Topic: European Cup Final 1/6/19. LFC v THFC

[WhereAngelsPlay]

They are literally one win away from winning it. They are capable of beating us. We are favorites for sure, but it's a 60-40 match. Spurs are a great side. Hats off to them for making it here. Unfortunately for them they are standing in our way to redemption.

The fuck they are.

[Floydy]

the spurs fans are going to be completely out numbered in and outside the ground, and we will take over the place, lets hope this impacts the result on the pitch.

[trimore]

They are literally one win away from winning it. They are capable of beating us. We are favorites for sure, but it's a 60-40 match. Spurs are a great side. Hats off to them for making it here. Unfortunately for them they are standing in our way to redemption.

Of course, I just said it would be unprecedented and shouldn't be compared to past underdogs. Unprecedented things do happen.

[LFC when it suits]

The fuck they are.

You don't get the the CL final without being a great side.

[PhaseOfPlay]

You don't get the the CL final without being a great side.

Of course you do. Or are you saying that Monaco of 2004 were a great side?

[deFacto please, you bastards]

You don't get the the CL final without being a great side.

We weren't a great side in 2005.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

You don't get the the CL final without being a great side.

Your logic is flawed.




And don't say,well that wasn't a CL final,it was a European final.

[LFC when it suits]

Your logic is flawed.




And don't say,well that wasn't a CL final,it was a European final.

You answered it yourself. It's not a CL final. You have to be a great side to get to the CL final. It's not the Europa League filled with middle table teams

[WhereAngelsPlay]

I'm not saying that Spurs aren't a threat or that they've not done brilliant to get to the final,they're just not a great side & I would be more nervous if Ajax hadn't self destructed.

[LFC when it suits]

We weren't a great side in 2005.

We won the UEFA CUp and went to the CL quarter final in the years preceding and reached another CL final in 2007 and finished 3rd on 82 point the following season, so yes we were a great side.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

You answered it yourself. It's not a CL final. You have to be a great side to get to the CL final. It's not the Europa League filled with middle table teams

Says you.

[Jack The Lad]

We won the UEFA CUp and went to the CL quarter final in the years preceding and reached another CL final in 2007 and finished 3rd on 82 point the following season, so yes we were a great side.

We were that great a side Everton finished above us and we were about 39 points behind Chelsea. We had a good cup run in the Champions League, but we were far from a great team overall.

[LFC when it suits]

Of course you do. Or are you saying that Monaco of 2004 were a great side?

Why were they not a great side. One of the top teams in a top 5 league. You don't get to the CL final without being a great side because you have to consistently get past the best teams in Europe to get there over two legs.

[LFC when it suits]

We were that great a side Everton finished above us and we were about 39 points behind Chelsea. We had a good cup run in the Champions League, but we were far from a great team overall.

We beat some of the best teams in Europe over 2 legs. We were inconsistent. But our top level was good enough to match any team in Europe as we proved. CL is where you prove how good you are where you have to not only beat the best teams, but do so under the most pressure.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

We won the UEFA CUp and went to the CL quarter final in the years preceding and reached another CL final in 2007 and finished 3rd on 82 point the following season, so yes we were a great side.

That was in 2007, we are talking about 2005. So no were weren't a great side. We were great defensively but as a team we were anything but great. We improved massively in 2007.

[johna999]

Having a look at their forums.....
1. They fear Trippier playing. They'd prefer aurier but he has been out for ages and maybe back Sunday. They have even suggested having sisoko or sanchez RB to avoid Trippier. Most think he will play
2. They are not as confident about their defence. Not as good as last year and they think best to attack us and try and ping our full backs back
3. Injured players. Winks and kane will be fit and they think they have to play especially winks to stop us breaking through their midfield and have more control. I think playing both is a risk as they won't be match sharp etc. They say kane is often a slow starter when back from injury
4. They bang on about the second half of the Anfield game where they 'dominated' but they don't take into account Fabinho and that we had to win that day and they didn't.
5. They are convinced their name is in the cup. And that kane will get the winner, best forward in the world etc
6. They think they are very slow starters and think we will be ahead at half time and they will then pick us off in second half as their more technical players get more space and we tire. As we are just a pressing high energy team and after their 3 week break they will be fitter than us second half
7. They think most likely team will be loris, trip, 2 Belgium, rose, sisoko, winks Ericsson, alli, moura, kane. Moura instead of son due to his semi heroics

[LFC when it suits]

Says you.

