utd's win at Brentford from the earlier table, so that is now corrected.

Hat's off to Leicester, they're incredibly consistent.

[dutchkop]

thanks for this Prof.. I am really looking forward to the next update ... with both us and City on 26 games

[courty61]

What are Wolves and West Ham out of interest? If any can work it out? Just so we see the race for top 4.

Does anyone do a relegation one at all? Just so I can get my hopes up that the toffees go down :-)

[PoetryInMotion]

City have won 4/5 of the league titles, that consistency and the level they’ve reached is why they get the respect, we are very unfortunate in that we would be dominating any other era

They won in 17/18, 18/19 by 1 point, and last season. If you count 16/17 as well, that's 3 out of 5 titles - not sure where you are getting 4/5 titles thing?

During the same period, we have won 1 title, 1 CL, 1 Club World Cup - ignoring domestic Cups, that's almost as good as them. If City are one of the greatest English teams, so are we.

[Sharado]

thanks for this Prof.. I am really looking forward to the next update ... with both us and City on 26 games

Think our line will remain flat? Leeds at home would have been par 3 I think.

[BoRed]

What are Wolves and West Ham out of interest? If any can work it out? Just so we see the race for top 4.

Does anyone do a relegation one at all? Just so I can get my hopes up that the toffees go down :-)

It's not prof's APLT, but as I mentioned before I'm doing a similar model using decimals, with different par values for top 4 and relegation.

The top four battle as it stands:

Arsenal -0.84
Tottenham -3.37
Wolves -3.69
Man Utd -4.17
West Ham -7.14

Relegation:

Brentford 0.83
Leeds 0.71
Burnley 0.17
Everton -0.86
Newcastle -1.03
Norwich -4.89
Watford -6.21

In short, there's definitely a decent chance they go down.

[farawayred]

That flat line... 

[johnny74]

Our fixture list looks extremely tough. City's a little easier. If Klopp puts all his effort into league game preparation we could win it. But he has to realise that winning the league whilst crashing out of the other comps is a worthwhile risk.

Pep will want the CL almost as much as he wants the league if not more. We have an advantage here in that the CL is not our priority (or shouldn't be).

[Prof]

[KurtVerbose]

Looking forward to the update.

[farawayred]

Meh, flat lines don't excite me...

If I read this right, there are three 1-par games for City (Wolves, Leeds and West Ham) and four 1-par games for us (the postponed Arsenal, City, Villa and Newcastle). This puts so much more emphasis on the City game even if we beat Arsenal...

[courty61]

It's not prof's APLT, but as I mentioned before I'm doing a similar model using decimals, with different par values for top 4 and relegation.

The top four battle as it stands:

Arsenal -0.84
Tottenham -3.37
Wolves -3.69
Man Utd -4.17
West Ham -7.14

Relegation:

Brentford 0.83
Leeds 0.71
Burnley 0.17
Everton -0.86
Newcastle -1.03
Norwich -4.89
Watford -6.21

In short, there's definitely a decent chance they go down.

Cheers. Any update on the relegation battle after Spurs' win last night

[BoRed]

Cheers. Any update on the relegation battle after Spurs' win last night

With pleasure.

Newcastle 2.27
Brentford 1.17
Leeds -0.58
Everton -1.25
Burnley -1.27
Watford -6.30
Norwich -7.51

[Prof]

Looking forward to the update.

Sorry. I'll try and do this tomorrow. Been a busy week.

[KurtVerbose]

Sorry. I'll try and do this tomorrow. Been a busy week.

No worries Prof. I know what it'll look like it's just nice seeing it in all its majesty.

[courty61]

With pleasure.

Newcastle 2.27
Brentford 1.17
Leeds -0.58
Everton -1.25
Burnley -1.27
Watford -6.30
Norwich -7.51

Thanks. On a knife edge for the toffees then

[Prof]

[KurtVerbose]

Thanks Prof.

Both Arsenal and Spurs would seriously have to screw up to let Utd back in the race for top four. I can see it of Spurs, but since their awful start Arsenal have a bit of consistency.

[gazzalfc]

We're now above city in the 'Last 38 PL form' table aren't we?

[Ray K]

We're now above city in the 'Last 38 PL form' table aren't we?

Yes, 92 to 88 per Andrew Beasley from this parish.

It's a pity our fixture list turns so bad now, we've virtually no chance of maintaining that lovely straight line.

[BassTunedToRed]

Yes, 92 to 88 per Andrew Beasley from this parish.

It's a pity our fixture list turns so bad now, we've virtually no chance of maintaining that lovely straight line.

Yeah that's right. We went above them 92-90 with our win at Brighton and then City dropped two points last night

[killer-heels]

Yeah that's right. We went above them 92-90 with our win at Brighton and then City dropped two points last night

We are absolutely amazing.

It was good whilst it lasted. Even Mo feels that, which is why he wants out.

[Grobbelrevell]

Was Arsenal par 1?

[BoRed]

Was Arsenal par 1?

Yes.