Topic: PL: West Ham 2 vs 2 Liverpool Bowen 43’Robbo 48’ og (tit) 65’ Antonio 77’

[Gili Gulu]

Some heavy arguing going on between the team after conceding the goals. I’m sure it’ll come out in years to come what caused the past 6 weeks to turn into a clowns car.

Well there's the documentary, so may well be quite a bit sooner than that.

Personally I think the club should bin it and pay off whoever we've sold it to.

[Eeyore]

Some heavy arguing going on between the team after conceding the goals. I’m sure it’ll come out in years to come what caused the past 6 weeks to turn into a clowns car.

It is a pretty normal occurrence when a great leader is leaving. Klopp demanded unity. With him leaving the things that pissed players off about  each other have probably come to the fore. We also lost a lot of leaders last summer in Milner, Henderson, Fabinho plus Firmino who often acted as the peacemaker.

[RedG13]

Played good enough to win and didnt. Klopp having insanely unlucky season leaving at Dortmund and terrible variance at the end of the Liverpool is crazy

[William Regal]

It's just the continuation of an incredible pattern, 28 attempts on goal and our 2 scorers were a scruffy finish from a defender (who I thought was fantastic btw) and another goal that deflected off 3 defenders.

If Jota had played this run in then I think our fortunes would have been completely different, our finishing has been fucking woeful.  I'll excuse Diaz from that though, the man has given everything.

Btw how was paqueta's foul on Mac Allister at the very minimum not a yellow card, that was a fucking horrific refereeing performance from start to finish.

[stockdam]

Can anyone somehow explain why the referee blew when Gakpo was about to put the ball into the net?

Did the referee wave for an advantage then changed his mind when he thought the keeper wasn’t fit to play on? That’s about as close I can get to a plausible answer. However there was no foul and it looks like the keeper threw the ball down and then stopped to pull up his socks. I’d love to hear a decent answer as I am completely stumped and it just looks like the referee made it up on the sport.

[BarryCrocker]

Can anyone somehow explain why the referee blew when Gakpo was about to put the ball into the net?

Did the referee wave for an advantage then changed his mind when he thought the keeper wasn’t fit to play on? That’s about as close I can get to a plausible answer. However there was no foul and it looks like the keeper threw the ball down and then stopped to pull up his socks. I’d love to hear a decent answer as I am completely stumped and it just looks like the referee made it up on the sport.

If the referee was playing advantage then both of his arms would point forwards towards our goal and he clearly didn’t do that. Will we get an explanation?

Made up.

[jckliew]

Aww, man. Gakpo, just kick it in the fucking net and then let Taylor explain why he blew up. No goal kick. No foul. No free kick. No encroachment.

Dumbo Taylor would probably have shown Gapko the yellow. 

[coolbyrne]

Just take the booking and leave the ref with a headache.  With only a few games left what difference would a booking make?

This idea that Gakpo kicking it into the next would've put the ref in a position where he had to explain himself is a beautiful pipe dream. They haven't bothered explaining themselves in any meaningful way all season. Why would it start now? Suddenly, Gakpo kicking it into the net is supposed to leave the ref in a difficult position? Want to see the position Gakpo scoring would put the ref in?

Gakpo scores. Gets a yellow.

Anthony Taylor: I clearly blew the whistle; I gave him a yellow for time-wasting.

Media would spend their coverage on this incident by highlighting the fact that Taylor did indeed blow the whistle and that Gakpo kicked the ball after the whistle. Yellow card justified. If anyone thinks this would've gotten anyone to talk about anything that led up to that moment, I don't know what to tell you, because that is never, ever going to happen, especially if Liverpool are the ones getting shafted for it.

[Son of Spion]

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Thanks for that interesting, in-depth reply, Yosser. Nice post.

[RedG13]

Can anyone somehow explain why the referee blew when Gakpo was about to put the ball into the net?