Monaco weren't a mid table team. They competed for the title in their domestic league that season and the season before.

[rafathegaffa83]

Monaco weren't a mid table team. They competed for the title in their domestic league that season and the season before.

They also knocked out Real Madrid and Chelsea en route to the final. They had plenty of decent players: Morientes, Evra,  Rothen,  Giuly, Squillaci, Adebayor etc.

[CHOPPER]

Stop being quilts

[wampa1]

You don't get the the CL final without being a great side.

I'd argue we weren't a great side in 2005...

[cashmere pringle]

Oh, but I just thought you might want something fine
Made of silver or of golden
Either from the mountains of Madrid
Or from the coast of Barcelona

its is written boys, Dylan already wrote it.

[andy07]

the spurs fans are going to be completely out numbered in and outside the ground, and we will take over the place, lets hope this impacts the result on the pitch.

Not sure they will be massively.  This is their first ever final.  I am sure they will take 25-30000 with or without tickets.  What we have is global fans prepared to pay whatever it costs to be there.  In some ways I wish it was City.   They would struggle to sell their allocation.

[ALPH1217]

We were that great a side Everton finished above us and we were about 39 points behind Chelsea. We had a good cup run in the Champions League, but we were far from a great team overall.

Spot on. We won that CL fair and square but that was not a great side - for the reasons listed above.

[SweetSilverSevens]

People need to understand this. All the underdog sides that won or came very close in the CL were primarily defensive beasts. Ajax in 95, Porto under Mourinho, us under Rafa, Chelsea's Mourinho core in 2012, Simeone's nearly men in 2014.

While Spurs have been consistently shipping goals all season in the PL, domestic cups, CL groups stages and knockout stages. They are here almost solely on their offence and if they win it would be an unprecedented achievement for an offensively driven underdog.

Spot on! Have no idea why people have created a false narrative that Spurs have some kind of supreme defence, who are going to dog out a 1-0 win

We're far more capable of keeping a clean sheet against them than they are against us. In fact, I can't see them keeping a clean sheet at all to be honest. Not against our attacking trio.

We scored 4 against Barcelona whilst keeping a clean sheet against Messi and Suarez... let that sink it.

[Asam]

The fuck they are.

Great is stretching it, they are a very good team, capable of beating anyone and one a few sides that can play at a similar level of intensity for 90 minutes, very powerful.

This will be our toughest game of the season, they will be playing like their lives depend on it

[Magix]

Having a look at their forums.....
1. They fear Trippier playing. They'd prefer aurier but he has been out for ages and maybe back Sunday. They have even suggested having sisoko or sanchez RB to avoid Trippier. Most think he will play
2. They are not as confident about their defence. Not as good as last year and they think best to attack us and try and ping our full backs back
3. Injured players. Winks and kane will be fit and they think they have to play especially winks to stop us breaking through their midfield and have more control. I think playing both is a risk as they won't be match sharp etc. They say kane is often a slow starter when back from injury
4. They bang on about the second half of the Anfield game where they 'dominated' but they don't take into account Fabinho and that we had to win that day and they didn't.
5. They are convinced their name is in the cup. And that kane will get the winner, best forward in the world etc
6. They think they are very slow starters and think we will be ahead at half time and they will then pick us off in second half as their more technical players get more space and we tire. As we are just a pressing high energy team and after their 3 week break they will be fitter than us second half
7. They think most likely team will be loris, trip, 2 Belgium, rose, sisoko, winks Ericsson, alli, moura, kane. Moura instead of son due to his semi heroics

I find this perspective interesting. They probably think this way because they've Eriksen in midfield, but I think they're discounting how technical and creative our fullbacks actually are, while not considering Fabinho as our 6 adds another technical level to our side - we're stronger pressers on and off the ball than before.

[Mr_Shane]

We have not kept a clean sheet against them for quite sometime allbeit with the aid of penalties. We have added Fabinho. He has only played against them like for 30 minutes I am more confident we can keep them out. Lucas Moura is going to be a pain though

They have also not kept a clean sheet against us for us some time. I am confident they will not be able to stop us from scoring.

[SweetSilverSevens]

Having a look at their forums.....
1. They fear Trippier playing. They'd prefer aurier but he has been out for ages and maybe back Sunday. They have even suggested having sisoko or sanchez RB to avoid Trippier. Most think he will play
2. They are not as confident about their defence. Not as good as last year and they think best to attack us and try and ping our full backs back
3. Injured players. Winks and kane will be fit and they think they have to play especially winks to stop us breaking through their midfield and have more control. I think playing both is a risk as they won't be match sharp etc. They say kane is often a slow starter when back from injury
4. They bang on about the second half of the Anfield game where they 'dominated' but they don't take into account Fabinho and that we had to win that day and they didn't.
5. They are convinced their name is in the cup. And that kane will get the winner, best forward in the world etc
6. They think they are very slow starters and think we will be ahead at half time and they will then pick us off in second half as their more technical players get more space and we tire. As we are just a pressing high energy team and after their 3 week break they will be fitter than us second half
7. They think most likely team will be loris, trip, 2 Belgium, rose, sisoko, winks Ericsson, alli, moura, kane. Moura instead of son due to his semi heroics

We are stronger in the second half than our opponents this season. We have most number of goals from substitutes and in the last 15 minutes of league games.

In the recent league match with Tottenham we weren't even at our best form. We were stuttering in Feb/March time and Spurs came having nothing to lose. We had to win and they were content with a draw (or just a respectable performance). We also had a poor first half in the next league game against Southampton.

The Alderwireld own-goal helped Salah pick up his goalscoring form in the next few games, and Keita/Henderson found some form after scoring goals against Southampton, and we haven't looked back since. This run of form has culminated in the two performances against Barcelona.

In that sense, I don't think the spurs league game is that relevant in relation to our current form compared to then, but of course Klopp will look at what problems we came up against then. However, we would've looked at it in the immediate aftermath of the match, and a lot of those improvements have probably already been made.

[PhilMahon]

Would have preferred Ajax, but reckon they’d have preferred Barca. Good to have a couple of weeks to rest and prepare so hopefully we’re firing from the get go.

[Koplass]

My dad has just been taken to the Hospice. His birthday would have been 1st June.

So sorry mate. Hope we win it for him.

[Rainbow Laces]

I think it'll be a tougher game than many here expect. Spurs are not at our level but in one match can they make something happen? Absolutely. It's been suggested in some posts but I certainly feel we'll need to go in at half time with a lead as both teams tend to grow as the game goes on. If we get in front we can manage the game and hopefully control its direction. Both teams have a lot of spirit and fight, both teams can score goals - I think ultimately it might come down to one thing that is a huge difference between us and that is recent experience in major finals. We've essentially had to cracks at it and know what not to do and what needs to be done. Hopefully that'll be enough to bring big ears back to Anfield to meet his five little brothers.

[lfcrule6times]

Fucking hell I'm nervous. And its over 3 weeks away.

[Mr_Shane]

Fucking hell I'm nervous. And its over 3 weeks away.

Not nervous about sunday?

[lfcrule6times]

Not nervous about sunday?

 it's out of our hands so I'm feeling a bit more relaxed about that.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

I can't wait to see Trippier mark Virgil on corners.

[trimore]

Spot on! Have no idea why people have created a false narrative that Spurs have some kind of supreme defence, who are going to dog out a 1-0 win

We're far more capable of keeping a clean sheet against them than they are against us. In fact, I can't see them keeping a clean sheet at all to be honest. Not against our attacking trio.

We scored 4 against Barcelona whilst keeping a clean sheet against Messi and Suarez... let that sink it.

We'll score against them almost surely. The best thing Spurs have going for them is that it's football in 2019 where every game including a massive cup final can become a high scoring shootout, which they would love.

For me the best thing we have going for us is our familiarity with Spurs. Underdogs can usually win by pulling some surprise, but this team is well aware of any and all of Spurs many tricks. We'll be ready.

[Red Beret]

Might be an unpopular opinion but perhaps this should be locked until after Sunday?  We have another match to think about long before this one.

[Mr_Shane]

I seriously cannot even remember the last time we failed to score against them

[duvva 💅]

I seriously cannot even remember the last time we failed to score against them

Klopp’s first ever game in charge?

[rawcusk8]

Might be an unpopular opinion but perhaps this should be locked until after Sunday?  We have another match to think about long before this one.

I wonder what kind of fines Klopp should give to the players that are in this thread and not thinking about the Wolves game