Did the referee wave for an advantage then changed his mind when he thought the keeper wasn’t fit to play on? That’s about as close I can get to a plausible answer. However there was no foul and it looks like the keeper threw the ball down and then stopped to pull up his socks. I’d love to hear a decent answer as I am completely stumped and it just looks like the referee made it up on the sport.

No idea what happened there unless Taylor called for an advantage there

[Eeyore]

No idea what happened there unless Taylor called for an advantage there

He couldn't have played advantage though because he restarted the game with a drop ball. If it was a case of playing advantage and then bringing it back for a free kick then the restart would have been a free kick.

From the restart Taylor drops the ball and Areoloa picks the ball up.

He was 60 yards away when Areola initially assumed he had a free kick and rolled the ball a good ten yards away from where he caught the ball. Areola is in the process of taking the free kick when Gakpop realises it isn't a dead ball situation. Gakpo then waves at the assistant and asks if he can challenge for the ball and there is no flag.

Areola has made a silly mistake and then Taylor decides to intervene. He stops play, asks for the physios to come on, and then tells Areola to go to the floor despite Areola trying to attempt to play the ball twice.

It is corrupt as fuck.

[GreatEx]

Yep, if he was paying advantage then there was no reason to call on the physio. Total garbage yet again because of a reflex that miraculously only kicks in when Liverpool or Wolves are the wronged party. No corruption!!

[RedKenWah]

Aww, man. Gakpo, just kick it in the fucking net and then let Taylor explain why he blew up. No goal kick. No foul. No free kick. No encroachment.

Exactly that, stick it in the net and let the ref explain how he’d disallow it but would find it difficult as there was no foul in the previous play.

[thejbs]

Exactly that, stick it in the net and let the ref explain how he’d disallow it but would find it difficult as there was no foul in the previous play.

It would’ve been after the whistle, so that would override everything. You cannot score after the whistle has been blown to halt play. VAR couldn’t even intervene.

I still wish he’d done it because it would’ve drawn more attention to it. Taylor likely would’ve booked him too.

[spider-neil]

Rival fans saying the ref can stop play at any time over an injury? What injury? Tit is standing when Taylor blows his whistle. There is a video doing the rounds of Taylor telling Tit to get on the floor. Fuck this fucking league. My motivation for watching this bullshit on almost a weekly basis is making me seriously give up football.

[redtel]

Gakpo was too nice. He stopped over the ball and looked the Lino for guidance on whether he could play it.

Imagine Suarez in this situation. He was desperate for any goal. He would have rolled it into the open net, ran after it, picked it up, and then back to the centre circle where he would have placed it ready for a West Ham restart.

Left the referee to pick up the pieces. Yellow card no problem if given.

[JRed]

Gakpo was too nice. He stopped over the ball and looked the Lino for guidance on whether he could play it.

Imagine Suarez in this situation. He was desperate for any goal. He would have rolled it into the open net, ran after it, picked it up, and then back to the centre circle where he would have placed it ready for a West Ham restart.

Left the referee to pick up the pieces. Yellow card no problem if given.

Definitely. Someone on here called Gakpo a ‘Gentle Giant’. That’s what he is, needs to develop a killer instinct.

[spider-neil]

Having watched the reply as he is running up to the ball he hears the whistle. You can actually hear the whistle. It would take Gakpo being very single-minded to slam the ball into an empty net after that. I wish he had but it is what it is.

[red1977]

Areola was time wasting. He had been doing it since it went to 2-2. First of all pretending he was injured from gathering the ball. He then thought he had a free kick (He didnt), he then threw the ball way forward and started messing with his socks. Areola has confused the ref and the ref has blown to stop the farce. Unfortunatley he has added to it, and I swear as he marches back down the pitch he is wondering what he is going to do, before telling Areola he needs treatment. Correct Decision was to leave the whistle and let Gakpo score, because Areola has now finished the injury charade and is in the taking his time with the free kick he hasnt been given charade.

[spider-neil]

Areola was time wasting. He had been doing it since it went to 2-2. First of all pretending he was injured from gathering the ball. He then thought he had a free kick (He didnt), he then threw the ball way forward and started messing with his socks. Areola has confused the ref and the ref has blown to stop the farce. Unfortunatley he has added to it, and I swear as he marches back down the pitch he is wondering what he is going to do, before telling Areola he needs treatment. Correct Decision was to leave the whistle and let Gakpo score, because Areola has now finished the injury charade and is in the taking his time with the free kick he hasnt been given charade.

The ref directly impacts us taking the lead.

[rushyman]

Areola was time wasting. He had been doing it since it went to 2-2. First of all pretending he was injured from gathering the ball. He then thought he had a free kick (He didnt), he then threw the ball way forward and started messing with his socks. Areola has confused the ref and the ref has blown to stop the farce. Unfortunatley he has added to it, and I swear as he marches back down the pitch he is wondering what he is going to do, before telling Areola he needs treatment. Correct Decision was to leave the whistle and let Gakpo score, because Areola has now finished the injury charade and is in the taking his time with the free kick he hasnt been given charade.

Forcing the keeper to play act to save him is the most despicable refereeing I've seen in years

And he'll get excused and backed up somehow. Fuck knows how but that mekon Gallagher will try

[red1977]

The ref directly impacts us taking the lead.

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Sure. He fucks up by blowing for an injury that Areola hasn't got or is claiming to have got. Areola's time wasting and the refs mistake, Liverpool lose out.

[rushyman]

Gakpo didnt continue because he probably thought he would be booked. 

He blew the whistle before he got there

[stockdam]

Areola was time wasting. He had been doing it since it went to 2-2. First of all pretending he was injured from gathering the ball. He then thought he had a free kick (He didnt), he then threw the ball way forward and started messing with his socks. Areola has confused the ref and the ref has blown to stop the farce. Unfortunatley he has added to it, and I swear as he marches back down the pitch he is wondering what he is going to do, before telling Areola he needs treatment. Correct Decision was to leave the whistle and let Gakpo score, because Areola has now finished the injury charade and is in the taking his time with the free kick he hasnt been given charade.

Referee should go on a “Rules Awareness Course” just like a “Speed Awareness Course” for drivers.

If the referee thought that the keeper was wasting time then why not book him and why not let play continue as the ball was in play?

It’s time they introduced a rule whereby clubs could ask for explanations and audio. I guess we’ll never know what went on but if there’s a good explanation then PGMOL should clarify it but they won’t.

[spider-neil]

If the keeper was on the floor I could at least understand the ref blowing but the keeper was standing. The ref realised that he didn't previously blow to stop play and the ball was still live so blew to rectify the situation. What a fucking c*nt.

[red mongoose]

Forcing the keeper to play act to save him is the most despicable refereeing I've seen in years

And he'll get excused and backed up somehow. Fuck knows how but that mekon Gallagher will try

It's barking fucking mad. The hubris to not just think you'll get away with such a massive fuck-up, but to know it with absolute certainty, is very much in keeping with the mentality of bent cops in bent cop dramas. C*nts, the lot of them.

[rossipersempre]

'There are skills which are interchangeable between working in the prison service and refereeing,' said Taylor, who worked in Strangeways HMP in Manchester before becoming a full-time professional referee.

'It's not about red and yellow cards, it's about stopping things happening as much as you can. Trying to be proactive.

'Working in a prison meant I needed a lot of communication and management qualities to deal with daily situations.

'I specialised in control and restrain techniques, educating staff on the best ways to control violent individuals and difficult situations that arise."

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Hold on, isn't the job of a referee to be reactive to what happens on the pitch, not proactive, prejudging everything and seeking to justify it afterwards?

[DonkeyWan]

This point pretty much gaurantees CL today (unless Spurs win their remaining games 5,6-0 each).

[killer-heels]

This point pretty much gaurantees CL today (unless Spurs win their remaining games 5,6-0 each).

Yep, although amazingly some people were worrying about it. One more win guarantees third as well.

[Crosby Nick]

This point pretty much gaurantees CL today (unless Spurs win their remaining games 5,6-0 each).

10 or 12 goal swing if they do that against us.